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The Canadian Peacekeeping Myth (Merged Topics)

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Personally, I think a disarmament mission in Columbia would have a much greater return on investment from a diplomatic perspective. I think Canada needs to realize that by and large the African nations don't want white soldiers policing their countries. We have much to gain in helping central and south America; an area we have neglected for far too long.
 
Didn't the UN try something in this area circa mid to late 80's? Seem to recall that the results were about what one might expect- rich contributors got nothing except grief on the paucity of their contributions. poor contributors got a whole lot of neat new things and of course $$$ (USD) and the folks who lived there just wanted us all gone so life could go on. Why do politicians and indeed the military here in Canada and probably elsewhere insist on reinventing the wheel. Read history (!!!!) and make an attempt to find something really helpful or at the very least useful in the world context. As for the UN, that's the subject of a whole 'nother rant.
 
Americas[edit]


Dates of operation

Name of Operation

Location

Conflict

Website

1965–1966 Mission of the Representative of the Secretary-General in the Dominican Republic (DOMREP) Dominican Republic Dominican Republic Operation Power Pack [22]
1989–1992 United Nations Observer Group in Central America (ONUCA) Costa Rica Central America1 Nicaraguan Civil War [23]
El Salvador
Guatemala
Honduras
Nicaragua
1991–1995 United Nations Observer Mission in El Salvador (ONUSAL) El Salvador El Salvador El Salvador Civil War [24]
1993–1996 United Nations Mission in Haiti (UNMIH) Haiti Haiti 1991 coup and military rule in Haiti [25]
1996–1997 United Nations Support Mission in Haiti (UNSMIH) Haiti Haiti Stabilizing Haiti's new democracy [26]
1997 United Nations Verification Mission in Guatemala (MINUGUA) Guatemala Guatemala Guatemalan Civil War [27]
1997 United Nations Transition Mission in Haiti (UNTMIH) Haiti Haiti Training of the Haitian National Police [28]
1997–2000 United Nations Civilian Police Mission in Haiti (MIPONUH) Haiti Haiti Training of the Haitian National Police [29]
2000–2001 United Nations General Assembly International Civilian Support Mission in Haiti (MICAH) Haiti Haiti Training of the Haitian National Police [30]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_peacekeeping_missions#Americas_2
 
Looks like announcement soon:

Liberal MPs to get peek at plans for climate change, peacekeeping
Two-day caucus strategy session will set scene for fall sitting of House of Commons


The broad strokes of Canada’s United Nations peacekeeping commitment are…likely up for discussion following Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan’s whirlwind five-country Africa tour this month.

Upon his return, Sajjan said he had a good idea how may troops would be deployed but was awaiting direction from cabinet.

The figure is expected to be in the hundreds, sources told CBC News.

The government is expected to make a formal public commitment at a UN peacekeeping conference in London in early September…
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-caucus-cliamte-change-peacekeeping-1.3734886

Mark
Ottawa
 
ModlrMike said:
Personally, I think a disarmament mission in Columbia would have a much greater return on investment from a diplomatic perspective. I think Canada needs to realize that by and large the African nations don't want white soldiers policing their countries. We have much to gain in helping central and south America; an area we have neglected for far too long.

Whole heartedly agree. I'm not saying getting involved in a Colombian mission is not without its risk, but we have a lot more reasons to getting involved in Colombia, then Africa. For example;

- In 2011 we signed a free trade agreement with Colombia and in 2015 trade between both countries was 1.6 billion. Excluding Mexico, Colombia is our fifth largest trading partner in Latin America;
- We have supplied them with military equipment, plus under DND's Military Training and Cooperation Program (MTCP) over 200 Colombian officers have participated. The RCMP and CBSA are involved with Colombian authorities to help combat drug and human trafficking;
- In 2013 over 40,000 Canadians went there for holidays. (not to many Canadians holidaying Mali/DRC); and,
- Involvement in Colombia could strengthen our ties with other Latin America countries.

Link
 
I agree that we do have more of a reason to participate in a mission in Colombia, rather than Africa.  More to gain, and more measurable means of success.  (No mass murders today isn't exactly a barometer of real change)

A quick little note though.  I do believe the citizenry of those African countries would like to see western troops in the UN ranks.  More professional.  More effective.  Better resources. 

