2022 CPC Leadership Discussion: Et tu Redeux

[QV]

Maybe Carney isn't CBC preferred LPC leader ?

Or maybe they've now learned of things they fear would completely discredit them (with their remaining support) when it comes out if they go full Team Carney.

It is strange because in my glances at Canadian media, it seemed Carney was practically already crowned the PM these past weeks.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

I think CBC is looking to stay afloat however the hell they can. If that's moving towards the populist narrative closer to PP and the CPC... they're going to do it. Whomever the LPC leader becomes, may not factor in heavily on their new direction.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Geoff Russ: EKOS boss Frank Graves' ill advised threat to keep Pierre Poilievre from winning

The longtime Liberal supporter crosses a line

nationalpost.com

Geoff Russ: EKOS boss Frank Graves' ill advised threat to keep Pierre Poilievre from winning - NP -21 Apr 22​

Extract: “Pierre Poilievre is an acolyte of authoritarian populism. This is never healthy. You are on notice. Going to make sure you are never going to lead my country. I don’t make idle threats,” Graves wrote on Twitter last week.

This was just one of many similar statements made by Graves, most of which have since been deleted.

“These are my personal opinions which do not affect the data I collect,” says Graves. “I should express them more temperately, or keep them to myself.” Graves denies his personal bias seeps into EKOS’s polling data. “You wouldn’t be in business for the amount of time I’ve been, and been as successful as I am, if you torqued your data,” he says.

Yeah, but they do affect his polls. One only need to look at the disparity of his numbers compared to a vast majority of other polls.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Interesting that Carney has some sort of “honeymoon” when he isn’t actually the leader yet lol.

He’s really got some people worried…

Carney not being JT has stemmed the hemorrhaging at the LPC for now, likley allowing some of the Loyalists to be able to vote for the party again. But how he will fare with the critical swing voters remains to be seen.

 

[Remius]

Carney not being JT has stemmed the hemorrhaging at the LPC for now, likley allowing some of the Loyalists to be able to vote for the party again. But how he will fare with the critical swing voters remains to be seen.

JT leaving, Trump threats from the south and a low favourability for the opposition.

Carney’s honeymoon or not may only really be seen once he’s chosen.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Or maybe they've now learned of things they fear would completely discredit them (with their remaining support) when it comes out if they go full Team Carney.

They're a day late and a dollar short in that department.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I think CBC is looking to stay afloat however the hell they can. If that's moving towards the populist narrative closer to PP and the CPC... they're going to do it. Whomever the LPC leader becomes, may not factor in heavily on their new direction.

But that’s the problem, isn't it? News should be facts, not opinions. There shouldn't be wiggle room to move your goalposts depending on the flavour of the day. Otherwise, you're no better than TMZ.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Low f

JT leaving, Trump threats from the south and a low favourability for the opposition.

Carney’s honeymoon or not may only really be seen once he’s chosen.

Low favourability for the Conservatives?

 

[rmc_wannabe]

But that’s the problem, isn't it? News should be facts, not opinions.

And there was a time when this was true. I remember that growing up, CBC News was the Gold Standard internationally for impartial reporting.

Then the 24/7 News Cycle and Internet News happened. It became more and more about selling the news, providing comment on the news, having pundants and specialists give their take on the news, and taking a "stance" on how the news was reported.

CBC and most other news media were then bought out by those looking to turn that model into moneymaking, and the role of providing facts-based reporting because a tertiary role.

There shouldn't be wiggle room to move your goalposts depending on the flavour of the day. Otherwise, you're no better than TMZ.

Or Fox News, or CNN, or Rebel News, or the Daily Show.

It truly has become theatre more than information passing. It speaks more to Bread and Circuses than telling Romans the state of the Empire.

 

[Remius]

Low f

Low favourability for the Conservatives?

Generally yes. The opposition have benefited from the JT unpopularity. He’s out of the picture now.

PPs overall favourability rating has never been very high despite leading.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Generally yes. The opposition have benefited from the JT unpopularity. He’s out of the picture now.

PPs overall favourability rating has never been very high despite leading.

It's the party standing that counts. That is still running in the 40% range. Don't forget they had Harris points ahead of Trump the day before the election and how'd that work out. You can't predict on polling, as can be seen with EKOS.

Trudeau won't be out of the picture until they pick a new leader and, possibly, not until the general election is over. Unfortunately, he can still articulate the LPC vision, whereas carney can string a coherent sentence together. At least not without gaffing and letting the truth slip out.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Can we get Kamala Harris to translate this for us?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891958001956761831

 

[Halifax Tar]

Can we get Kamala Harris to translate this for us?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891958001956761831

I dislike that man so much the way he holds a mic makes me want to kick him in the shins.

 

[Haggis]

Can we get Kamala Harris to translate this for us?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891958001956761831

Somebody give that man a paper water bottle drink box thingy.

 

[PuckChaser]

Going to lock this up as threads are tending to merge into themselves.