A Deeply Fractured US
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Probably not. They haven't really been rallying behind people who make false statements on applications.
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Inflammatory much? The 2A folks have never backed people breaking the law. No more than the lawful PAL holders here support gang bangers using smuggled guns. Law abiding firearms owners arm them selves to protect their families and selves from drug addled criminals that possess illegal firearms. Like Biden.
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Huh, hello, what?
Isn't Trump being charged for several counts of fraud?
And the Trump Org was already convicted on several accounts of tax fraud.
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When prosecutions of prominent political figures are seen as illegitimate by 50% of the population, the country has a serious problem.
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Inflammatory much?
As has been oft emphasized on these means, an individual is "presumed innocent until proven guilty". Biden (the son) has not (to my knowledge) previously been convicted of a crime (nor even been previously charged with a
Biden was indicted on three counts, which were, in essence, for buying a gun when he was a drug addict and lying on a form that he wasn't a drug addict. The statute that prohibits "unlawful" drug users and addicts from possessing a gun is;
18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts
The lying offenses are in § 924
18 U.S. Code § 924 - Penalties
As for "2A folks backing people breaking the law" . . .
There is a case, that will likely make its way to the US Supreme Court, that is directly on point for the consitutionality of Biden possessing a firearm. In U.S. v. Daniels, a US Appeals Court recently overturned a conviction under 922(g)(3) (drug user possessing a gun) reasoning that -
"Absent a comparable regulatory tradition in either the 18th or 19th century, fails constitutional muster under the Second Amendment"
Granted there are other issues related to that successful constitutional appeal, including that it applies (at present) only to Daniels (the individual).
But what does any of that have to do with "2A folks"? I think I can safely characterize "Gun Owners of America, Inc.", the "Gun Owners Foundation", and the "Tennessee Firearms Association" as '2A folks'. Well, those folks backed an individual who did the same thing as Hunter Biden, and in their amicus brief in support of his appeal said;
"Section 922(g)(3) takes a “sledgehammer” to the Second Amendment and therefore is unconstitutional."
Actually, indirectly, they partly have. The NRA was an intervenor in NYSRPA v. Bruen, a Supreme Court case that upheld 2A rights against state level restrictions on firearms ownership. See NRA-ILA | NRA Wins Supreme Court Case, NYSRPA v. Bruen
Inflammatory much?
As has been oft emphasized on these means, an individual is "presumed innocent until proven guilty". Biden (the son) has not (to my knowledge) previously been convicted of a crime (nor even been previously charged with an indictable offensefelony). He does have an self-admitted history of drugabuseaddiction, which was the underlying reason for his "administrative" discharge from the US Navy - so far, the only legal-adjacent consequence of his drug addling.
Biden was indicted on three counts, which were, in essence, for buying a gun when he was a drug addict and lying on a form that he wasn't a drug addict. The statute that prohibits "unlawful" drug users and addicts from possessing a gun is;
18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts
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The lying offenses are in § 924
18 U.S. Code § 924 - Penalties
As for "2A folks backing people breaking the law" . . .
There is a case, that will likely make its way to the US Supreme Court, that is directly on point for the consitutionality of Biden possessing a firearm. In U.S. v. Daniels, a US Appeals Court recently overturned a conviction under 922(g)(3) (drug user possessing a gun) reasoning that -
"Absent a comparable regulatory tradition in either the 18th or 19th century, fails constitutional muster under the Second Amendment"
Granted there are other issues related to that successful constitutional appeal, including that it applies (at present) only to Daniels (the individual).
But what does any of that have to do with "2A folks"? I think I can safely characterize "Gun Owners of America, Inc.", the "Gun Owners Foundation", and the "Tennessee Firearms Association" as '2A folks'. Well, those folks backed an individual who did the same thing as Hunter Biden, and in their amicus brief in support of his appeal said;
"Section 922(g)(3) takes a “sledgehammer” to the Second Amendment and therefore is unconstitutional."
NYSRPA v Bruen is a key case underlying the Daniels appeal that @Blackadder1916 is referring to. So the NRA, by fighting 2A cases generally, has absolutely laid the legal foundation for challenges that stand a good chance of torpedoing at least one of the offences Hunter Biden is charged with. I don’t think the NRA would be troubled by this; they’re pretty agnostic as to whose gun rights they’ll uphold.