If the UN is being to be around, I believe the people fearing for their very lives would rather the interference of white, western troops rather than troops from Bangladesh, etc.  I believe the fear of brutality, sexual assaults, robbery, etc. is less when people are dealing with professional western militaries, rather than troops from countries almost as poor as they are.
 
Yes but do the average person in those countries even know that western militaries act like that?  Some maybe but I think many do not.  They have been educated that many of the problems in Africa are the fault of the white man or colonial times etc.

 
Tick, tick, tick ...
Federal cabinet ministers will troop out to one of the country's principal fighter jet bases on Friday to outline the Trudeau government's rebooted commitment to international peacekeeping — a pledge that sources tell CBC News will eventually involve hundreds of soldiers and police officers over time.

Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, along with International Development Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau, Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion and Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale are scheduled to make the announcement at the Bagotville air base north of Quebec City on Friday.

The announcement is coming two weeks ahead of a United Nations peacekeeping conference in London, a gathering Canada was almost excluded from because, according to a series of sources, it had not made — until recently — a firm commitment on the number of troops it could provide.

The initial list of countries prepared by conference organizers did not include Canada, said two UN sources with knowledge of the file. The officials could not speak publicly because of the diplomatic sensitivity ...
This, from the Info-machine ...
The Honourable Stéphane Dion, Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Honourable Harjit S. Sajjan, Minister of National Defence, and the Honourable Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, and the Honourable Marie-Claude Bibeau, Minister of International Development and La Francophonie, will make an important announcement about Canada’s peace operations and hold a joint media availability.

Event: Announcement and media availability
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016
Time: 10 a.m. ET

Location: Officer’s mess, 3 Wing Bagotville, Canadian Forces Base, Bagotville, Quebec ...
 
Judging by the location of the Dion/Sajin announcement, it sure looks like somewhere French is needed, like Africa.  God help them.  :(
 
Watched it on CTV. 

A whole of of  :blah: with a little bit of  :tempertantrum: from Dion when the 'where are the troops actually going?' question was asked the 2nd or 3rd time.  When he cut the reporter off, curtly I thought, and said 'next question', I thought "sunny ways folks!  this is the type of idiot you voted in".  I especially found it funny that, shortly after, he thru Goodale under the bus to try to redirect the focus.

Dion might need to be reminded that questions following an announcement are exactly that...questions.  If the same one gets asked over and over again, its probably because you didn't answer yet.  ::)

Bibeu should brush up on, or use, her English. 

CTV needs to get an interpreter who's main skill isn't stuttering, and, yes it is hard to make sense when both the speaker and interpreter are coming thru at the same volume.

:2c:  Whole lot of hot air, and avoiding the hard questions about "where" and "casualties".
 
Why should she had to brush up on her English?  We have had and do have uni lingual English ministers.

As for where they're going - the press knew that question wouldn't be answered today.  Asking something you knew you weren't going to get an answer for over and over is a waste of time.
 
Where ever the troops are sent, no matter who goes, I fervently hope they all come home safely, physically and mentally.

I have a feeling the Designated Assistants course will be needed....
 
...will make an important announcement ...

I'm pretty sure "where and how many" is a reasonable question to ask in this instance.
 
ModlrMike said:
I'm pretty sure "where and how many" is a reasonable question to ask in this instance.

It most certainly is.  Of course, they knew they weren't getting an answer to that particular question before they got there.
 
jmt18325 said:
It most certainly is.  Of course, they knew they weren't getting an answer to that particular question before they got there.

On the flip side of that coin....why bother making an "announcement" without knowing the details?  Or...leaving out the messy detail like 'where', which would lead into more question of potential casualties, etc. 

Wait, maybe I answered my own question there...

 
jmt18325 said:
It most certainly is.  Of course, they knew they weren't getting an answer to that particular question before they got there.

Exactly, so best not to ask any questions then.  :nod:
 
Eye In The Sky said:
On the flip side of that coin....why bother making an "announcement" without knowing the details?  Or...leaving out the messy detail like 'where', which would lead into more question of potential casualties, etc. 
Either they don't know where, or they're ... managing the message ... over time  ;)

This, from the Info-machine ...
The Government of Canada is taking concrete actions to prevent and respond to conflicts abroad and to support UN peace operations in building a more peaceful and prosperous world.

