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Amplified & accelerated by those (social and other media) who boil the certain, exaggerated claims down even more into quick clips & memes with max "gotcha" power but zero nuance and context.
2022 CPC Leadership Discussion: Et tu Redeux
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Brad Sallows
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I would add "mis-stated" to "A&A". It's certainly in the power of established commercial "legacy" media to conduct themselves like a profession, if they should ever choose to do so.
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As with most things its political. In this case both the US and Mexico have levied tariffs against Chinese EV's, steel, and other products. The Canadian government is afraid that if it doesn't do something Canada could be used to as a dumping ground for Chinese products which, in turn, could end up in the US.
Also part of them trying to clumsily change the narrative on this government.
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And since those are censored...
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So 9 Aug, Poilievre says Canada should put tariffs on Chinese EVs and raw materials used to make those EVs.
Three days later, 12 Aug, Trudeau says Poilievre call to tariff Chinese EVs and materials is wrong. Well, technically, he calls it “baloney.” (
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Today… (27 Aug…18 days after Poilievre says to do it and 15 days after Trudeau says they won’t do it…and probably a few hours after the White House tells Trudeau to do it…
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Looks like the Liberals have decided Poilievre’s idea of putting a tariff on Chinese EVs is finally a good idea…
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Three days later, 12 Aug, Trudeau says Poilievre call to tariff Chinese EVs and materials is wrong. Well, technically, he calls it “baloney.” (
)Today… (27 Aug…18 days after Poilievre says to do it and 15 days after Trudeau says they won’t do it…and probably a few hours after the White House tells Trudeau to do it…
)Looks like the Liberals have decided Poilievre’s idea of putting a tariff on Chinese EVs is finally a good idea…
One-on-one with Minister Champagne
Vassy Kapelos speaks to Minister François-Philippe Champagne on the government's announced tariffs on Chinese EVs.
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In the LPC's defense, they at least came around to their senses eventually...So 9 Aug, Poilievre says Canada should put tariffs on Chinese EVs and raw materials used to make those EVs.
Three days later, 12 Aug, Trudeau says Poilievre call to tariff Chinese EVs and materials is wrong. Well, technically, he calls it “baloney.” (
Today… (27 Aug…18 days after Poilievre says to do it and 15 days after Trudeau says they won’t do it…and probably a few hours after the White House tells Trudeau to do it…
Looks like the Liberals have decided Poilievre’s idea of putting a tariff on Chinese EVs is finally a good idea…
One-on-one with Minister Champagne
Vassy Kapelos speaks to Minister François-Philippe Champagne on the government's announced tariffs on Chinese EVs.
To an extent. I think they are flailing a bit and they likely also faced some US pressure as well.
That being said at least it’s done.
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When a government changes its mind on something and comes around to a sensible position, I firmly believe they should be praised. Even if they tried all the worst options first...
Reward behavior you want, and making a smart choice is something I want from governments.
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No thanks. I wouldn't want to be lead by anyone that has judgement so bad they try all the worst options first.
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Trudeau sounds like Harris. Stealing the competitions ideas.So 9 Aug, Poilievre says Canada should put tariffs on Chinese EVs and raw materials used to make those EVs.
Three days later, 12 Aug, Trudeau says Poilievre call to tariff Chinese EVs and materials is wrong. Well, technically, he calls it “baloney.” (
Today… (27 Aug…18 days after Poilievre says to do it and 15 days after Trudeau says they won’t do it…and probably a few hours after the White House tells Trudeau to do it…
Looks like the Liberals have decided Poilievre’s idea of putting a tariff on Chinese EVs is finally a good idea…
One-on-one with Minister Champagne
Vassy Kapelos speaks to Minister François-Philippe Champagne on the government's announced tariffs on Chinese EVs.
Probably why PP won't put his full policy on the table.
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That puts a lot of faith in any single organization always getting the optimal solution the very first time without any need of course correction. Admitting mistakes and changing course to improve aren’t necessarily bad things. Too often and always the same mistakes? That’s why there are elections.
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He won’t put his full policy on the table until after the November *2024 election down south. I wouldn’t either. Have to see how Team Red is going to play the US outcome game in 2025. It would be foolish to bring anything out before America decides which way it’s going, lest one lock themselves to playing the game one way then have the rules change after the ball is kicked (down south).
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How many chances?
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Supposed to be - BUT Paul Martin said in the election campaign when Harper trashed him at the ballot box:
"The minority will not be dictated to by the majority"
Paul Martin said this. I recall it quite well.
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