But, as established above, the NRA are VERY vested in which criminal laws exist at all. To say they won’t back people breaking the law isn’t really accurate if they’re trying to knock down the law itself.
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Further too the international summit in Montreal...
That's right - the Brits will travel to Canada but will not talk to each other...
The biggest threat to democracy comes from the illiberal left's failure to listen and insistence on their preferred solutions to problems that only they perceive.
Liberals used to ride with a light rein.
That's right - the Brits will travel to Canada but will not talk to each other...
Keir Starmer has no plans to meet David Miliband at Left-wing leaders summit
Labour leader is expected to meet Justin Trudeau at the event in Canada - but will have no meetings with British figures, the party said
ByDaniel Martin, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR15 September 2023 • 9:07pm
Keir Starmer and David Lammy, the shadow foreign secretary, in Montreal ahead of the Global Progress Action Summit CREDIT: Labour Party
Sir Keir Starmer has flown to Canada for a meeting of centre-Left leaders, but has no plans to meet David Miliband who is also attending.
The Labour leader will attend the gathering on the latest stage of his world tour, which will see him visit President Emmanuel Macron in Paris next week.
He is expected to meet Justin Trudeau, the Canadian prime minister, at the “2023 Global Progress Action Summit”.
But a Labour spokeswoman said there were no meetings with British figures in the diary, ruling out engagements with Sir Tony Blair and Mr Miliband, the former foreign secretary.
Mr Miliband, who heads up a charity in New York, is seen as a potential future champion for the centre-Left if he returns to the UK Parliament - something he has not ruled out.
He ran for the Labour leadership after Gordon Brown’s 2010 election defeat, but lost to his younger brother, Ed Miliband.
David Miliband left Parliament in 2013 to become chief executive of the International Rescue Committee CREDIT: Efrem Lukatsky/AP
Despite leading his party to defeat in 2015, the younger Mr Miliband was brought back into the fold by Sir Keir five years later, after he was appointed shadow business secretary and later shadow energy minister.
The older Mr Miliband left Parliament in 2013 to become chief executive of the International Rescue Committee. He is still revered by many Blairites in Labour.
Other attendees at the summit include Jacinda Ahern, the former prime minister of New Zealand, and Sanna Marin, the former premier of Finland.
Jonas Gahr Store, the current prime minister of Norway, will also be in attendance, along with Magdalena Andersson, the Swedish opposition leader.
‘Axis of instability’
Sir Keir will use his meetings to talk about the “axis of instability” - terrorism, climate change, criminal people smuggling gangs and threats to democracy - that he believes make up the future challenges for Western economies.
He will say that domestic policy is inextricably linked with foreign policy more than ever before, and argue that only progressive internationalist politics can rise to these challenges.
The Labour leader will tell other leaders that the Tories have overseen a decade of stagnant growth and over-reliance on the likes of China, while diminishing Britain’s reputation and influence on the global stage.
He will press his plans to restore order to UK borders by arguing that Tory Party myopia and pandering to the populist and radical Right has led to less effective international co-operation and made it harder to tackle small boats.
One aide told the Times: “Border security is a progressive cause. Soft borders benefit no one except the smuggling gangs and those who want to whip up distrust and hatred.”
The biggest threat to democracy comes from the illiberal left's failure to listen and insistence on their preferred solutions to problems that only they perceive.
Liberals used to ride with a light rein.
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What's unusual about that? Even his brother Ed barely talks to him . . . and vice versa.
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I never thought we'd see the day where South Park was a documentary, but, here we are.
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Long before the incident with the…well endowed…cross-dressing teacher in Ontario last year, I thought this episode was spot on.I never thought we'd see the day where South Park was a documentary, but, here we are.
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Yeah, I saw all that on TV news today. Not word for word mind, but close. I guess we'll have to see. I don't expect much. Because, politics.Inflammatory much?
As has been oft emphasized on these means, an individual is "presumed innocent until proven guilty". Biden (the son) has not (to my knowledge) previously been convicted of a crime (nor even been previously charged with an indictable offensefelony). He does have an self-admitted history of drugabuseaddiction, which was the underlying reason for his "administrative" discharge from the US Navy - so far, the only legal-adjacent consequence of his drug addling.
