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Election 2011

I asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.  She said she wanted to be Prime Minister of Canada someday.  Both of her parents, NDP supporters, were standing there so I asked her, "If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?"
She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people."
Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the NDP Party!"


"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I told her.  I continued, "But you don't have to wait until you're Prime Minister to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."
She thought that over for a few seconds then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I smiled and said, "Welcome to the Conservative Party."  Her parents still aren't speaking to me.
 
Wonderful results and interesting outcomes.

The NDP is now a tail to be wagged by the Quebec dog.  Layton better have lots of poopy bags handy.
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The Liberals will go through civil war.

The Bloc have been terminated with prejudice.

The Greens have a token member in parliament but had to devote their entire national effort to win and in doing so dropped 40% of their vote count - and taxpayer subsidy to do so.

The Harper conservatives can now begin to govern with gusto.

 
Saturday, I talked to a lady from PEI who was visiting Alberta.  She wondered why there were so few signs and ads compared to back home.  The only ads that seemed annoyingly persistent were the NDP on Edmonton TV.  My riding usually goes about 80 % Conservative and I doubt the local Conservatives spent more than $5 - 10,000.  They obviously hammered the swing ridings elsewhere in Canada.

A few partisan things need to be done right off the bat.  The contempt of Parliament thing needs reversal.  The CBC needs gutting.  The long gun registry needs trashing.  Government grants to political parties need to go and the law needs to be changed to allow internal transfers of funds that caught the Conservatives but none of the other guilty parties.
 
Haletown said:
Wonderful results and interesting outcomes.

The NDP is now a tail to be wagged by the Quebec dog.  Layton better have lots of poopy bags handy.
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The Liberals will go through civil war.

The Bloc have been terminated with prejudice.

The Greens have a token member in parliament but had to devote their entire national effort to win and in doing so dropped 40% of their vote count - and taxpayer subsidy to do so.

The Harper conservatives can now begin to govern with gusto.

Ahhh. You just gotta love it when things come together.  ;D
 
E.R. Campbell said:
2. The ThreeHundredEight.com seat projection model was too conservative. It failed to predict the vote splitting which, I am pretty certain, greatly benefited the Conservatives.

Infanteer said:
Secondly, the Conservative numbers have remained relatively stable at the 35-40% - people who vote Conservative are still going to vote Conservative....

Despite all the political excitement around the rise of the NDP and the immolation of the Libs/BQ, diffusing the vote on either side of the spectrum cannot be viewed as a good thing for the parties occupying it.

I should get into the political blogging business.  ;D
 
I followed ThreeHundredEight.com closely, posting their projections on an almost daily basis.

Here are graphs of their aggregations of polls - which are only as inaccurate as the original polls themselves, and the seat projections based on those aggregations.

As I went to sleep last night I told my girlfriend that "I learnt two things tonight. One: opinion polls are always wrong and two: only 20% of canadians post comments on the cbc.ca website and 95% of those are Liberals.

Honestly I slept better last night knowing that the CPC was at the helm with a majority government, especially since Saturday morning I report for work.


asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.  She said she wanted to be Prime Minister of Canada someday.  Both of her parents, NDP supporters, were standing there so I asked her, "If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?"
She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people."
Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the NDP Party!"


"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I told her.  I continued, "But you don't have to wait until you're Prime Minister to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."
She thought that over for a few seconds then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I smiled and said, "Welcome to the Conservative Party."  Her parents still aren't speaking to me.

Love it! Such a noble cause to talk about until it comes time to get it done. My girlfriend doesn't follow politics, but even she had to comment during Jacks speech "Is he actually saying anything?"
 
The culture war is over... the Liberals have lost.


I've had great fun this morning reading the comments on the CBC and Globe websites. The leftists are fit to be tied.
 
Well, I may as well join in on the bandwagon......

My nomination for 'least likely to be missed' after being defeated -- Ujjal Dosanjh.  ;D
 
Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail, is Jeffrey Simpson's 'takeaway' from yesterday's election with my comments following each 'point:'

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/an-abundance-of-teachable-moments/article2007587/
An abundance of teachable moments

JEFFREY SIMPSON

From Tuesday's Globe and Mail
Last updated Tuesday, May. 03, 2011

What did the last five years, capped by Monday night’s election results, teach us and the political parties?