The Honourable Stéphane Dion, Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Honourable Harjit S. Sajjan, Minister of National Defence, and the Honourable Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, and the Honourable Marie-Claude Bibeau, Minister of International Development and La Francophonie, today announced the launch of Global Affairs Canada’s new Peace and Stabilization Operations Program (PSOPs) and the pledge of up to 600 Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) personnel to be available for possible deployment to UN peace operations.

Conflicts today are multifaceted, requiring political, security, development and humanitarian responses brought together under the broad umbrella of “peace operations”. The Government of Canada has already demonstrated its whole-of-government approach to the situation in Iraq and Syria. Today’s approach to peace operations is no different: they demand that we go beyond military roles and work closely with local authorities and a range of international and regional partners.

Canada is devoting an unprecedented $450 million to PSOPs. The new funding will help better protect civilians, including the most vulnerable groups, such as displaced persons, refugees, women and children.

Canada is uniquely placed to provide the very best expertise across the full spectrum of peace operations. Therefore, Canada’s PSOPs and future contributions will focus more on the areas of early warning, conflict prevention, dialogue, mediation and peacebuilding, and the empowerment of women in decision making for peace and security.

The Canadian Armed Forces are prepared to contribute personnel across a range of available capabilities, which could include ground troops, leadership for command and headquarters positions, air transport, engineering and medical expertise, military and police training, and capacity building, in order to make a meaningful contribution to peace operations.

Working with Canadian public and private sector partners, PSOPs will serve as an essential platform for tackling the causes and effects of conflict and preventing their escalation or return by increasing Canada’s support for UN peace operations.

Canada’s engagement in peace operations will be a whole-of-government effort, using the full range of Canada’s military and police as well as other capabilities in integrated responses. As conflicts have grown in intensity and complexity, the nature of peace operations has also changed.

Canada is back, and that includes its peace missions. Canada is committed to increasing its support for UN peace operations and supporting its mediation efforts, preventing conflicts and engaging in post-conflict reconstruction. This commitment reflects Canada’s deep desire to be a determined peacebuilder and to make a genuine and useful contribution to building a more peaceful and prosperous world.
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    “Now, more than ever, is the time for our country to choose engagement over isolation, a time to redouble our combined efforts to address the world’s toughest challenges, from complex emergencies to climate change and security.

    “Based on our unparalleled experience in building a peaceful and inclusive society, our bilingualism and our diversity, Canada will do what is needed to support the international community in bravely fighting for justice and security on the global stage; in promoting humanitarian assistance, development, training and capacity building; and in protecting gender equality and all human rights.”

    - Stéphane Dion, Minister of Foreign Affairs

    “The nature of global conflict has changed, so Canada requires an innovative approach as we move forward supporting international peace. We must get the ground truth, understand the root cause of conflict and learn from the experts who are working directly in the field. My recent trip to Africa provided an opportunity to learn first-hand about the security issues affecting the continent and hear recommendations from regional leaders, representatives of the United Nations, African Union and NGOs on how Canada can best make a tangible contribution to peace support operations.

    “Canada is committed to re-engaging in a full spectrum of multilateral peace operations. This is why we are making a significant pledge of military personnel and related capabilities for possible deployment to UN peace support operations.”

    - Harjit Singh Sajjan, Minister of National Defence

    “Evolving conflict abroad continues to affect the nature of security to Canada, Canadians and Canadian interests. Peacekeeping has been a long-standing tradition for Canada, and we are taking concrete steps to build a more secure world through police participation in international peace support and stabilization missions. The RCMP, in collaboration with officers from police forces across the country, will help strengthen local policing, improve security and build capacity in fragile and conflict-affected states.”

    - Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

    “I know that our women and our men who will be deployed in various peace missions will inspire their UN comrades with their courageous leadership. They will also help in implementing my development mandate as their exemplary actions will be a crucial determinant for the protection of women, girls and the most vulnerable.”

    - Marie-Claude Bibeau, Minister of International Development and La Francophonie

Quick facts

    Canada’s PSOPs will have three core responsibilities:
        1. lead Canada’s stabilization and fragile states policy;
        2. coordinate whole-of-government responses to conflicts and crises around the world; and
        3. support targeted stabilization programming in, and deployments to, fragile and/or conflict-affected states.