Biden was indicted on three counts, which were, in essence, for buying a gun when he was a drug addict and lying on a form that he wasn't a drug addict. The statute that prohibits "unlawful" drug users and addicts from possessing a gun is;
18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts
The lying offenses are in § 924
18 U.S. Code § 924 - Penalties
As for "2A folks backing people breaking the law" . . .
There is a case, that will likely make its way to the US Supreme Court, that is directly on point for the consitutionality of Biden possessing a firearm. In U.S. v. Daniels, a US Appeals Court recently overturned a conviction under 922(g)(3) (drug user possessing a gun) reasoning that -
"Absent a comparable regulatory tradition in either the 18th or 19th century, fails constitutional muster under the Second Amendment"
Granted there are other issues related to that successful constitutional appeal, including that it applies (at present) only to Daniels (the individual).
But what does any of that have to do with "2A folks"? I think I can safely characterize "Gun Owners of America, Inc.", the "Gun Owners Foundation", and the "Tennessee Firearms Association" as '2A folks'. Well, those folks backed an individual who did the same thing as Hunter Biden, and in their amicus brief in support of his appeal said;
"Section 922(g)(3) takes a “sledgehammer” to the Second Amendment and therefore is unconstitutional."
So he's not a criminal.....yet. However, by his own admission, he was getting ready for rehab again. Because he was drug addled at the time. He even has pics on his laptop posing naked with it.
Packin’ heat: Nude Hunter Biden cavorts with hooker, gun in latest mess for president
A naked Hunter casually waves around a handgun and even points it at the camera while partying with a prostitute in 2018, the video shows.
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Great trigger control..
My original point was that it's insulting to lawful gun owners to imply they would support such actions as Biden’s. As to the groups mentioned, they are fighting a constitutional conundrum based on an a 2A incident they deemed unfair. Daniels, convicted by a jury, is simply a catalyst. It's asking for clarification of a statute using the Daniel circumstances to frame their argument.
The amicus brief, is basically a historical look on how various governments have handled intoxication and firearms. From 1623 til about 1920ish(?) It mostly dealt with alcohol. They didn't have crystal meth back then.
An opinion by the authors.
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Trump beating Biden by 20 points among under-35s in election poll
Trump had the support of 53 per cent of the 18 to 35-year-olds surveyed, while Biden was backed by just 38 per cent.
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Trump edges out Biden 51-42 in head-to-head matchup: POLL
The president's ratings for the economy and immigration are at career lows, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.
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Not sure that "edging" correctly describes a 9 point lead.
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I wonder why Rishi decided to postpone his 2030 ICE deadline?
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So if Ford priced the Electric F150 fairly it would cost at least $86000 more than a gas or diesel F150. And that may be on light side depending on how Ford defines "loss". Hard cost of manufacture or lost opportunity? A baseline gasoline F150 XL sells for about $33,000. Add $86,000 to that and you are at $119,000 USD or roughly FOUR TIMES the price.
I wonder why Rishi decided to postpone his 2030 ICE deadline?
Trump is fighting an American class war – and winning
The Democrats have become the party of corporate power, political censorship and cultural extremism
JOEL KOTKIN25 September 2023 • 3:25pm
UAW workers on strike CREDIT: Dieu-Nalio Chery/Reuter
The most important political event this week will not be the upcoming GOP debate but Donald Trump’s expected visit with striking UAW workers as the walkout expands to other states. In that one appearance, Trump demonstrates one of the most critical parts of political change, the emergence of the populist right.
The fact that Trump can expect something of a friendly reception is remarkable. He’s the child of wealth who revels in luxury and whose prime cause seems to be tax cuts for his fellows. But he fuels his campaign on the anger of America’s middle and working classes. In 2016, exit polls showed a larger share of union households voted for Trump than any president since Ronald Reagan. In 2020 in Ohio, he received roughly half the votes of unionized construction workers.
Once hostile to unions, Republicans like Florida’s Senator Marco Rubio, Ohio’s JD Vance and Missouri’s Josh Hawley have all pledged support to the strikers. Union-affiliated Democrats may find this “laughable,” but perhaps not so amusing on election day. Certainly, Biden is doing his best to expand his working-class base.
