Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ

[Furniture]

Where was the holdup? Legal?

I wasn't speaking directly about this contract, more about keeping the CPFs are the priority in general, until the RCDs arrive.

 

[dapaterson]

I wasn't speaking directly about this contract, more about keeping the CPFs are the priority in general, until the RCDs arrive.

If the RCDs are delayed, it's probably a gravy related issue.

 

[Furniture]

If the RCDs are delayed, it's probably a gravy related issue.

I plan to lean into the re-use of the acronym, just because it's so silly.

It's as if the navy exists in its own bubble, and doesn't know the C Army guys are one floor down.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I plan to lean into the re-use of the acronym, just because it's so silly.

It's as if the navy exists in its own bubble, and doesn't know the C Army guys are one floor down.

They both do that.

 

[Underway]

I plan to lean into the re-use of the acronym, just because it's so silly.

It's as if the navy exists in its own bubble, and doesn't know the C Army guys are one floor down.

Go on the Government acronym website. I guarantee there are probably 15 more uses of RCD on there.

Maybe we should be calling them the Frasier class though. But I suppose it's a Canadian tradition to call something three names. The program name (CSC, CPF, JSS, AOPS), the ship class name (River, City, Naval Hero), and then the first of class (Fraiser, Halifax, Protecteur, HDW).

What seems to end up in practice mostly is the easily recognized and spoken shorthand. River class will probably be it going forward, city class stopped because they named all the rest of the ships after cities so HFX class stuck, JSS seems stuck as it's easier to say than Protecteur, and AOPS is stuck for the same reason though a lot of folks so say Harry Dewolf.

 

[dapaterson]

I for one look forward to the Queenston class entering service with the RCN.

 

[Underway]

I for one look forward to the Queenston class entering service with the RCN.

I was looking at the difference between light carriers, escort carriers, LPH, and LPD's last night ducks for cover

 

[Underway]

@Good2Golf check out this video. Timestamp about 220 for the radar talk. Polarization diversity is a really interesting concept I didn't know about and is interesting that it's unique to the Spy 7.

 

[Rainbow1910]

Lockheed Martin is really getting their moneys worth out of that ancient CSC model huh?

 

[Underway]

Lockheed Martin is really getting their moneys worth out of that ancient CSC model huh?

Agreed. They could probably afford to 3d print a different superstructure. At this point even the 127mm is a different gun!

 

[Lumber]

Agreed. They could probably afford to 3d print a different superstructure. At this point even the 127mm is a different gun!

At this point, with the weapon and sensor fit seemingly to be changing every few months, they probably see it as a wasted effort.

 

[Good2Golf]

@Good2Golf check out this video. Timestamp about 220 for the radar talk. Polarization diversity is a really interesting concept I didn't know about and is interesting that it's unique to the Spy 7.

Interesting…tx for the link, UW! multi-mode linear, circular and spiral polarization is pretty cool…I don’t think the SPY-6 can do that. It was an offshoot of the ABM requirement space, and would be interesting to see how it’s integrated into the RCN’s EW game.

 

[Underway]

For those who don't know different polarization types allow for a number of things.

Precipitation detection or compensation
Environment detection or compensation (ionosphere for example)
Clutter management
Range speed altitude information
motion analysis
Target identification
Target discrimination
Ice navigation
Countering Stealth
changing polarization to avoid jamming/spoofing.

If you can change polarization you can rapidly tune your radar for situations. This could be game changing or just a really useful feature. We'll have to get it into our hands to find out!

 

[DBNSG]

For those who don't know different polarization types allow for a number of things.

Precipitation detection or compensation
Environment detection or compensation (ionosphere for example)
Clutter management
Range speed altitude information
motion analysis
Target identification
Target discrimination
Ice navigation
Countering Stealth
changing polarization to avoid jamming/spoofing.

If you can change polarization you can rapidly tune your radar for situations. This could be game changing or just a really useful feature. We'll have to get it into our hands to find out!

Is that Lockmart Guinea Pigging Canada? Proof of concept and the risk?

 

[Lumber]

Is that Lockmart Guinea Pigging Canada? Proof of concept and the risk?

No, the radar is a derivative of an existing radar that is being used by the US as a land based ballistic missile defence system, and is also being installed on a classes of new Japanese and Spanish warships.

 

[Underway]

No, the radar is a derivative of an existing radar that is being used by the US as a land based ballistic missile defence system, and is also being installed on a classes of new Japanese and Spanish warships.

Maybe the new German ones as well.