Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Brad Sallows]

If not Trump which Americans are we negotiating with? There's a specific entity sitting across the table authorized to make deals. That is who our Foreign Minister and Prime Minister are negotiating with. If you don't think that is the administration in the White House, than who do you think that is?

Anyone who might be listening, and certainly in more places than the WH. Congress, state governments, large municipal governments, industrial powerhouses. Don't allow lack of imagination or understanding of where power and influence reside to limit efforts.

Really? Cause our federal ministers and Premiers have been trying this for months. This was the famed Liberal strategy from the first Trump term. This time they seem to be coming up short doing this.

Maybe they're just piss-poor at it, can't contain their tempers well enough, spend too much time blustering about adding to the damage, and don't understand the US well enough to figure out who to talk to.

 

[Good2Golf]

Carney's personal interest or his business interest while at Brookfield. Cause honestly I don't think he cares about the latter and probably isn't going back to Brookfield after politics.

At the very least, what he has transferred into the blind trust.

I’d also think it prudent to understand the Chinese-related interests he developed while at Brookfield. I wouldn’t presume that he wouldn’t renegade such interests after his time as PM.

 

[Svanen]

Maisonneuve is back in the National Post: ''Canada has far too few soldiers. Here's a radical fix — mandatory service''.

Perhaps I'm wrong but it appears that he is wearing a medal that he shouldn't. Specifically, his CMM neck badge is correct but he shouldn't be sporting a (full-sized) court-mounted OMM.

What do you think?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

If the army determines that’s a realistic need then sure. I’d prefer not to have self picked roles to make people feel special, like zodiac based amphibious operations.

Bah! who needs Zodiacs anyways

1917 - VVR

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[ytz]

Anyone who might be listening, and certainly in more places than the WH. Congress, state governments, large municipal governments, industrial powerhouses. Don't allow lack of imagination or understanding of where power and influence reside to limit efforts.

How many of those centres of power and influence can sign trade deals and actually enforce them?

 

[Maxman1]

Maisonneuve is back in the National Post: ''Canada has far too few soldiers. Here's a radical fix — mandatory service''.

Perhaps I'm wrong but it appears that he is wearing a medal that he shouldn't. Specifically, his CMM neck badge is correct but he shouldn't be sporting a (full-sized) court-mounted OMM.

What do you think?

And should the NATO medal be after the CD or should it be after the UN medal and Peacekeeping Medal?

 

[Furniture]

And should the NATO medal be after the CD or should it be after the UN medal and Peacekeeping Medal?

depends on the medal, if it's not one recognized by our honours system it should be after the CD.

 

[RangerRay]

If not Trump which Americans are we negotiating with? There's a specific entity sitting across the table authorized to make deals. That is who our Foreign Minister and Prime Minister are negotiating with. If you don't think that is the administration in the White House, than who do you think that is?



Really? Cause our federal ministers and Premiers have been trying this for months. This was the famed Liberal strategy from the first Trump term. This time they seem to be coming up short doing this.

Last time, there were grown ups who Canadians could talk to that could also influence Trump. This time, there are no grown ups and no one is interested in gently trying to influence him away from bad ideas.

 

[Brad Sallows]

How many of those centres of power and influence can sign trade deals and actually enforce them?

Do you understand that "influence" means to influence the decision maker(s) and enforcer(s)?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Last time, there were grown ups who Canadians could talk to that could also influence Trump. This time, there are no grown ups and no one is interested in gently trying to influence him away from bad ideas.

We're going to have to do better than resign ourselves to being a chorus of the lamentation of the women.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Maisonneuve is back in the National Post: ''Canada has far too few soldiers. Here's a radical fix — mandatory service''.

Perhaps I'm wrong but it appears that he is wearing a medal that he shouldn't. Specifically, his CMM neck badge is correct but he shouldn't be sporting a (full-sized) court-mounted OMM.

What do you think?

I think he should lead by example and be our first conscript, this century anyways.

I'd happily volunteer to treat him like I've seen other militaries treat their conscripts

 

[dapaterson]

depends on the medal, if it's not one recognized by our honours system it should be after the CD.

If not recognized, it should not be worn.

If non-Canadian, it follows the CD once gazetted.

 

[Furniture]

If not recognized, it should not be worn.

If non-Canadian, it follows the CD once gazetted.

I love that you keep the pedantic points alive.

You're correct, if not on the official list it needs to be gazetted. Just like the other two medals after his CD...

 

[dapaterson]

I love that you keep the pedantic points alive.

You're correct, if not on the official list it needs to be gazetted. Just like the other two medals after his CD...

I harbour a hidden internal RSM...

 

[MilEME09]

If not recognized, it should not be worn.

If non-Canadian, it follows the CD once gazetted.

Tell that to the legion

 

[Svanen]

depends on the medal, if it's not one recognized by our honours system it should be after the CD.

Apparently it is the “NATO Meritorious Service Medal”: a commendation awarded to paper-pushers at the personal discretion of NATO’s Secretary General. Unlike a dozen specified NATO campaign medals, it is unrecognized by the Order of Precedence.

As a de jure foreign award, it would correctly be placed after the CD if the recipient was expressly granted permission to wear it by Order in Council; otherwise, it should not be worn at all.

Whether Maisonneuve was granted proper authorization, I have no idea.

 

[ytz]

Do you understand that "influence" means to influence the decision maker(s) and enforcer(s)?

And do you understand that the power structures have changed there and nobody really has influence on Trump? Even Congress rolls over for him now.

You're thinking a lot like the first term Trump era. And this seems to be what the Liberals thought too.

 

[dapaterson]

Tell that to the legion

Long as they wear them on the other side, it's copacetic.

 

[Svanen]

Maisonneuve was invested with the OMM in 1998, and with the CMM in 2004.

The above photo shows that his medal group includes the Diamond Jubilee Medal, which he received in 2012. So obviously he has had his medals re-mounted at least once since being promoted within the Order of Military Merit.

The inclusion of his superseded OMM was almost certainly not laziness, but a deliberate decision to inflate his medal count.

 

[Furniture]

Maisonneuve was invested with the OMM in 1998, and with the CMM in 2004.

The above photo shows that his medal group includes the Diamond Jubilee Medal, which he received in 2012. So obviously he has had his medals re-mounted at least once since being promoted within the Order of Military Merit.

The inclusion of his superseded OMM was almost certainly not laziness, but a deliberate decision to inflate his medal count.

To be fair, most CAF members don't understand the system either.

I've seen many medal racks that are dubious at best...

As a CPO 2 I point them out, but as a CPO 2 I only have so much influence.