In its first two years, the Biden administration ushered in high levels of inflation that has eroded as much as $7,000 in average purchasing power. The Biden record is further scarred by expanding inequality, home affordability at a near an all-time low and poverty, particularly among, children on the rise. One recent poll found that nearly 70 percent of Americans think the economy is worse now than in 2020.
This distress is reflected, among other things, in a rapid rise in strikes, up 50 percent over the past year. Faced with assaults on their jobs, much of the working class is not marching in sync with the Democrats’ “net zero” agenda. They realize that the much hyped green jobs – a recent study found barely one percent of workers in “dirty” jobs find jobs in “clean” sectors – are likely to be fewer in numbers and lower in quality than those jobs which will be lost.
The auto strike illustrates the dangers of Biden’s bid to rapidly transform a massive $3 trillion global industry. EVs require the use of 30 percent less domestic labor in the U.S. as high value employment shifts to China and other overseas spots; in Germany job losses could reach upwards of 400,000 of its estimated 800,000 auto jobs by 2030. The clear big winner is China which now produces twice as many EVs as the US and the EU combined.
Detroit brass may make ever higher salaries but everyone else has their head on the proverbial chopping block. Ford recently announced massive layoffs for its professional staff, and is losing $60,000 per EV, something not exactly sustainable. Worse yet, most new electric vehicle and battery plants are located either in the Heartland, the South or other non-union locations. UAW demands for a 30 per cent pay rise over four years and a 32 hour work week won’t make automakers more anxious to go union.
The EV mandate also constitutes a slap in the face of middle- and lower-income people who have never been inside an auto plant. The average price for a brand-new EV is over $60,000, about $12,000 more than the average four-door sedan. The electric version of the Ford F-150 pickup truck, the best-selling vehicle in America, costs an additional $26,000 over the gasoline-powered variety. Some two-thirds of all EV owners have incomes in excess of $100,000.
The rest will be forced a la Cuba into holding onto their own vehicles for additional decades or give up owning their own cars entirely. Even the Washington Post recently admitted that electric vehicles are hastening the return to conditions where the automobile becomes once again a luxury.
“New cars, once part of the American Dream, now out of reach for many,” notes the voice of Bezos.
Nor is the green assault likely to impact only autoworkers and consumers. Workers involved in energy-intensive industries like food, logistics and construction all face massive green regulatory onslaughts. All this reflects what seems an almost purposeful diminishing of the American dream, with the EV the latest poster child for the new green class order. US treasury secretary Janet Yellen recently suggested that her department sees climate change as ‘the greatest economic opportunity of our time’. To be sure, there’s lots of gold in green for the same Wall Street investors, tech oligarchs and inheritors who fund the campaigns of climate activists.
But for the hoi polloi, as Trump will remind them, there is little prospect for a full-bore industrial revival under the Biden regulatory regime. Despite all the subsidies being provided by Biden to US industries, American manufacturing has dropped recently to its lowest point since the pandemic. Blue collar workers like truck drivers, farmers, miners and oil rig workers have already been shifting to the GOP. For these workers the promise of “net-zero” and “degrowth” raises the prospect of unemployment and a future on the dole. Just one per cent of blue collar workers, according to a new Monmouth poll, consider climate as their main concern.
For Trump and the GOP, seizing on these working class concerns is all the more important as the antics of the former President and his coterie will continue to cost votes among better educated voters. Perhaps most critical will be attempts to win over minorities who make up over 40 percent of the nation’s working class and will constitute the majority by 2032. These workers – the very minorities Democrats have counted on to assure their future ascendancy – are feeling abandoned by the party, notes long-time Democratic analyst Ruy Teixeira, coauthor of the upcoming book, “Where Have the Democrats Gone?”
Teixiera points also to cultural issues to explain the shift of minority voters towards both Trump and the Republicans. Many minority parents tend to be leery of transgender transitions for under age youths and in California. Recent immigrants, African Americans and Muslims have been in the forefront of protests against new sex education standards, with graphic representations of carnal acts of various kinds. Overall, immigrants – according to one recent survey – are twice as conservative in their social views as the general public.
