CMMA - replacing the CP140 Aurora

[GR66]

Their aircraft doesn’t even exist in the real world, so yeah, I guess it is ”fuel efficient”.

Doesn't use any fuel at all! Green MPA for the win!

 

[MilEME09]

Their aircraft doesn’t even exist in the real world, so yeah, I guess it is ”fuel efficient”.

How about we turn this around:

”Hey, Bombardier, why don’t you deliver your prototype aircraft to Greenwood, next week, and prove how much better it is?”

Oh that’s right- BECAUSE IT IS VAPOURWARE!

Yeah, exactly, put your money where your mouth is, why should tax payers pay for your R&D, which will deliver an aircraft we need now, in 15-20 years

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Correct. DSCA advises that Congress has approved the purchase of all the controlled goods listed in the Notification…it indicates an impending activity. DSCA also provided such notification just prior to the CF-35 announcement…and the C-17…and the CH-147F…and…

If you check other announcements of FMS sales they all start out with " The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to xxx"

 

[KevinB]

If you check other announcements of FMS sales they all start out with " The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to xxx"

I’m pretty sure one can put paid the P-8A acquisition for Canada.
Bombardier can scream to the heavens, but vaporware doesn’t keep you even at the kids table.

 

[Good2Golf]

If you check other announcements of FMS sales they all start out with " The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to xxx"

Sure.

Do you have an example of such a DSCA notification that Canada did not implement?

 

[GK .Dundas]

I’m pretty sure one can put paid the P-8A acquisition for Canada.
Bombardier can scream to the heavens, but vaporware doesn’t keep you even at the kids table.

Given their past behavior it won't stop the bitching . It really is like dealing with an over entitled 3 year old at times.

 

[dimsum]

Our platform not only burns 30 per cent less fuel

Well if the aircraft is 50% smaller...

 

[Good2Golf]

Well if the aircraft is 50% smaller...

a.k.a. 40% less payload efficient…

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Well if the aircraft is 50% smaller...

The aircraft is infinitely smaller. It simply does not exist.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

The aircraft is infinitely smaller. It simply does not exist.

Ah yes, the LaCroix method of aircraft design:

The essence of nothing to remind you that those features are a thing missing from your platform...

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The aircraft is infinitely smaller. It simply does not exist.

That's our super secret counter measure against submarine base SAM's......

 

[KevinB]

That's our super secret counter measure against submarine base SAM's......

Careful that will be in their literature next.

 

[FSTO]

Forlorn Hope

 

[Rifleman62]

Needs a white band wrapped around the fuselage to truly represent the traditional Forlorn Hope.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Forlorn Hope
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Maybe I’m getting old and senile; am I the only one who sees these silly Bombardier things and their mind starts playing the “she’s a witch/what else floats” scene from Monty Phython?

 

[Spencer100]

Back to the P-8 for a minute. The P-8I has a MAD boom. Is that something the RCAF needs? Are we just looking at the standard P-8 for five eyes? Or is there any more Canadianized content?

Oh does the modern Anti Submarine hunter need MAD?

 

[Good2Golf]

Quantum Magnetometers may make MAD more relevant than it has been of late. That may be something for all P-8A operators to consider in the future.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Back to the P-8 for a minute. The P-8I has a MAD boom. Is that something the RCAF needs? Are we just looking at the standard P-8 for five eyes? Or is there any more Canadianized content?

Oh does the modern Anti Submarine hunter need MAD?

Honestly, just buy the baseline USN model. If they upgrade; we upgrade.

 

[Good2Golf]

Honestly, just buy the baseline USN model. If they upgrade; we upgrade.

Step 1, for sure.

Step 2, lead the group and support some recovery of reputation.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Back to the P-8 for a minute. The P-8I has a MAD boom. Is that something the RCAF needs? Are we just looking at the standard P-8 for five eyes? Or is there any more Canadianized content?

Oh does the modern Anti Submarine hunter need MAD?

The better question is “will RCAF P-8s use HAAWC if we purchase P-8?

My personal opinion; if you can get MAD, get it.