Hamas invaded Israel 2023

[Kirkhill]

Rishi shares the CFINTCOM appreciation

Rishi Sunak: UK intelligence shows Israel was not responsible for Gaza hospital attack

Blast caused by rocket fired from within Gaza, says PM as he warns media outlets that 'misreporting' of incident has had a 'negative impact'

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Kirkhill]

How Labour is tearing itself apart over Gaza

Sir Keir Starmer backtracks on his own position in face of a rebellion as one in six of his party's MPs call on Israel to stop bombings

www.telegraph.co.uk

And the Liberal Party of Canada are not the only Progressives struggling to keep it together.

 

[The Bread Guy]

US advises Israel hold off on Gaza invasion, keeps Hamas mediator Qatar in loop -sources

The United States has advised Israel to hold off on a ground assault in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip and is keeping Qatar - a broker with the Palestinian militants - apprised of those talks, sources said, as Washington tries to free more hostages and prepare for a possible spillover in a...

www.reuters.com

And the usual initial report caveats apply ...

Hamas considers fuel-for-hostage exchange for 50 dual nationals | Al Bawaba

ALBAWABA- In a significant development, Israeli media reports that, according to a source familiar with the negotiations, Hamas is considering releasing

www.albawaba.com

 

[Remius]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/jama-ndp-caucus-1.7005056

And kicked…

 

[gryphonv]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/jama-ndp-caucus-1.7005056

And kicked…

"Ms. Jama maintains the post was reckless and malicious," the statement said. "Ms. Jama will not tolerate Premier Ford's attempts to tarnish her reputation in such a public manner."

I love that statement. I'm sorry Ma'am, your own action's tarnished your reputation in a public manner. I'd actually love for her to take it to court, will be a gong show for her.

Now I wonder when the Ontario CUPE president is going to get the boot.

 

[Kirkhill]

And in the US - the Democrats

WATCH: Ilhan Omar breaks down in fit of rage aimed at Biden, Democrat leadership over support for Israel

The "Squad's" Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., broke down in a rage against President Biden and Democrat Party leadership over their support for Israel amid its war with Hamas.

www.foxnews.com

Rep. Rashida Tlaib draws fire for not apologizing for saying Israel caused Gaza hospital blast

Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., and Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., said that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion in Gaza despite Israel denying fault.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/21/rashida-tlaib-israel-hamas-war-debbie-wasserman-schultz-acostanr.cnn

How does this get fixed?

 

[Remius]

And in the US - the Democrats

WATCH: Ilhan Omar breaks down in fit of rage aimed at Biden, Democrat leadership over support for Israel

The "Squad's" Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., broke down in a rage against President Biden and Democrat Party leadership over their support for Israel amid its war with Hamas.

www.foxnews.com

Rep. Rashida Tlaib draws fire for not apologizing for saying Israel caused Gaza hospital blast

Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., and Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., said that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion in Gaza despite Israel denying fault.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/21/rashida-tlaib-israel-hamas-war-debbie-wasserman-schultz-acostanr.cnn

How does this get fixed?

I guess in the US, elections or fielding and supporting a rival democratic candidate in the primaries?

 

[Kirkhill]

I guess in the US, elections or fielding and supporting a rival democratic candidate in the primaries?

I was thinking more broadly...

A lot of angry people with right on their side.

 

[Brad Sallows]

A lot of people really putting their foot in. Good to know who they are. Keep it rolling.

 

[Lumber]

I was thinking more broadly...

A lot of angry people with right on their side.

The way of the 812th of the Korean Marine Corp!

 

[Kirkhill]

A lot of people really putting their foot in. Good to know who they are. Keep it rolling.

There is that to be said. A degree of catharsis. A lot of people not hiding their feelings.

 

[OldSolduer]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/jama-ndp-caucus-1.7005056

And kicked…

To the curb. I have a descriptor for her that most women in Canada would not tolerate but most people in Australia seem to use it regularly.

Suffice it to say she is reaping what she has sown and serves her damn well right.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I gather the IDF screened some of Hamas's homemade videos to an audience of journalists.

Be interesting to see who is still digging their hole after some of that gets more coverage.

 

[Eaglelord17]

It is very interesting watching what happens when nations/states start being made up of vastly different ethnic groups with competing visions of the world.

Small numbers of immigrants not of the dominant cultures will be absorbed/adapt to the dominant group. Large numbers do not. The ‘mosaic’ we have (instead of a melting pot) comes with a lot of weaknesses. This particular crisis/issue really outlines the difference.

A lot of viewpoints that would have been completely taboo 40 years ago now have some teeth behind them (supporting Hamas for example), still no where near a majority, but something for us to consider for immigration purposes and how we want our country to evolve.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It is very interesting watching what happens when nations/states start being made up of vastly different ethnic groups with competing visions of the world.

Small numbers of immigrants not of the dominant cultures will be absorbed/adapt to the dominant group. Large numbers do not. The ‘mosaic’ we have (instead of a melting pot) comes with a lot of weaknesses. This particular crisis/issue really outlines the difference.

