2022 CPC Leadership Discussion: Et tu Redeux

[mariomike]

The issue isn’t PP, it’s the moronic Canadian voters.

All of them or just the ones who don't vote Conservative?

Interesting question.

Nice work ladies...

Major and Straight-Line Decline in Conservative Advantage over Past Month

[Ottawa – January 29, 2025] Approximately a month ago, following Freeland’s dramatic exit from the Liberal cabinet, the Conservatives opened up a seemingly insurmountable lead of 25 points. S…

www.ekospolitics.com

This dramatic and perhaps unprecedented movement has been focussed among women (where the Liberals now lead handily),

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I’m wondering if the Trump Idjits have time travelled back to 1945 when the USA could dictate their terms to the world.

They are the morons of the highest order.

I think the morons, south of us, are the same people that supported Biden for four years while someone else ran the WH and country, thinking it was him.

Trump is protecting his country and doing what he said he'd do. He has the support of the majority of voters to do what he's doing. It's too bad the Gnomes of Belgium don't like it. Most politicians don't like being told the truth. Especially the globalist ones in the EU.

We have the same class of morons here. The ones who kept electing our king of morons PM for 9 years while our country disintegrated around our ears.

And now those same morons are attempting to elect another globalist zealot to continue the damage the last one started.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

EKOS is bullshit. Everyone knows it's just a partisan hack polling firm. One only need look how out of step they are with all the others to show their data is flawed.
When you only poll 1000 liberals, you get EKOS results.
Most polls have some bias built in. EKOS is founded and built on bias.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

From his own lips.

Mark Carney: I’m an “elitist and a globalist” but “that’s exactly what we need”

Liberal Leadership hopeful Mark Carney admitted to being a globalist and elitist on Saturday, but added that that is exactly what Canada needs.

www.junonews.com

 

[Lumber]

From his own lips.
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Exactly!

Wait... You're being sarcastic, aren't you?

 

[Quirky]

From his own lips.

Mark Carney: I’m an “elitist and a globalist” but “that’s exactly what we need”

Liberal Leadership hopeful Mark Carney admitted to being a globalist and elitist on Saturday, but added that that is exactly what Canada needs.

www.junonews.com

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Let the man cook!

 

[RangerRay]

Count your chickens if you wish. Nothing is set in stone until the day

Of course only the right is talking about it and exposing him for what he is. Talking fact, issues and solutions. You know, realities. Things ordinary honest, hardworking Canadians care about.

The left is brainwashed and will suck up whatever sugar is cast in front of them by an elite globalist messiah. Overlooking and condoning ethics violations, outright fraud, theft of the public purse, laundering taxpayer money to syncophants and despots under the guise of foreign aid and more. I don't want those people in my party anyway. To paraphrase Lt Col Frank Slade "If it were up to me, I'd take a flamethrower to the place."

Nobody wastes their time trying to convince a Heinz pickle because you can't tell a Heinz pickle nothin.

Again, the Tories need to convince more voters than those that consume news from the right wing media universe. Using their talking points is not going to win over the voters that would vote CPC but voted for Trudeau in the past three elections. Otherwise the Tories will be back on the opposition benches.

Politics is a game of addition as well as a game of perception.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Again, the Tories need to convince more voters than those that consume news from the right wing media universe. Using their talking points is not going to win over the voters that would vote CPC but voted for Trudeau in the past three elections. Otherwise the Tories will be back on the opposition benches.

Politics is a game of addition as well as a game of perception.

Meh. We'll see election night.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

In Canada, there is a small percentage of swing voters who generally decide elections, normally the loyalists on both sides will vote their party even if they ran a goat. The LPC decided to test this theory by going beyond the goat and now realize that yes, you can actually lose loyalists. Hence the scramble for a new leader.

 

[ArmyRick]

Again, the Tories need to convince more voters than those that consume news from the right wing media universe

Rosemary Barton made Carney look like a fool. The CBC, not sure they get labelled as "right wing media universe"

I think many have said it best, the very brief honeymoon Carney experienced was over FAST.

 

[Remius]

Interesting that Carney has some sort of “honeymoon” when he isn’t actually the leader yet lol.