For starters, negative television attack ads work. They will now become a fixture, if they are not already, of Conservative Party politics. Since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, other parties might follow along.

The intimidating attack ads directed by the Conservatives against Liberal leaders Stéphane Dion and Michael Ignatieff framed them for Canadians before they could frame themselves. The ads worked, in other words, and they will be used again. Their use, in turn, showed the importance of fundraising, which means mobilizing the party’s base to give money all the time. Fundraising means playing on fear of the other party.

Valid points. I don't really like attack ads but I agree they are here to stay. I feared that the last minute, scurrilous, sneak attack on Jack Layton would backfire and work for him – and it might have but it did not hurt the Tories as badly as it might have done.

Second, a Conservative government under Stephen Harper that was in some respects more right-wing than any previous conservative government ultimately produced a more polarized electorate. To oppose the Harper government, non-Conservatives swung not to the traditionally more moderate Liberals, but to the untested and more left-wing New Democrats. Opposites do not attract, they repel, which explains in part the determination of those who did not like the Harper government to opt for the party least like the Conservatives.

It is not just the Canadian electorate that is so polarized; we have seen very similar things in America, Australia and Britain. We have all imported aspects of the US culture wars, which go back to the mid 1960s. It is silly to blame Stephen Harper for Johnson vs. Goldwater, but Simpson doesn't much like Harper, so ...

Third, Mr. Harper got what he wanted almost as much as an overwhelming victory: an overwhelming Liberal defeat. Not just the defeat but the destruction of the Liberal Party was Mr. Harper’s political objective, because he believed the Liberals’ disappearance would pave the way to a long period of Conservative dominance.

Mr. Harper believes that Canada is fundamentally not a social democratic country but a conservative one. To put matters another way, in a straight-up fight between conservative and left-wing forces, conservatives will win most of the time. The big, sprawling Liberal Party got in the way of this right-left showdown (and a left-wing surge, until this campaign). The Liberals’ demise spells long-term good news for the Conservatives.

It is too soon to tell if the Grits are about to disappear, but I agree that is Harper's aim.

Fourth, Quebec political nationalism remains consequential for Canadian federal politics. In the post-Trudeau era, the party that appeals most directly to Quebec nationalism has the best chance of winning in the province, as Brian Mulroney did in 1984 and 1988, the Bloc Québécois thereafter, and now the NDP, with its promise to reopen the Constitution, give more power to Quebec, and to allow Quebec’s language law to trump the Official Languages Act.

Québec nationalism is a snake, best not touched. I have often said that the Canadian national political party that learns to win (and govern) without Québec – actually without many Québec members – but manages to serve Québec's best interest while serving the broader national interest (in other words governs  without Québec, not against Québec) will win. See, also, my oft repeated “new Canada/old Canada” arguments. In short: Layton is welcome to Québec, for now. 

That the NDP was not the Harper Conservatives, centralist Liberals or has-been Bloc Québécois was a key factor in the party’s success in Quebec, as were its promises to spend more on social programs and do more for the environment. But the NDP’s blatant nationalist appeal was the key difference between this election for the NDP and the previous ones.

Agreed, and I expect they will pay a price for that – sooner, rather than later.

Fifth, ordinary people seldom dislike parties and leaders as much as their political opponents do. The Liberals thought Canadians in the majority really disliked the Prime Minister. They therefore directed heavy fire against his controlling style: prorogation, contempt of Parliament, media control, lack of access, generalized sourness. These attacks counted for the core Harper-haters, but did little for Canadians who do not follow politics closely, or care much about government. Lessons: Canadians are so cynical about politics that many of them just expect that this is the way democracy works.

Valid observation, invalid conclusion. Canadians are not cynical about politics; they are simply bored with the procedural slight of hand practised by both parties. The big lesson here is for the media: Canadians do not care about the things that matter to the Ottawa press gallery.

Sixth, sunny ways are usually more appealing that dark ones. In a contest between a dour Prime Minister and an academic Leader of the Opposition, Jack Layton seemed like the guy people could relate to. He rose during the campaign in popular appeal, whereas Mr. Harper stalled and Mr. Ignatieff declined. Mind you, Mr. Layton presented himself in the same way against Mr. Harper and Stéphane Dion in 2008 and didn’t go very far. Lesson: Timing and circumstance are hugely important.