Of course, the transformation of the GOP into a working-class party, much less a more diverse one, is far from assured. Much of the party’s power base cares far more about achieving outsized profits than improving conditions for their workers, or anyone else. Tax cuts for the ultra-rich, lower capital gains, attempts to overturn Obamacare, draconian abortion bans – all part of the Republican program – are not winners with working- or middle-class voters.
Faced with a close race, Biden may follow the lead of some European leaders in slowing and even reversing some of his ultra-green policies. As the greens lose support, political leaders in places like Germany – suffering Europe’s highest energy prices and EV-driven layoffs – are rethinking their rapid “net zero” approach; this reassessment is going on as well in struggling economies like Italy and Poland, and the United Kingdom. Even Labour, once uniformly ultra-green, seems to have second thoughts about the net zero agenda’s impact on union jobs.
The auto strike, and Trump’s bold attempt to take advantage of it, reveals how much working class voters now see the Democratic Party, as insurgent Robert F Kennedy junior has suggested, as the party of corporate power, political censorship and cultural extremism. Their real interests may not align with Trump’s, but until Democrats rediscovers their popular roots, we will have to consider the horrid prospect of his return to the White House.
Trump is fighting an American class war – and winning
The Democrats have become the party of corporate power, political censorship and cultural extremism
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Meanwhile Trump continues to do "weird Trump shit"
I'm no fan of Gen Milley, but suggesting his execution may just be a "little" extreme
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1706476814808256530?s=20
and lets add another few felonies on camera...
- not only is he under felony indictment - but SC isn't a border state to Florida, so one cannot buy and take possession of a handgun in a state that isn't directly adjacent to ones state of residence.
*several states also limit handgun purchasing to state residents, but that would not be a Federal issue.
I'm no fan of Gen Milley, but suggesting his execution may just be a "little" extreme
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1706476814808256530?s=20
and lets add another few felonies on camera...
- not only is he under felony indictment - but SC isn't a border state to Florida, so one cannot buy and take possession of a handgun in a state that isn't directly adjacent to ones state of residence.
*several states also limit handgun purchasing to state residents, but that would not be a Federal issue.
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I'm no longer shocked anymore
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Uh, wow, can't find a less biased source, but a judge in NY found Trump's business were based on rampant fraud, and is ordering their licence pulled and liquidated?
Can't see that not getting pushed to an appeal before actions get taken, but holy crap.
Trumpâs business empire could collapse âlike falling dominoesâ after ruling
Can't see that not getting pushed to an appeal before actions get taken, but holy crap.
Trumpâs business empire could collapse âlike falling dominoesâ after ruling
Here’s the actual written decision. Donald Trump, the Trump Organization, et al are the defendants referred to throughout the decision. I’ve not had time to read it, but I gather you’re essentially correct. Due to rampant fraud and misvaluations, a bunch of Donald Trump’s businesses in New York are losing their business licenses and will go into receivership.
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<sarcasm>C'mon, it wasn't literal - "everybody" "knows" what he "really meant", right? </sarcasm>
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Holy crap, that seems like a fairly brutal rebuttal of the basic legal arguments they were making as well, while bringing receipts to explain how wrong their arguments were.
Just skimming through it but gems like this seem like a written kick in the bar (italics as per the document)
I mean, damn. In a few lines, counsel is implied to be unsofisticated (ie dumb), frivolous, and incompetent. And then it just gets worse, calling their behaviour egresgious and their continued use of the same arguements indefensible. Seems like the kind of things that would get them referred to the law society for being hot garbage.
Looking at the footnote it gets even worse, noting that it was pointed out the arguements were frivolous even the first time (emphasis theirs).
I sense this judge was pissed off at lack of competence and wasting the Courts time repeatedly, and this is probably after multiple edits.
Just skimming through it but gems like this seem like a written kick in the bar (italics as per the document)
I mean, damn. In a few lines, counsel is implied to be unsofisticated (ie dumb), frivolous, and incompetent. And then it just gets worse, calling their behaviour egresgious and their continued use of the same arguements indefensible. Seems like the kind of things that would get them referred to the law society for being hot garbage.
Looking at the footnote it gets even worse, noting that it was pointed out the arguements were frivolous even the first time (emphasis theirs).
I sense this judge was pissed off at lack of competence and wasting the Courts time repeatedly, and this is probably after multiple edits.
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