    Canada’s increased support to UN peace operations is a whole-of-government effort, combining diplomacy, deployment, training and capacity-building efforts, and includes conflict prevention, mediation, peace operations and peacebuilding efforts.
    Canada’s contributions to UN peace operations reflect a comprehensive approach, drawing from civilian, police and military resources, with protection of civilians as a core concern.
    The International Police Peacekeeping Program was renewed for a five-year period, with renewed funding of $46.9 million per year provided through Budget 2016 for the first three years to allow for the deployment of up to 150 police officers.
    The exact size and composition of any future CAF deployment to a UN mission will be based on discussions with the UN and Canada’s partner nations, as well as an assessment of where Canada can best make a meaningful impact ...
This from the Backgrounder:
The new Peace and Stabilization Operations Program (PSOPs) will have a budget of $450 million over three years, and it will be managed by Global Affairs Canada. It builds on the more than a decade of experience and achievements of its predecessor, the Stabilization and Reconstruction Task Force, or START, as well as lessons learned by the international community on how best to promote peace, security and stability.

PSOPs will give Canada a stronger voice on the world stage by funding projects that help to promote peace and security, including deployments of police officers and civilian experts to areas where they are needed and can make a difference.

PSOPs will complement other related efforts, such as life-saving humanitarian assistance and longer-term development cooperation. PSOPs will support and enable Canadian diplomacy, particularly by helping address the drivers of conflict, and in so doing, help lay the groundwork for enduring stability in fragile and conflict-affected states. PSOPs will help to create space for dialogue and conflict resolution so that affected communities can begin to recover their livelihoods and a sense of normalcy. Ensuring the meaningful participation of women in peacebuilding will be a core part of this effort.

PSOPs will work in partnership with other government departments and agencies, such as the Department of National Defence, the Department of Justice, Public Safety Canada and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. PSOPs will deliver on Canada’s commitment to a closer coordination between defence policy, foreign policy and national security, as outlined in the mandate letter of Minister of Foreign Affairs Stéphane Dion.

PSOPs will also coordinate the government’s implementation of Canada’s Ac‎tion Plan on Women, Peace and Security and actively promote the role of women and youth in conflict resolution.

Overall, PSOPs will have three core responsibilities:

1. Leadership on stabilization and fragile states policy

The program will support Canadian efforts to influence and shape dialogue and collective action among allies and partners, particularly at the UN. Canada will aim to:

    provide a strong Canadian voice and sustain advocacy efforts in global policy forums and initiatives, such as the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, the 2011 New Deal for Engagement in Fragile States and UN reforms on sustaining peace;
    advocate for improved compliance with international humanitarian law; enhance the protection of civilians from armed conflict, particularly of women and girls from sexual and gender-based violence; and promote the role of women and youth in conflict resolution; and
    help prevent mass atrocities by working with allies and partners to improve early warning and conflict analysis.

2. Support coordinated responses by the Government of Canada to conflicts and crises abroad

PSOPs will coordinate whole-of-government responses to catastrophic natural disasters and complex political crises abroad.

For political crises in particular, PSOPs will serve as a focal point for information sharing, joint analysis and the coordination of diplomatic, military, security and development efforts to ensure that they are mutually reinforcing and are coherent with and supportive of broader, collective efforts of the international community.

3. Design and deliver catalytic stabilization initiatives

PSOPs will provide visible and concrete assistance in response to conflicts or crises abroad through quick and flexible funding of stabilization activities. PSOPs will also manage the deployment of Canadian police officers and civilian experts to areas in need, and support the deployment of police in conjunction with Public Safety Canada and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police through the International Police Peacekeeping and Peace Operations program. The program will focus Canada’s efforts in the areas of:

    programming, through $118 million per year in grants and contributions to advance key peace and security priorities, such as strengthening Ukraine’s security sector, reducing tensions among communities hosting Syrian refugees in Lebanon, supporting the implementation of Colombia’s peace process, supporting anti-Daesh coalition efforts and stabilization operations in Iraq, among others; and
    expert deployments, for which $17 million per year has been allocated; they will include the deployment of Canadian police officers, managed in conjunction with Public Safety Canada and the RCMP through the International Police Peacekeeping and Peace Operations program, as well as the deployment of civilian experts for technical support to external organizations or for rapid response to crises and natural disasters.
"Catalytic stabilization initiatives"?  Interesting ...
 
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