True enough; Layton ran a good campaign – trading, only a wee bit shamelessly, on his obvious fortitude. It is hard not to like him, as a person. Harper, too, ran a good campaign in the last three days – when it really counted. But, back to the top: it was those attack ads that slowed Ignatieff – he was stopped by a neatly timed question about attendance in the HoC from Jack Layton – and that allowed Layton to campaign so effectively against the Liberals. The big, Big, BIG story isn't the Conservative majority, it is the Liberal/NDP battle royal – which is far from over.

Seventh, the huge advantages of being in power for five years – massive spending on programs and advertising, almost complete policy freedom, manic message control, a sometimes weak opposition, vastly better fundraising, policies directed blatantly at narrow swaths of voters – did slightly increase the Conservatives’ share of the popular vote. They won many seats because the NDP took votes from the Liberals, thereby allowing the Conservatives to win three-way races.

That the Conservatives, despite these advantages, have not become a more dominant party, means Mr. Harper, with his style and tactics, turns off more Canadians than he attracts. But the collapse of the Liberals allowed his Conservatives to win their coveted majority.

The last but is just sour grapes.
 
Baden  Guy said:
I asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.  She said she wanted to be Prime Minister of Canada someday.  Both of her parents, NDP supporters, were standing there so I asked her, "If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?"
She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people."
Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the NDP Party!"


"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I told her.  I continued, "But you don't have to wait until you're Prime Minister to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."
She thought that over for a few seconds then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I smiled and said, "Welcome to the Conservative Party."  Her parents still aren't speaking to me.

Just an Awesome post!!!  :rofl:  I hope you don't mind if I use that.  ;D
 
Journeyman said:
Well, I may as well join in on the bandwagon......

My nomination for 'least likely to be missed' after being defeated -- Ujjal Dosanjh.  ;D

Marlene Jennings?
Gerard Kennedy?
Mark Holland?
Joe Volpe?

Stiff competition, but I'll go with Ujjal as well.  A particularly slimy piece of work.
 
Best guess for the number of months before Quebecers turn on Jacko and his merry band of Socialists  . . .

I thinking 12 - 16 max.
 
I went with Dosanjh because it would be simply un-Canadian to say, during the Stanley Cup playoffs, that Ken Dryden (Liberal, York Centre: DEFEATED), went the same way as his former team-mates, the Canadiens    ;D
 
Haletown said:
Marlene Jennings?
Gerard Kennedy?
Mark Holland?
Joe Volpe?

Stiff competition, but I'll go with Ujjal as well.  A particularly slimy piece of work.

The next fun exercise is going to be finding out what the retirement payouts for all those defeated liberals is going to be.....
 
Ujjal Dosanjh. Very happy he is gone. You have to admit though he has a heck of a immigrant success story.

Can't wait to read the buyout and pension figures.
 
The Globe and Mail reports that Ignatieff has resigned as Liberal Party Leader saying, "The only thing Canadians like less than a loser is a sore loser and I go out of politics with my head held high."
 
E.R. Campbell said:
The Globe and Mail reports that Ignatieff has resigned as Liberal Party Leader saying, "The only thing Canadians like less than a loser is a sore loser and I go out of politics with my head held high."

Inevitable.  In 2006 Ingatieff was first choice of 29% of Liberals.  Mind you Dion was the first choice of only 18%.  I think the big mistake was annointing Iggy instead of holding a leadership convention.  I always have perceived something off about Iggy and have accused him of being the child actor who played Eddie Munster.  He just doesn't seem to have widespread appeal.
 
Thinking a bit more on the significance of this election . . .  it puts a stake through the cold, dead heart of Trudeaupia, never for it to rise again and corrupt our nation and politics.

That is a very, very good thing. 
 
Haletown said:
Best guess for the number of months before Quebecers turn on Jacko and his merry band of Socialists  . . .

I thinking 12 - 16 max.

Wasn't there a right-wing party being formed in Quebec? If they is any dissatisfaction with Jacko, may be we will see people drifting over to the right?
 
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