2022 CPC Leadership Discussion: Et tu Redeux
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Halifax Tar
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With our broken seat distribution being unpopular in Ont is a huge detriment.
He’s still leading in the polls and broke through the GTA last time. So we’d have to see how that could translate nationally. But his messy thing with Franco Ontariens didn’t endear to Quebec. Mind you he backtracked but it did damage him a bit.
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Does he Parler Vous ?
Not that I can tell. He was taking lessons but stopped during the pandemic. Winning without QC is hard but it is possible and has happened before.
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My prediction is that Ford will go down in flames, aided by the federal Liberals. Trudeau would love a provincially red Ontario.
After he's burned at the stake, as articulated above, his reputation in ON will be tarnished and his electability nullified. The federal Cons won't touch him.
Possible yes. I saw a few Doug Fraud signs at the protest.
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Del Duca is a bigger lame duck than Ignatieff was. He's only getting support from the blind faithful, he's been invisible and his legacy with Wynne will come out in the campaign.
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There are all sorts of publications by political scientists and pundits which describe how having the same party in power in both Ottawa and Ontario often creates difficulties for both. One interesting one from last week I think posited that one of the reasons is that neither party has a large enough 'backroom A-team' to manage both at the same time.
I'm not naive enough to try and predict how Ontario's next election will turn out, but I don't think Ford has enough traction federally.
I'm not naive enough to try and predict how Ontario's next election will turn out, but I don't think Ford has enough traction federally.
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Tasha Kheiriddin: Erin O'Toole's leadership is over
Conservatives need to take a long hard look at themselves, what they stand for, who’s leading their parade, and whose company they keep
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Tasha Kheiriddin: Erin O'Toole's leadership is over
Conservatives need to take a long hard look at themselves, what they stand for, who’s leading their parade, and whose company they keep
Interesting.
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The way things are going my main question is where they will find the eight people to lead all the dissident parties that will split off.
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If reasonably intelligent people, let’s call them Blue Liberals, who most-likely had moved to the LPC because the CPC was policy-wise measurably further right than the PCs were, see that they can unplug their nose enough and rejoin the PC party, knowing that the farther-right CPC wouldn’t get their vote, even if a PC-CPC coalition would form Government, then the yellow-bit above may still be something acceptable to at least some of the original PC->LPC transferees.
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The CPC can't go all messiah seeking like the LPC of the 00s did, either. I think that would turn some of the people you describe (okay, me) off of them even more. Because this isn't something fixed by a leadership review/race/anointing.
If they decide to fend off Max first then we'll get something entirely different.
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Yup. I don’t know where they think they’ll get to, but an ‘anointment’ of anyone other than Ambrose at this point (so we know it won’t ne successful in the end) is going to be a mess and will likely hand Trudeau a fourth term (and probably a majority too).
I was a PC lifer until the Reform/Alliance hard-core faction brought out whatever blackmail material it had on Harper and their appreciation of the boost the PCs gave them post-merger was conveniently forgotten and MacKay never became the shared PM after Harper. We’re going to have to accept that at least for the next half decade or so, socks, hair and virtue signaling will be something we live with.
I was a PC lifer until the Reform/Alliance hard-core faction brought out whatever blackmail material it had on Harper and their appreciation of the boost the PCs gave them post-merger was conveniently forgotten and MacKay never became the shared PM after Harper. We’re going to have to accept that at least for the next half decade or so, socks, hair and virtue signaling will be something we live with.
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Yup. I don’t know where they think they’ll get to, but an ‘anointment’ of anyone other than Ambrose at this point (so we know it won’t ne successful in the end) is going to be a mess and will likely hand Trudeau a fourth term (and probably a majority too).
I was a PC lifer until the Reform/Alliance hard-core faction brought out whatever blackmail material it had on Harper and their appreciation of the boost the PCs gave them post-merger was conveniently forgotten and MacKay never became the shared PM after Harper. We’re going to have to accept that at least for the next half decade or so, socks, hair and virtue signaling will be something we live with.
Putting on my tin foil hat now...
And I have postulated this before...
What if the CPC is purposefully throwing elections now ? Leave JT and team in place, eventually their bed will be so full of shit they wont be able to lay in it anymore and completely destroy the Liberal Party.
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I don't think any federal party plays a long game like that.
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