U.S. Politics 2018

[kkwd]

CNN - if it is worth doing it is worth overdoing. Videos contain language unsuitable for mixed company, viewer discretion advised. These videos are from Mark Dice so be warned you may be triggered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkKzKAa7-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW7k6A8G7UE

 

[Loachman]

Trump just has to wear a pussy hat

No, no, no, no, no.

Those are now "Racist and Transphobic".

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455377/pussyhats-racist-transphobic-feminists-say?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=180112_Jolt&utm_term=Jolt

Please try to keep up.

 

[Loachman]

These videos are from Mark Dice so be warned you may be triggered.

I've been subscribed for almost a year and a half now.

 

[Bird_Gunner45]

I've been subscribed for almost a year and a half now.

Ahhhh mark dice, author of such classic as "the illuminati: facts and fiction", "the resistance manifesto", and "the dating book". Mandatory reading for anyone who believes they need to keep a basement bunker for when "the left" comes for "the guns".  :Tin-Foil-Hat:

 

[TheHead]

Yeah Mark Dice is bat crap insane.  He's a conspiracy theorist who thinks 9/11 was staged by the US Military and that Rihanna and Jay Z promote Satanism.  Solid source.  The only thing that triggers me about Dice is that he's a conspiracy theorist bullshit factory like Alex Jones.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I wonder how many Americans in Hawaii are considering making bunkers today.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

You forgot the soul crushing taxes on everything in Norway. It is the most expensive place that I have been on the planet.

Somebody has to pay for all that free shit.

 

[Bird_Gunner45]

You forgot the soul crushing taxes on everything in Norway. It is the most expensive place that I have been on the planet.

Somebody has to pay for all that free crap.

Correct. "I" didn't forget about taxes, they're just irrelevant to the point about immigration. As Norway was #1 on the world happiness scale I doubt they're that worried about taxes. The US coming in at 14th woukd seem to indicate the point that the answer to Trump's question about why Norwegians don't immigrate is self apparent.

*note- the world happiness index is by its nature subjective. However it dies give some basis for analysis.

 

[larry Strong]

So, yes, people are ‘happy’ here. Happy because the system incentive's underachievement and leisure without the nasty consequence of watching a peer surge ahead financially.

https://www.sovereignman.com/lifestyle-design/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/

Effective income tax rate Norway 43.9%, Massachusetts 33%, Florida 28.3%

https://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/comparing-tax-rates-in-the-us-and-norway.html

Just a couple of quick google searches.......


Cheers
Larry

 

[larry Strong]

A cost comparison between Canada and Norway

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Canada&country2=Norway

Cheers
Larry

 

[mariomike]

I'm not a tax / immigration expert. Just adding for reference to the "discussion",

"The upshot of these comparative figures is that depending on location within the USA and on consumption habits, the typical American wage-earner may be as heavily taxed as the Norwegian one, who earns more."
http://www.norwegianamerican.com/neighborhood/norway-usa-in-contrast-wages-and-taxes/

Reuters

'Thanks, but no thanks' - Norwegians reject Trump's immigration offer
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-norway/thanks-but-no-thanks-norwegians-reject-trumps-immigration-offer-idUSKBN1F11QK

 

[Bird_Gunner45]

https://www.sovereignman.com/lifestyle-design/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/

https://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/comparing-tax-rates-in-the-us-and-norway.html

Just a couple of quick google searches.......


Cheers
Larry

Effective tax rate doesn't equal happiness or desire to immigrate. So yeah,  taxes are lower in the US. It's also irrelevant to the point. Taxes are lower in the US than in Canada too, but I prefer not buying day insurance so that my kid can play a hockey game in Bottineau, ND as well.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

ETaxes are lower in the US than in Canada too, but I prefer not buying day insurance so that my kid can play a hockey game in Bottineau, ND as well.

Are you sure of that?

http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=TABLE_I1#

 

[Bird_Gunner45]

Are you sure of that?

http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=TABLE_I1#

Tbh, it was an assumption. Interesting read though

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Correct. "I" didn't forget about taxes, they're just irrelevant to the point about immigration. As Norway was #1 on the world happiness scale I doubt they're that worried about taxes. The US coming in at 14th woukd seem to indicate the point that the answer to Trump's question about why Norwegians don't immigrate is self apparent.

*note- the world happiness index is by its nature subjective. However it dies give some basis for analysis.

They are not irrelevant, really. I have spoken with actual real, live Norwegians, living outside Norway. They all love their country. They also all decried the price of absolutely everything inside Norway and how much they enjoyed being out from underneath it for a few years.

Of course, I acknowledge that anecdote is not evidence and that there is far more to life than the price of gasoline or your personal income tax load.

I guess what I am really saying is that I dislike simplistic memes, whatever their political persuasion.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Are you sure of that?

http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=TABLE_I1#

Hey that is a cool table! Thanks for that!

 

[PuckChaser]

Moved the "meme" to here: https://army.ca/forums/threads/123289.0.html I think we're above letting poorly constructed gifs on the internet count as source material to prove a point, when we could be using sources like this:

http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=TABLE_I1#

 

[Bird_Gunner45]

Moved the "meme" to here: https://army.ca/forums/threads/123289.0.html I think we're above letting poorly constructed gifs on the internet count as source material to prove a point, when we could be using sources like this:

Didn't someone reference Mark Dice as credible?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Speaking of Norway https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-04/how-not-to-run-a-sovereign-wealth-fund

 

[Journeyman]

Didn't someone reference Mark Dice as credible?

Well.... no one who's credible.