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U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)

A Canadian/American economic union is looking good right now. The Amero!
 
Sadly, I think you may be right. But I want us both to be wrong.
this situation may provide the impetus needed. We are already looking to outsource supplies from the EU/China wherever. Our market is local so no export pressure. Much easier to buy from elsewhere than it is to replace American buyers
 
If you want a treat check out the Canadian sub on reddit when someone posts one of those "Canada will never surrender!" articles.

Oh please just share... Don't make me go there...

Going on reddit is like going to the range anything other than a Lee Enfield. Its just damned uncivilized.
 
Right but where are the humans? You could say the same to an extent for British Columbia. Land doesn’t vote; people do.
True, but when Canadians talk of how the west coast of the USA would embrace us, they forget that a large landmass of that region would not be happy with us at all.
 
The only thing this distraction - that US Republicans would admit a single state with approximately the population and voting habits of California to the union - provides is to illustrate how obstinately Trump can commit to a ridiculous fantasy. That should give pause to people believing that escalating against Trump's protectionist trade policies will cause him to back down rather than counter-escalating to new levels of damage.
 
The only thing this distraction - that US Republicans would admit a single state with approximately the population and voting habits of California to the union - provides is to illustrate how obstinately Trump can commit to a ridiculous fantasy. That should give pause to people believing that escalating against Trump's protectionist trade policies will cause him to back down rather than counter-escalating to new levels of damage.

Why would Trump give voting rights to all of Canada ?

If I was him I would only give full statehood to Alberta and Sask and make the rest of us territories. Like Guam.
 
Why would Trump give voting rights to all of Canada ?

If I was him I would only give full statehood to Alberta and Sask and make the rest of us territories. Like Guam.
While giving Vichy Canada rights and the rest of Canada territorial status might appeal to some it only highlights that anyone taking this seriously is truly only on about political ideology above all else.

Maple MAGA can get bent. Harper has it right.
 
While giving Vichy Canada rights and the rest of Canada territorial status might appeal to some it only highlights that anyone taking this seriously is truly only on about political ideology above all else.

Maple MAGA can get bent. Harper has it right.

I didn't say I agree with it, I'm just saying what I think he would do.

Admitting millions of voters who would never vote Republican is not a smart move. But I am not 100% sure he makes smart moves either.
 
While giving Vichy Canada rights and the rest of Canada territorial status might appeal to some it only highlights that anyone taking this seriously is truly only on about political ideology above all else.

Maple MAGA can get bent. Harper has it right.

The US can see Canada is dysfunctional and chose now to push on this, knowing if they waited for a new CPC government there would be far less dysfunction.

Canada ought to rethink it's relationship with all provinces. If one province continues to get privileged treatment while another degenerated, don't be surprised if things get shook up when a far better deal emerges. People can only be taken advantage of for so long. Canada wouldn't be harmed by the departure of Quebec from federation, but would certainly suffer if any of the western one's left. Fair treatment and progress on matters of national strategic importance (energy) is all it would take to improve unity.

If there are no fundamental shifts in this country and a good US deal remains on the table, if I were the Cdn Government I wouldn't want to chance putting it to a vote.
 
Canada is wholly responsible for the current situation it finds itself in. Jordan Peterson raises some interesting considerations:

"Will Those Provinces Actually Leave?" - Jordan Peterson

Canada shouldn't fight a trade war with it's foremost customer. Canada ought pursue a strong economic union with the US while it can bargain in good standing. The current course is only setting the stage for a weaker bargaining position down the road.

A post nation state will not survive on it's own. The country will fracture and far better deals will emerge.
Not to mention any desire to shift from being part of Canada to the US is also going to run afoul of FN rights, treaties and negotiations. I doubt many FN want to switch administrations and they could tie up any such move in the courts of both countries.

At the end of the day, we only need to hunker down for 4, perhaps 8 years at the most, then the tide will turn yet again.
 
Why would Trump give voting rights to all of Canada ?

If I was him I would only give full statehood to Alberta and Sask and make the rest of us territories. Like Guam.
He is already doing a lot of terrible things to us and probably intends to do more. Is that what you would do if you were him?
 
The US can see Canada is dysfunctional and chose now to push on this, knowing if they waited for a new CPC government there would be far less dysfunction.

Canada ought to rethink it's relationship with all provinces. If one province continues to get privileged treatment while another degenerated, don't be surprised if things get shook up when a far better deal emerges. People can only be taken advantage of for so long. Canada wouldn't be harmed by the departure of Quebec from federation, but would certainly suffer if any of the western one's left. Fair treatment and progress on matters of national strategic importance (energy) is all it would take to improve unity.

If there are no fundamental shifts in this country and a good US deal remains on the table, if I were the Cdn Government I wouldn't want to chance putting it to a vote.
When people talk about Canada being dysfunctional, it amazes me that they don’t say the same about the U.S. There are fewer countries more dysfunctional than the U.S. If it weren’t so dysfunctional people wouldn’t have voted for Trump in the first place to “make things right”. Thousands of people wouldn’t have invaded the U.S. capitol building if they hadn’t been filled with so much hatred. The drug problem is even worse there than here. As bad as crime is here, there are entire neighbourhoods you dare not go into. Everyone carries a gun there out of fear.

I could go on and on about things that are far worse there than here. The one thing they have is size. Yes, they are that elephant that we share the same bed with. But size doesn’t make right. It breeds fear, yes. But you can’t simply cave in to fear and not respond accordingly. Would you cave in to China’s aggressive actions? I certainly hope not.
 
Yes, the US was dysfunctional and will certainly be chaotic for a little while yet as the changes roll through.

Canada and the US have been linked economically, militarily and culturally for the entirety of every living generation. Comparing the US to China is as far outside the mark as you can get. China is an adversary, the US is our most important ally. China wants to control Canada through insidious means, the US is unhappy with Canada's laggard efforts on continental and alliance security.

I know which side I will choose.

Its amusing that so many people on this forum, who are well aware of Canada's lackluster efforts in defence and security and other areas lacking performance expected of a G7, are so well and truly upset that we are actually being called to the mat on it. How dare our allies point out our deliberate negligence! Speaking of which, have you seen the flood gate open of all other countries coming to Canada's defence? Me neither.
 
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