Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project - Replacing everything from LUVW to SHLVW

[a_majoor]

Total blue sky idea here, but a vehicle similar in concept to aircraft MHE's would be very easy to load/unload (built in rollers on the load bed and can be loaded or unloaded from either end). While the scissor lift loadbed might be useful now and then, for 90% of the fleet, that would not be needed. Analogues of all existing truck sizes can be created just like MHEs come in a wide range of sizes.

Speed in material handling (and modernizing things so almost all of what we carry is palletized or containerized) would go a long way to making our logistical chain more efficient and productive, which should be the larger purpose of the fleet. This also extends to specialist vehicles, if the base truck is designed to rapidly load, carry and unload containers, modular container "packages" can be created for virtually every special purpose.

So long as the chassis has sufficient ground clearance and cross country mobility (low ground pressure), and can be equipped with a winch and/or PTO, then we have the basis for rethinking the nature of the logistics fleet.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

History of the MSVS MilCOTS has to be taken in context - there was a grand total of one company that bid.  Leaving two choices:  Take it or leave it.

So, the question in that case is better phrased:  What's better: the new MSVS SEV, or the MLVW (no parts available)?

At which point we should have bite the bullet and married ourselves to this contract http://defense-update.com/20081113_ltas_fmtv_medium_truck.html

 

[dapaterson]

At which point we should have bite the bullet and married ourselves to this contract http://defense-update.com/20081113_ltas_fmtv_medium_truck.html

No.  MSVS MilCOTS ios not intended as an armoured, expeditionary vehicle.  Those cost much more to acquire and maintain.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I believe that contract also included the unarmoured version. Going by our previous deployments, I would say the odds of the current MSVS MilCOTS being deployed overseas is fairly high. Even more so when you consider that "intermin" will likely mean the next 20 years.

It's funny we argue that it's impossible to have multiple fleets of AFV's, yet seem quite content with doing the same for logistical trucks. Don't get me wrong, every unit should have some domestic sourced vehicles for the day to day running around in and picking up supplies from the depots and such to reduce wear on the tactical fleet. An argument that fell on deaf ears when they fought hard to take our 3-ton stake truck from us.

 

[dapaterson]

Look back to the spec for the MSVS MiLCOTS.  We wanted dealer service close at hand to reduce maintenance pers & ensure a supply chain.  Buying a military vehicle loses those savings and flexibility.

 

[marinemech]

We had 3-4 2014 in Military green come off the Truck from Autoport in Dartmouth, ill have to check to see if they have any special tagging on them, they are all outfitted with the Steel Bumpers, Removable Cap, and 1 had a front winch and 1 had a rear winch , did not look at the other one(s)

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Look back to the spec for the MSVS MiLCOTS.  We wanted dealer service close at hand to reduce maintenance pers & ensure a supply chain.  Buying a military vehicle loses those savings and flexibility.

I know they are still pretty new, but how is that supply chain idea working out so far?

One thing I will say, their winches look a lot better thought out then the ones from the MLVW.

 

[PuckChaser]

I know they are still pretty new, but how is that supply chain idea working out so far?

Bunch were grounded at my unit until a mod could get done downtown, right before a major exercise. Tpt Rep had to call in a favour to get two trucks completed so we could actually bring our kit. Rest will get done "eventually." We're just another number in a civvie truck shop.

 

[dapaterson]

Bunch were grounded at my unit until a mod could get done downtown, right before a major exercise. Tpt Rep had to call in a favour to get two trucks completed so we could actually bring our kit. Rest will get done "eventually." We're just another number in a civvie truck shop.

As opposed to just another number on base, where there are no parts...

 

[Armynewsguy]

For information on MSVS SMP check out Buyandsell.gc.ca

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-BW-008-23908

 

[MilEME09]

For information on MSVS SMP check out Buyandsell.gc.ca

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-BW-008-23908

closes December 17th eh? maybe DND will get a nice gift for the holidays

 

[The Bread Guy]

closes December 17th eh? maybe DND will get a nice gift for the holidays

1300 vehicles, purchased in 8 days?  Only if Santa himself brought them.

 

[PuckChaser]

closes December 17th eh? maybe DND will get a nice gift for the holidays

Holidays 2019.

 

[MilEME09]

Holidays 2019.

I didn't say what year did I?  >

 

[The Bread Guy]

I didn't say what year did I?  >

Or which holiday, right? 

 

[MilEME09]

It would appear on december 12th they extended the deadline to Jan 8th, hmmm more time for bidders perhaps? or use the announcement to shut down the CCV cancellation from the headlines?

 

[QM]

One of the bidders asked for a few more weeks. MSVS RFP closed successfully on 08 Jan and the bid evaluation is starting right away, in Nevada.

 

[daftandbarmy]

One of the bidders asked for a few more weeks. MSVS RFP closed successfully on 08 Jan and the bid evaluation is starting right away, in Nevada.

So are they planning on putting down on Red or Black?  ;D

 

[MilEME09]

One of the bidders asked for a few more weeks. MSVS RFP closed successfully on 08 Jan and the bid evaluation is starting right away, in Nevada.

So the tests are going on right now? maybe the extra time was to get their vehicle(s) to the proving ground in Area 51 Nevada

 

[McG]

One of the bidders asked for a few more weeks. MSVS RFP closed successfully on 08 Jan and the bid evaluation is starting right away, in Nevada.

Why is bid evaluation (an administrative task) being done in Nevada?
Do you mean that vehicle testing will occur in Nevada?