U.S. Politics 2018

[Rifleman62]

Who are

the estimated million plus children under 18 from being deported?

If it's the DACA "children" you are referring to:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/25/key-facts-about-unauthorized-immigrants-enrolled-in-daca/

1.  About 690,000 unauthorized immigrants were enrolled in DACA as of Sept. 4 (2017) . Although roughly 800,000 unauthorized immigrants have ever received benefits through DACA, about 110,000 of this group are no longer enrolled in the program. About 70,000 former DACA participants did not renew their benefits or had their renewal applications denied. Another 40,000 have adjusted their legal status and obtained green cards, which grant lawful permanent residence.

2. The average age of “Dreamers” enrolled in DACA is 24 years old. Those 25 and younger make up two-thirds of active DACA recipients – 29% are ages 16-20 and 37% are ages 21-25. About a quarter (24%) are ages 26-30, while one-in-ten (11%) are ages 31-36. (No DACA recipients are older than 36 because the program required applicants to have entered the U.S. before their 16th birthday and have been under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Yea those. Thanks. Stats I seen were a million plus under 18 and 1.4 million maybe of 18-25?

 

[jollyjacktar]

I have read suggestions that we should offer places for those dreamers who want to come here.  They're educated, part of the North American culture, speak English and would be an easy fit into Canadian society.  Makes more sense than some who have come here.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Does anyone else find it a bit strange 5 months worth of text messages by Anti-Trump FBI agents disappeared?
During the crucial timespan in the FBI’s Russia investigation?

Coincidence right?

 

[Blackadder1916]

Do you have a reference so that the rest of us can play along?

Or are you talking about the text messages that the DOJ have already said have been found . . .

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-missing-fbi-text-messages-recovered-senator-backs/story?id=52612567

Missing FBI text messages recovered

The growing saga over text messages sent between two FBI colleagues who briefly worked on special counsel Robert Mueller’s team took some unexpected turns Thursday, as a cache of missing messages characterized by President Donald Trump as a major scandal had been recovered and as a top Republican backed off a claim that FBI agents formed a “secret society” to undermine Trump.

Earlier this week, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., and other Republicans suggested that a months-old text message between the two FBI officials revealed that "secret society,” and Johnson said a “whistleblower” had corroborated the allegation.

But Johnson refused to publicly release the full text message, sent the day after Trump was elected in November 2016, or to characterize the “whistleblower” in any way.

On Wednesday, ABC News and other news outlets obtained copies of the relevant text message, which indicated the reference to a “secret society” may have been an inside joke.

. . . . .

 

[kkwd]

Do you have a reference so that the rest of us can play along?

Or are you talking about the text messages that the DOJ have already said have been found . . .

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-missing-fbi-text-messages-recovered-senator-backs/story?id=52612567

The texts were found by the Inspector General's office. An independent entity of DOJ established to keep an eye on all the department's branches. They were not found by the people supposed to keep track of such things. Anyway, they are being sent to the Justice Department and they will determine how to turn them over to Senate committees.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370711-justice-department-recovers-missing-fbi-agents-text-messages

 

[Jarnhamar]

Do you have a reference so that the rest of us can play along?

Or are you talking about the text messages that the DOJ have already said have been found . . .

A link was wasn't nessary.
The fact that the DOJ found the missing texts hardly puts a case closed stamp on  things.
I trust I don't have to spell out the implications for anyone behind the FBI "accidentally loosing" text messages during their failed Russian collusion witch hunt.
  :nod:

 

[Jarnhamar]

New FBI texts appear to show early 2016 discussion of Clinton special prosecutor

New excerpts of text exchanges between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page released Thursday appear to show the two discussing the Hillary Clinton email investigation, including how much manpower they should exert and whether or not a special prosecutor should be brought in.
"She might be our next president. The last thing you need us going in there loaded for bear," Page, an FBI attorney, said in a discussion on February 25, 2016, about personnel involved in the investigation. "You think she's going to remember or care that it was more doj than fbi?"
"Agreed," replied Strzok, who was romantically involved with Page, and who led the probe as the former No. 2 counterintelligence official at the bureau.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/fbi-texts/index.html

I get the feeling the FBI investigating Clinton may not have gave it their 100%  :dunno:

 

[kkwd]

A link was wasn't nessary.
The fact that the DOJ found the missing texts hardly puts a case closed stamp on  things.
I trust I don't have to spell out the implications for anyone behind the FBI "accidentally loosing" text messages during their failed Russian collusion witch hunt.
  :nod:

The premier investigative body in the US, the FBI, couldn't find the missing texts. It took a gaggle of lawyers mere days to root them out. Sad.

 

[kkwd]

How about Davos. There were predictions that he would get the cold shoulder at that affair. Seems the world and business leaders want to rub shoulders with him instead. They want a piece of the pie as well. Happy.

