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Except we don't have the infrastructure in place to deliver it and environmental concerns will ensure that we never do. Isn't it ironic that we can't export our oil which is far less polluting than coal.

Ummm:

If China wants the coal, the governments in this country will make sure it gets it.

Have no fear, they’ve been on it for a while…CCP wants coal, Canada provides. 👍🏼
 
Great news for Canadian coal! ;)

China approves coal surge despite emissions pledge: Greenpeace​

Approvals of coal-fired power plants fuel concerns that China will backtrack on goal to become carbon neutral by 2060.

China has approved a surge in coal power this year, prioritising energy supplies over its pledge to reduce emissions from fossil fuels, according to a report by Greenpeace.

The world’s second-largest economy is also its biggest emitter of the greenhouse gases driving climate change. China’s emissions pledges are seen as essential to keeping global temperature rises well below 2 degrees Celsius.

The jump in approvals for coal-fired power plants, however, has fuelled concerns that China will backtrack on its goals for its emissions to peak between 2026 and 2030 and to become carbon neutral by 2060.

Local governments in energy-hungry Chinese provinces approved at least 20.45 gigawatts (GW) of coal-fired power in the first three months of 2023, Greenpeace said on Monday.

That is more than double the 8.63GW Greenpeace reported for the same period last year and greater than the 18.55GW that got the green light for the whole of 2021.

China relied on coal for nearly 60 percent of its electricity last year.

The push for more coal plants is risking “climate disasters … and locking us into a high-carbon pathway”, Greenpeace campaigner Xie Wenwen said.

“The 2022 coal boom has clearly continued into this year,” Xie said.

A study released in February by the Global Energy Monitor said China last year approved the largest expansion of coal-fired power plants since 2015.

Most of the new coal projects approved in the January-March period this year were in provinces that have suffered punishing power shortages due to record heatwaves in the past two years, Greenpeace said.

China approves coal surge despite emissions pledge: Greenpeace

Takes a lot of coal to make the steel for industrial era armies and navies. The airforces can get by with hydro-electricity and aluminum....

Meanwhile the Ukrainians are asking themselves how much damage they can do with cardboard and duct tape and a chemistry kit. And some 3D printers.
 
Except we don't have the infrastructure in place to deliver it and environmental concerns will ensure that we never do. Isn't it ironic that we can't export our oil which is far less polluting than coal.

We have friends that actually want stuff we have to sell. Both in the Pacific and the Atlantic.

Pipelines to Rupert. For Gas, Oils and Bitumen.

And pipelines to the Atlantic - via the Radisson and Groseiller route - out of Hudson's Bay. If they could make a buck shipping furs on a seasonal basis out of ice-bound harbours in tiny wooden hulls during the Little Ice Age then we can surely do better with modern technology these days.

Perhaps our new buddies the Finns can help us make the business case. They seem to know a thing or two about moving natural resources through seasonal ice.



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We need the critical minerals tomorrow, not in 15-20 years time.”

And there are the ice-breakers. The Canadian government needs to build ice-breakers and there is a possibility of collaboration with shipyards in Finland. “Trade-wise, over 90% of all trade (in Finland) goes by boat so that’s why we need to keep the shipping lines open,” Roy explains. “That’s why we’re the world’s best at building ice-breakers, because our lives depend on it.”

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While copper is one of the 31 minerals on Canada’s critical minerals list, it’s unlikely B.C. miners are about to lose China as a key copper buyer. It might be different if B.C. had any copper refining capacity of its own, but it doesn’t.
Canada lacking domestic refining capacity is pretty much expected in most fields, unfortunately.
 
Wow. I don't suppose anyone predicted China would burn as much coal as it thought it needed to.
Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…
 
Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…
So you're saying Canada is a nation of hypocrites? Virtue signallers?
 
Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…
All done before Trudeau. Now try to build a new coal port or open a new mine or a refinery or, or, or. The use of carbon based fuels is going to continue long after Justin hangs up his socks and we will be sitting around watching others grow rich
 
Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…

Sorry, can't hear you over our own awesomeness ;)

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Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…
A while back I proposed Canada should tolerate emissions increases necessary to support increased natural gas extraction and expedite the expansion of shipping capacity (to Asia). The aim would be to achieve net worldwide emissions decreases at the cost of lesser local increases. A member (who I think is no longer here) objected and insisted that Canada stick to its emissions targets. But we observe it is OK to go the other direction, and help others to increase emissions. There is no overcoming that level of base foolishness.

With Germany and China's recent behaviour, a hole has been conclusively blown through the (predictable and predicted) fiction that the problem can be solved by having nations negotiate targets and stick to them.

So, back to the original plan, please: take the binders off the fossil fuel economy and use it to make the climb to a less fossil-fueled economy.
 
Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…

Reminds me of the quote attributed to Lenin: “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”
 
Fortunately Canada had the foresight to support the development of a massive coal shipment terminal to send coal to Chia and other Asian customers…clairvoyant almost. Canada, world leader in supporting others to increase CO2 emissions while we pretend we’re not letting others contribute to the increase of CO2 emissions…
Funny that.....hmmm almost like somebody should be asking questions?

But then it leads to a very tricky question......So CO2 really is not problem it seems? So what are we really trying solve then?
 
Funny that.....hmmm almost like somebody should be asking questions?

But then it leads to a very tricky question......So CO2 really is not problem it seems? So what are we really trying solve then?
The climate hoax has always been about shifting profits to China.
 
The climate hoax has always been about shifting profits to China.
How about the "global warming" line from the early 1980s, before China opened its doors to the world?
 
How about the "global warming" line from the early 1980s, before China opened its doors to the world?
40 years ago it was still about profits for someone, but China being opportunistic has since taken advantage.
 
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