The War in Ukraine

[Grunt_031]

The only thing I can think of is that he's trying to terrify/force the Europeans into taking the lead in an opposition to Russia.

That's all I got though...

• European peacekeepers: The United States “would not object to it at all” to European peacekeeping troops being stationed in Ukraine, Trump said. “If they want to do that, that’s great. I’m all for it,” Trump said. However, he suggested the US would not participate “because we’re very far away.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-russia-ukraine-02-18-25/index.html

Russia stated they will not allow any country that is in NATO to be part of a Peacekeeping Force. Lol, How many does that leave?

 

[dapaterson]

Russia stated they will not allow any country that is in NATO to be part of a Peacekeeping Force. Lol, How many does that leave?

Belarus!

 

[Grunt_031]

Since the UK was part of Budapest Agreements and it has crumbled, they should give Ukraine a few nukes for their trouble.

 

[Grunt_031]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892181153999704214

This should be the downpayment for breach of contract from Budapest accords.

 

[suffolkowner]

This time its not the Poles being thrown to the wolves, its their brothers, the Ukrainians.

the Finns didnt make out to well either

 

[daftandbarmy]

But tell us what you really think....

 

[MrWhyt]

But tell us what you really think....

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what a cunt.

 

[suffolkowner]

But tell us what you really think....

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the man has the most delusional distant relationship with the truth

 

[RangerRay]

At least some Politicians are speaking up here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891984363350286759

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891891203911692374

https://twitter.com/x/status/1891831173984186670

That’s nice. What will they do, though? Roll over like usual?

 

[Czech_pivo]

But tell us what you really think....

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Speechless at this dripple

 

[RangerRay]

what a cunt.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[KevinB]

That’s nice. What will they do, though? Roll over like usual?

All enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC…

 

[RangerRay]

All enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC…

Wake me up when they do something. Past performance predicts future behaviour. Past performance would impress a turtle in how well they turtled to calls from inside the house.

 

[MilEME09]

imo we are seeing the US turn its backs on allies, and butter up to moscows point of view. The damage done to America's influence might take decades to recover. In the mean time, a Trump admin is now turning its back on ukraine. Tom Clancy eat your heart out, there's a Cardinal in the White house, not the Kremlin.

 

[brihard]

Why is anyone surprised at Trump completely turning his back on and betraying Ukraine? What other reasonable expectation did anyone who pays attention have? Of course Trump was going to sell them out and suck up to Putin. People have been shouting that since the presidential race started.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Somebody on another forum mused that this was the Yalta conference 2.0; Russia and the US carving up Europe with a few other marginal players scattered around for appearances.

Worse than Yalta, it seems more like the German-Soviet agreement, one gets east, one gets west…

 

[Kirkhill]

Well, actually...

FDR did require the UK to turn over a few of their overseas possessions in exchange for a few clapped out destroyers, thus taking advantage of the dire straits the Germans had put the UK into with their U-Boat fleet ...

Destroyers-for-bases deal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In fact the whole of the Empire was in play. Churchill was admant that it must survive. Roosevelt was equally adamant that it could not survive.


Roosevelt won.
Roosevelt won, or rather Marshall did.
1947 India
1956 Suez
1960 MacMillan's Winds of Change Speech
1968 Healey's Retreat from East of Suez

 

[KevinB]

Trump-Zelensky Feud: Trump Calls Zelensky A ‘Dictator’ —After Ukraine's President Criticizes Him Amid Russia Talks — Forbes

Trump lashed out against Zelensky after the Ukraine president said he “would like Trump’s team to be more truthful” when discussing the country’s war with Russia.

apple.news

I cry.

A rational Congress would invoke the 25th

 

[Remius]

Trump-Zelensky Feud: Trump Calls Zelensky A ‘Dictator’ —After Ukraine's President Criticizes Him Amid Russia Talks — Forbes

Trump lashed out against Zelensky after the Ukraine president said he “would like Trump’s team to be more truthful” when discussing the country’s war with Russia.

apple.news

I cry.

What a mess…

 

[daftandbarmy]

In fact the whole of the Empire was in play. Churchill was admant that it must survive. Roosevelt was equally adamant that it could not survive.


Roosevelt won.
Roosevelt won, or rather Marshall did.
1947 India
1956 Suez
1960 MacMillan's Winds of Change Speech
1968 Healey's Retreat from East of Suez

Well....

Britain also ran out of money to sustain the Empire as they drained the treasury fighting WW2, and as you note the USA was a big anti-imperialist of course, which contributed to decades of 'Retreat from Empire'.

A cautionary tale if nothing else.

The End Of The British Empire After The Second World War

After the Second World War, the disintegration of Britain's empire transformed global politics. Before the war, Britain maintained colonies all over the world, which provided valuable raw materials, manpower and strategic bases. By 1945, however, colonies were an expensive liability for Clement...

www.iwm.org.uk