He’s really got some people worried…

 

[OldSolduer]

Rosemary Barton made Carney look like a fool. The CBC, not sure they get labelled as "right wing media universe"

I think many have said it best, the very brief honeymoon Carney experienced was over FAST.

I never saw this but for Rosemary to trash him one of two things happened:

1. She was possessed by Satan; or

2. She has finally seen the light.

If I were a gambler I would go with option 1. -

 

[Halifax Tar]

I never saw this but for Rosemary to trash him one of two things happened:

1. She was possessed by Satan; or

2. She has finally seen the light.

If I were a gambler I would go with option 1. -

She grilled him pretty hard. I was shocked actually. She's just about the worst one at the CBC.

He didn't do very well either. You could see he was uncomfortable with the questions. I got the feeling he may be second guessing this.

And I get why, his whole life will be gone over with a fine tooth comb. And I have a hard time believing you get his level without some skeletons in the closet.

 

[Rifleman62]

Geoff Russ: EKOS boss Frank Graves' ill advised threat to keep Pierre Poilievre from winning

The longtime Liberal supporter crosses a line

nationalpost.com

Geoff Russ: EKOS boss Frank Graves' ill advised threat to keep Pierre Poilievre from winning - NP -21 Apr 22​

Extract: “Pierre Poilievre is an acolyte of authoritarian populism. This is never healthy. You are on notice. Going to make sure you are never going to lead my country. I don’t make idle threats,” Graves wrote on Twitter last week.

This was just one of many similar statements made by Graves, most of which have since been deleted.

“These are my personal opinions which do not affect the data I collect,” says Graves. “I should express them more temperately, or keep them to myself.” Graves denies his personal bias seeps into EKOS’s polling data. “You wouldn’t be in business for the amount of time I’ve been, and been as successful as I am, if you torqued your data,” he says.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Geoff Russ: EKOS boss Frank Graves' ill advised threat to keep Pierre Poilievre from winning

The longtime Liberal supporter crosses a line

nationalpost.com

Geoff Russ: EKOS boss Frank Graves' ill advised threat to keep Pierre Poilievre from winning - NP -21 Apr 22​

Extract: “Pierre Poilievre is an acolyte of authoritarian populism. This is never healthy. You are on notice. Going to make sure you are never going to lead my country. I don’t make idle threats,” Graves wrote on Twitter last week.

This was just one of many similar statements made by Graves, most of which have since been deleted.

“These are my personal opinions which do not affect the data I collect,” says Graves. “I should express them more temperately, or keep them to myself.” Graves denies his personal bias seeps into EKOS’s polling data. “You wouldn’t be in business for the amount of time I’ve been, and been as successful as I am, if you torqued your data,” he says.

We need an election. I am tired of this back and forth, and wild polling.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

She grilled him pretty hard. I was shocked actually. She's just about the worst one at the CBC.

She was very direct and pointed in her rebuttals. He seemed to be knitting non-commital answers together on the fly

He didn't do very well either. You could see he was uncomfortable with the questions. I got the feeling he may be second guessing this.

He seems like someone offered a job they were underqualified for, accepted, and are trying desperately to hide their incompetence on.

Look familiar?

And I get why, his whole life will be gone over with a fine tooth comb. And I have a hard time believing you get his level without some skeletons in the closet.

He probably has more skeletons than McBurney Park. I don't think he has a chance in hell of hiding all of them and it will be ugly if and when they fall out.

 

[QV]

I never saw this but for Rosemary to trash him one of two things happened:

1. She was possessed by Satan; or

2. She has finally seen the light.

If I were a gambler I would go with option 1. -

I will have to watch this one. I find it very odd the CBC would take such a sudden turn away from their typical role ... I wonder what they know?

 

[Halifax Tar]

I will have to watch this one. I find it very odd the CBC would take such a sudden turn away from their typical role ... I wonder what they know?

Maybe Carney isn't CBC preferred LPC leader ?

 

[suffolkowner]

Ill await the election and some clearer policy outlines from both PP/CPC and whoever ends up leading the Liberals. Neither are in my good books, but at present no other alternative attracts my attention either

 

[Good2Golf]

Maybe Carney isn't CBC preferred LPC leader ?

Of CBC gets lumped into the massive cuts to transfer payments (provinces, incidentals…agencies like CBC, Canada Post, etc.?), then you can imagine CBC wouldn’t prefer that…