donaldk
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@jewalsh
As said with many of the other replies, your Memo has way to much personal conjecture added to it -- its a blubber fest. Granted you may have evidence left offline for good reasons, but even if you did have substantiation behind your memo the language in it just screams cry baby making a river. Before I went REGF Officer last year, I was a ResF MS on Class C and often was stuck with supervisory duties involving a fair bit of personal and pulling long hours at work. My first year in that rank the PER was only put to a developing level, but being first year in rank I expected this, although I did not like it, the PER narrative and dots matched the divnotes written and the PDR guidelines were clear. The next year on the same ship I worked on my flaws with the same subordinates / supervisor and got a Ready as expected. If anything I look back at being an MS as a good experience that now helps me as an MSEng officer. If your PERs were that bad and your redresses kept getting bounced back... then either you did not push them high enough (although it takes time you can push them right to the CDS)... or you just truly were shit and good thing you left the Forces.
As a supervisor and also a subordinate, my major beef is not necessarily with CFPAS but with the training system and how CFPAS is loosely explained at the CFPLQ level for the NCMs and before that nothing is mentioned. AB/Pte's should be exposed to CFPAS so when it comes time they know what is expected of them and what to expect from the supervisor when the PER comes -- this would also help makes them MUCH better followers! This is where I find the root of the problem with the system exists, in that the members do not know what to expect from the process. Even scarier, talking to my colleagues in the officer world, the DEO/ROTP types do not even get a handle on CFPAS on their BMOQ but shortly after they could wind up being the signing authority for a sections PERs. He he, this is one thing that makes Phase VI a wake up call.
Now flip over to my twin brother and he got a developing PER as a Class A reservist -- his was a case to redress (he got nailed for things that were outside the scope of his PDRs)--- but because he did not know the CFPAS system at the time how it worked he just signed it. I was on contract away from home so I did not get to review his PER... fast forward 3 years later and that is what held him up for his MS promotion when he finished his CFPLQ. His beef with the system was if he had known CFPAS beforehand he could have quickly dealt with it in unit. He would have written a redress if needed in his sleep but now 3 years later it is way to late to grieve. He just said "Life goes on", it barely makes a difference on pay/pension and his CT/OT was executing within a couple months of the merit results coming out anyways. His lesson... learn the system and how to play with it.
Good Luck on your Memo / upcoming redress... but do us a favour and take out the personal whiny bits that have no substantiation out of it.
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As said with many of the other replies, your Memo has way to much personal conjecture added to it -- its a blubber fest. Granted you may have evidence left offline for good reasons, but even if you did have substantiation behind your memo the language in it just screams cry baby making a river. Before I went REGF Officer last year, I was a ResF MS on Class C and often was stuck with supervisory duties involving a fair bit of personal and pulling long hours at work. My first year in that rank the PER was only put to a developing level, but being first year in rank I expected this, although I did not like it, the PER narrative and dots matched the divnotes written and the PDR guidelines were clear. The next year on the same ship I worked on my flaws with the same subordinates / supervisor and got a Ready as expected. If anything I look back at being an MS as a good experience that now helps me as an MSEng officer. If your PERs were that bad and your redresses kept getting bounced back... then either you did not push them high enough (although it takes time you can push them right to the CDS)... or you just truly were shit and good thing you left the Forces.
As a supervisor and also a subordinate, my major beef is not necessarily with CFPAS but with the training system and how CFPAS is loosely explained at the CFPLQ level for the NCMs and before that nothing is mentioned. AB/Pte's should be exposed to CFPAS so when it comes time they know what is expected of them and what to expect from the supervisor when the PER comes -- this would also help makes them MUCH better followers! This is where I find the root of the problem with the system exists, in that the members do not know what to expect from the process. Even scarier, talking to my colleagues in the officer world, the DEO/ROTP types do not even get a handle on CFPAS on their BMOQ but shortly after they could wind up being the signing authority for a sections PERs. He he, this is one thing that makes Phase VI a wake up call.
Now flip over to my twin brother and he got a developing PER as a Class A reservist -- his was a case to redress (he got nailed for things that were outside the scope of his PDRs)--- but because he did not know the CFPAS system at the time how it worked he just signed it. I was on contract away from home so I did not get to review his PER... fast forward 3 years later and that is what held him up for his MS promotion when he finished his CFPLQ. His beef with the system was if he had known CFPAS beforehand he could have quickly dealt with it in unit. He would have written a redress if needed in his sleep but now 3 years later it is way to late to grieve. He just said "Life goes on", it barely makes a difference on pay/pension and his CT/OT was executing within a couple months of the merit results coming out anyways. His lesson... learn the system and how to play with it.
Good Luck on your Memo / upcoming redress... but do us a favour and take out the personal whiny bits that have no substantiation out of it.
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