A lot of viewpoints that would have been completely taboo 40 years ago now have some teeth behind them (supporting Hamas for example), still no where near a majority, but something for us to consider for immigration purposes and how we want our country to evolve.

I saw it first hand finishing high school and starting university back in Windsor in 1988-93 when the civil war in Yugoslavia started. Friends I went through high school/uni with who were Croat, Serb, Bosnian, Macedonian, Slovene, all born in Canada, all teammates on the same high school/uni soccer, football, basketball, track teams, all boyfriend/girlfriend, all classmates, all neighbours - all torn apart by the Yugoslav War. I knew people, born and raised in Canada, who never had set foot in the old Yugoslavia, join the Croatian Army at the urging of their parents to 'defend their homeland'. It was incredibly sad to watch friends no longer talk to each other, I had to make choices some weekends on who I would hang out it because others wouldn't hang out with me that weekend as a result. Unreal.
We are TOTALLY naïve to think that things would be ANY different 30yrs later.
We all in Canada are living within one great big experiment, mass immigration from non-European, non-Judo/Christian countries, with the expectations that these individuals will leave all of their baggage behind, within their originating countries and bring none of it with them here. Why? Few of the ex-Yugoslav immigrants did in my example above. Its completely unrealistic and childes to believe that this will happen. The result is that chaos will reign and the silent majority will be held captive and hostage.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well, well, well - let's see if this proposal gains in traction. If it does, there will need to be ALOT of elbow twisting on Trudeau for Canada to be involved.

Also on Tuesday, French President Emmanuel Macron proposed expanding an existing coalition that fights IS to also combat Palestinian militant group Hamas.
“This is why France is ready for the international coalition against Daesh, in which we are engaged for our operation in Iraq and Syria, to also fight against Hamas,” he said during a press briefing alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to a CNBC translation.
“Hamas is a terrorist group, where the very objective is the destruction of the Israeli state,” Macron said Tuesday.

“I propose to our international partners, I mentioned it to you this morning, that we can build a regional and international coalition to fight against the terrorist group that threatens all of us.”

Macron reiterated that the battle against Hamas must be fought “without mercy, but not without rules,” urging no civilian deaths and respect for international laws governing warfare.

White House calls Iran complicit in conflict; Biden says aid isn't getting to Gaza fast enough

Hospitals in Gaza have warned they would have to shut down if more fuel doesn't arrive. Other supplies, such as water, medicine and food continue to run low.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

And in the US - the Democrats

WATCH: Ilhan Omar breaks down in fit of rage aimed at Biden, Democrat leadership over support for Israel

The "Squad's" Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., broke down in a rage against President Biden and Democrat Party leadership over their support for Israel amid its war with Hamas.

www.foxnews.com

Rep. Rashida Tlaib draws fire for not apologizing for saying Israel caused Gaza hospital blast

Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., and Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., said that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion in Gaza despite Israel denying fault.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/10/21/rashida-tlaib-israel-hamas-war-debbie-wasserman-schultz-acostanr.cnn

How does this get fixed?

I think the solution is distasteful to those who have bought into the "mosaic" and multiculturalism theories.

 

[dimsum]

I think the solution is distasteful to those who have bought into the "mosaic" and multiculturalism theories.

It’s distasteful to those who can’t (or won’t, due to votes or other reasons) disambiguate an organization / party vs an ethnic group.

 

[Halifax Tar]

It’s distasteful to those who can’t (or won’t, due to votes or other reasons) disambiguate an organization / party vs an ethnic group.

I'm sure there is some validity to your point.

The support for Palestine and Hamas rally's I have seen throughout the western world since this kicked off leads to believe that the critical mass has been breached and we have probably brought in too many people who do not align with our position in the world, and I would call into question their loyalty to Canada.

How many bad apples spoils a bunch ?

 

[Spencer100]

I saw it first hand finishing high school and starting university back in Windsor in 1988-93 when the civil war in Yugoslavia started. Friends I went through high school/uni with who were Croat, Serb, Bosnian, Macedonian, Slovene, all born in Canada, all teammates on the same high school/uni soccer, football, basketball, track teams, all boyfriend/girlfriend, all classmates, all neighbours - all torn apart by the Yugoslav War. I knew people, born and raised in Canada, who never had set foot in the old Yugoslavia, join the Croatian Army at the urging of their parents to 'defend their homeland'. It was incredibly sad to watch friends no longer talk to each other, I had to make choices some weekends on who I would hang out it because others wouldn't hang out with me that weekend as a result. Unreal.
We are TOTALLY naïve to think that things would be ANY different 30yrs later.
We all in Canada are living within one great big experiment, mass immigration from non-European, non-Judo/Christian countries, with the expectations that these individuals will leave all of their baggage behind, within their originating countries and bring none of it with them here. Why? Few of the ex-Yugoslav immigrants did in my example above. Its completely unrealistic and childes to believe that this will happen. The result is that chaos will reign and the silent majority will be held captive and hostage.

And don't forget some of the auto plants it was almost all out war on the line. Management and supervisors were at breaking up fights daily weekly.