 

[angus555]

How about Davos. There were predictions that he would get the cold shoulder at that affair. Seems the world and business leaders want to rub shoulders with him instead. They want a piece of the pie as well. Happy.

At least he got booed there by some people in the crowd when he mentioned "fake news".

But of course Mr. President, they were vocalizing in awe of your astute and captivating oratory skills.

 

[kkwd]

At least he got booed there by some people in the crowd when he mentioned "fake news".

But of course Mr. President, they were vocalizing in awe of your astute and captivating oratory skills.

Big deal, there is no satisfying some people. Notice I didn't use the "T" word in my post, lest some people get triggered.

 

[angus555]

Big deal, there is no satisfying some people. Notice I didn't use the "T" word in my post, lest some people get triggered.

They sat there quietly tolerating the rest of his speech.

It is funny to see when some his typical twitter rhetoric falls flat outside of the US.

 

[kkwd]

They sat there quietly tolerating the rest of his speech.

It is funny to see when some his typical twitter rhetoric falls flat outside of the US.

That applause of the attendees and kind words at the end by the event organizer was "fake"?

 

[angus555]

That applause of the attendees and kind words at the end by the event organizer was "fake"?

Didn't say that. I was talking about the people that booed.

For Trump, Davos is just another beauty pageant for the super rich. Of course they applauded.

 

[kkwd]

Didn't say that. I was talking about the people that booed.

For Trump, Davos is just another beauty pageant for the super rich. Of course they applauded.

So it was a great success. He delivered his message to a worldwide receptive audience. What is done cannot be undone.

 

[angus555]

So it was a great success.

No. It was a HUGE, bigly successful.

 

[Rifleman62]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLR4ipaY9M

President Trump has dinner with European Business Leaders. Davos. World Economic Forum. Jan 25, 2018 (video at link)


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/01/26/davos-president-trumps-long-awaited-speech/1068355001/

Trump tells global Davos crowd: 'America is open for business' - 26 Jan 18


Extract: 1. President Trump made the case for his "America First" policy before an elite gathering of political and business leaders Friday, saying "America is open for business."

In a closing speech at the World Economic Forum in this Alpine resort, Trump stressed that his administration aims to make the United States more competitive for business. He also vowed that the U.S. is committed to free and open trade, but on terms it considers fair and reciprocal.



Contrast with:

https://www.thestar.com/business/opinion/2018/01/23/how-justin-trudeau-missed-his-moment-at-davos.html

How Justin Trudeau missed his moment at Davos - 23 Jan 18

Extract: 1. While the prime minister opened his remarks with trade, and offered a nod toward “progressive values in the context of globalization,” he then veered into a montage of greatest hits on gender parity, diversity, the imbalance of corporate boards, single mothers, the Canada child benefit, future women’s summits, the need for women in STEM, the urgency to create more well-paying middle class jobs.

 

[Altair]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLR4ipaY9M

President Trump has dinner with European Business Leaders. Davos. World Economic Forum. Jan 25, 2018 (video at link)


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/01/26/davos-president-trumps-long-awaited-speech/1068355001/

Trump tells global Davos crowd: 'America is open for business' - 26 Jan 18


Extract: 1. President Trump made the case for his "America First" policy before an elite gathering of political and business leaders Friday, saying "America is open for business."

In a closing speech at the World Economic Forum in this Alpine resort, Trump stressed that his administration aims to make the United States more competitive for business. He also vowed that the U.S. is committed to free and open trade, but on terms it considers fair and reciprocal.



Contrast with:

https://www.thestar.com/business/opinion/2018/01/23/how-justin-trudeau-missed-his-moment-at-davos.html

How Justin Trudeau missed his moment at Davos - 23 Jan 18

Extract: 1. While the prime minister opened his remarks with trade, and offered a nod toward “progressive values in the context of globalization,” he then veered into a montage of greatest hits on gender parity, diversity, the imbalance of corporate boards, single mothers, the Canada child benefit, future women’s summits, the need for women in STEM, the urgency to create more well-paying middle class jobs.

Which is better to you, Trump talking about America being open for business while threatening to tear up NAFTA and walking away from the TPP,  or Canada signing two trade deals that opens up trade with a billion people between the two of them?

 

[Rifleman62]

Do you really think the US is not going to trade with any other countries? America First and the tax cuts are to provide jobs for Americans so they can produce "things" in the USA for consumers to purchase (because they now have jobs and funds) and to trade to other countries.

Did you read: https://army.ca/forums/threads/127262.0.html

Canada can sign all the trade deals it wants. Trade deals are the icing on nothing. No cake. They are meaningless if Canada is not business productive.

Capital generally moves across borders to where the most productive investment opportunities exist and where costs are lowest.

No amount of hogwash about “the new age of doing business” is going to change that.