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This is definitely a post I have to be careful of what I say. I'm not exactly concealing my identity to those who know me.
Questions / Food for thought. Although the PER system isn't perfect, its actually pretty good. As people have said, you're not going to make everyone happy in an organization as large as the CF by any stretch. I also don't believe any promotion-into-position system could really work unless the whole remar and manning pool numbers were a lot more adhered to. Seriously, does anyone (especially in tech trades) actually work in the position their job code describes? Few people I know do. So, on paper, people could fight for my position, then get into my shop and learn their 'Real position'.
Secondly, I read that a LOT of people gripe about honesty, or even universal honesty as far as the scoring process goes - but I believe there are a lot more 'big machine' issues that come out long before honesty. For starters, its abstract, so each individual PER is unique by universal law (butterfly effect) -- those who wrote mine were taught how to by different people than those who write yours. In passing conversations about PLQs, there is a HUGE variance on emphasis and even skills taught about PER writing. That, and emphatically, damn near nobody reads anymore. Consequently, writing skills are becoming atrocious as a whole. Before someone gets defensive, look in your house and tell me if your TV is bigger than your bookshelf. (52" doesn't hold many books anyways) Then there's also the things mentioned under the guise of honesty in this forum, which are just human nature. Like being scored based on non-confrontational supervisors, or mea culpa, etc.
Bringing me (windedly) to my example scenarios.
Cpl Flange Bulatron is an LCIS tech in a combat arms unit (No, not necessarily personal experience ). He frequently disappears into the coffee area / smoke pit with combat arms members who came into the shop for various bits of work. It is rarely the same person coming each time, often a different person every time. His peers however, very rarely have something negative to say about him personally or professionally.
Supervisor A - an "At arms length" Sgt who doesn't socialize with the troops very often (for whatever reason), likes to keep discipline and expects his junior NCOs to take charge of their own careers by simply grinding out the boring tasks until it is your time to be promoted. Thats how he did it, and his Sgt, and his Sgt and it works.
Attitude: Work at work. Play at home.
Peer review: Fantastic Sergeant.
Supervisor B - "One of the boys" Sgt who is always just as keen to do 'PT at your own place', go for a beer, or try to keep his troops 'tasked' during ridiculous parades.
Attitude: We're all just dudes at work. Ptes and BGens alike.
Peer review: Fantastic Sergeant.
Super A is going to write Bulatron up as a slacker. He's always in the smoke pit, rarely grinding out the 522's on the 'Broken' shelf. Doesn't go above and beyond. When he's not there, he's slacking away in some corner hiding, while someone else does the work. His brag sheet isn't even that spectacular.
Super B is going to write him as a star. He's going to take the time to notice that Cpl Bulatron is actually helping the members learn the equipment they're using, how not to break it again, and how to avoid the fecal floods from their own CoC with the maintenance of the eqpt. Also, he'd notice that our good Cpl here is generally out helping the boys on weekends fix cars, pick people up from the airport etc - none of which is brag sheet material, but still good stuff. When work is slow, he's trying to make it through the ungodly boring demon that is OPME reading materials.
Now, is it a lack of honesty on anyones part? Not at all. Is it something wrong with the PER system? Hardly. Some people will relate to Sgt A, some to Sgt B, or to any other of the infinite combinations of personalities.
Are there flaws? Absolutely. Is there any black & white changes that can be made? Not in my opinion. I think the closest to dealing with these differences is the potential column. Those are a long way away from a "standard", though. A psychology student would say your marks in the potential column are a projection of the markers ability to see himself, or the traits he admires in you. (Not necessarily traits that motivate or "lead" everyone.)
Like I said, merely food for thought. I'm clicking Post before I think of something else to write.
Lastly, I'm well aware of the majority of literary rules I'm breaking (Edited after reading post, got about 3 lines in and started noticing a lot of sentences beginning with conjuctions). Feel free to point them out anyways.
Questions / Food for thought. Although the PER system isn't perfect, its actually pretty good. As people have said, you're not going to make everyone happy in an organization as large as the CF by any stretch. I also don't believe any promotion-into-position system could really work unless the whole remar and manning pool numbers were a lot more adhered to. Seriously, does anyone (especially in tech trades) actually work in the position their job code describes? Few people I know do. So, on paper, people could fight for my position, then get into my shop and learn their 'Real position'.
Secondly, I read that a LOT of people gripe about honesty, or even universal honesty as far as the scoring process goes - but I believe there are a lot more 'big machine' issues that come out long before honesty. For starters, its abstract, so each individual PER is unique by universal law (butterfly effect) -- those who wrote mine were taught how to by different people than those who write yours. In passing conversations about PLQs, there is a HUGE variance on emphasis and even skills taught about PER writing. That, and emphatically, damn near nobody reads anymore. Consequently, writing skills are becoming atrocious as a whole. Before someone gets defensive, look in your house and tell me if your TV is bigger than your bookshelf. (52" doesn't hold many books anyways) Then there's also the things mentioned under the guise of honesty in this forum, which are just human nature. Like being scored based on non-confrontational supervisors, or mea culpa, etc.
Bringing me (windedly) to my example scenarios.
Cpl Flange Bulatron is an LCIS tech in a combat arms unit (No, not necessarily personal experience ). He frequently disappears into the coffee area / smoke pit with combat arms members who came into the shop for various bits of work. It is rarely the same person coming each time, often a different person every time. His peers however, very rarely have something negative to say about him personally or professionally.
Supervisor A - an "At arms length" Sgt who doesn't socialize with the troops very often (for whatever reason), likes to keep discipline and expects his junior NCOs to take charge of their own careers by simply grinding out the boring tasks until it is your time to be promoted. Thats how he did it, and his Sgt, and his Sgt and it works.
Attitude: Work at work. Play at home.
Peer review: Fantastic Sergeant.
Supervisor B - "One of the boys" Sgt who is always just as keen to do 'PT at your own place', go for a beer, or try to keep his troops 'tasked' during ridiculous parades.
Attitude: We're all just dudes at work. Ptes and BGens alike.
Peer review: Fantastic Sergeant.
Super A is going to write Bulatron up as a slacker. He's always in the smoke pit, rarely grinding out the 522's on the 'Broken' shelf. Doesn't go above and beyond. When he's not there, he's slacking away in some corner hiding, while someone else does the work. His brag sheet isn't even that spectacular.
Super B is going to write him as a star. He's going to take the time to notice that Cpl Bulatron is actually helping the members learn the equipment they're using, how not to break it again, and how to avoid the fecal floods from their own CoC with the maintenance of the eqpt. Also, he'd notice that our good Cpl here is generally out helping the boys on weekends fix cars, pick people up from the airport etc - none of which is brag sheet material, but still good stuff. When work is slow, he's trying to make it through the ungodly boring demon that is OPME reading materials.
Now, is it a lack of honesty on anyones part? Not at all. Is it something wrong with the PER system? Hardly. Some people will relate to Sgt A, some to Sgt B, or to any other of the infinite combinations of personalities.
Are there flaws? Absolutely. Is there any black & white changes that can be made? Not in my opinion. I think the closest to dealing with these differences is the potential column. Those are a long way away from a "standard", though. A psychology student would say your marks in the potential column are a projection of the markers ability to see himself, or the traits he admires in you. (Not necessarily traits that motivate or "lead" everyone.)
Like I said, merely food for thought. I'm clicking Post before I think of something else to write.
Lastly, I'm well aware of the majority of literary rules I'm breaking (Edited after reading post, got about 3 lines in and started noticing a lot of sentences beginning with conjuctions). Feel free to point them out anyways.