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I DON'T think we should have given up heavy armour
I DON'T think MGS is a true Tank Destroyer (MMEV IS intended to destroy amour..)
I AGREE with quite a bit of what Mortar Guy has been saying actually.
I mainly feel alot of you are being a little unfair and jumping the gun in such loud opposition to 2 platforms that haven't even been fielded yet.
I strongly suspect that if we were keeping our Tanks or getting new ones, some of you might actually find MGS and MMEV usefull.
Sound like you should be blaming leadership (including the CDS), not platforms.
George W.
I DO have experience with heavy Veh/WS.. I know exactly the constraints as opposed to fragile aircraft systems.
I still maintain that this is doable, and Millions of $$$/ 1000's of man hours and more than a few corporate reputaions are betting on producing a winner.
There are some VERY smart people behind these "Transformation Innitiatives"
As for MG,
I can't believe I'm arguing with you guys about the LAV's stability.
How many "Hull pos at 90 deg." incidents have there been?.. Now add up operational hours and miles, factor out crew error.. The LAV is a stable, reliable weapons platform. (Why am I telling YOU this ferchrisake
?!?)
Obviously the armour school will work out how to employ the MGS without tipping it over.
I have faith in BlackHats
I am out of my lane on this next comment..
Am I wrong to assume the following:
1x Coyote/ISTAR
1 x DFS trp MMEV in overwatch
2x LAVIII w Inf sec to protect DFS
Is that not a deployable, defensible building block? (I admit tactics are not my forte)
No system is an island to itself, Even Tankers breath a little easier when an Inf trp is around. (although they'd never admit it)
The MMEV by itself is certainly vulnerable, but I doubt it will ever have to fight alone.
There was another platform that was rather vulnerable, yet considered invaluable.. the M109
You could almost poke holes in it with a high-powered washer from Canadian Tire. I new guys who joked " You hope the enemy uses AP, so it'll fly right through"
However, if you needed to reach out and kill something...... (or a whole plt. of somethings..)
Again, as I've asked before, Do you believe, that the CDS AND others would be so calous, as to throw away scant resources and spend armour crew lives on a fataly flawed system?
On the subject of MMEV missle guidance,
I predict:
Longbow inspired millimeter wave radar
LADAR
GPS/SAL or GPS/IIR
This will support both Hellfire and re-designed ADATS seeker (as well as the rockets)
pylon mounts/data bus have all been done in the world of Airpower. (yes, I know I know fragile.. but these systems can be hardened and isolated)
Just my prediction.. no returns or refunds, must be 18yrs or older.
I'm not pretending to know all the answers, I know some of the questions those who DO have the answers are asking themselves.
Some people I respect have their reputations on the line on this and other projects.. knowing how capable they are, I have all the faith in the world.
You should too.