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The difference between martial arts and three weeks of killing techniques is not about who can kill the easiest, because you can teach that pretty quickly; its about being able to defend yourself, and knowing WHEN AND WHY to use those techniques; or even TO HAVE THE SKILL TO OVERPOWER SOMEONE WITHOUT HURTING THEM. When all you care about is kill ratio, and policy makers' troops are only so much fodder, these techniques are simlpy TIME CONSUMING and INEFFICIENT. Who care if you make killing machines who can't be reintegrtated into socitiety, and could wake up in the middle of the night and kill a loved one on reflex before they know its just some ptsd flashback nightmare?
people grabbing person's jugulars as a 'pain compliance technique' risk killing those protesters, as the muscles in the neck that hold the jugular there are in fact, when ripped (there does not need to be any bleeding, it is a nerve response thing), what causes death from the supposed 'neck snapping' or seeing of chiropractors, etc.
I wonder if the police doing that are AWARE of this risk, or are only taught that it is useful to make someone pass out, and pain compliance: i don't like the answer, either way.
i skipped some pages in there, so something must have come up in all this debate since my previous post on #29
getting distracted...
maikeru333 said:if you search false flag or agent provocateurs hopefully you can find some pretty interesting stuff... sometimes switching up the search engines you use will suddenly start finding new things you can't seem to find elsewhere, or with certain (flagged) keywords.
Here is one video I liked on this topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeG_t9abaSU
2010newbie said:Many people have said that the police "abandoned" their cars as incentive to the protestors to vandalize them, but this clip is the first one I've seen that shows the protestors attacking the police car with the officer still inside (@ 44 sec mark). It sure as heck doesn't look like the police abandoned the vehicle and left it until well after the protestors started trashing it. I hope the officer in the car was not injured from this attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOjGdvju-po
maikeru333 said:You have to pick a side at some point. I don't mean Harper's, or the protesters. I mean did you sign up to kill anyone you were told to, for money; or did you sign up to stand for something, and what Canada COULD and SHOULD be. Canada is not its government; its not its land, its resources, its military, its tv. CANADA IS ITS PEOPLE, AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN.
I know what kind of CANADA I believe in, and its not the Canada I'm living in right now...
But the Canada I'm living in right now is where I learned the Canada I do believe in; and I think I'm not the only one.
Sorry if I wasted your time.
milnews.ca said:(((1)))I'm curious - what's your take on why the peaceful protesters didn't denounce violence or property damage. After all, a lot of people are saying the vandalism took away big time from the main messages everyone SAID they wanted to get across.
(((2)))Also, how about the eyewitness accounts of how Black Bloc'ers were changing into and out of their clothes to blend into/out of the peaceful crowds?
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Craig+Kielburger+blog+Shrouded+destructors+hijack+peaceful+message/3208426/story.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2010/0627/Black-Bloc-tactics-mar-Canada-s-G-20-summit
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/27/black-bloc-g20-627.html
(((3)))Also, what do you mean by "manipulating the media"? Aren't there all sorts of non-MSM media outlets sharing an "alternative" message? Are you suggesting the stories aren't coming out?
Or they'll say the police LET the attacks on the cars happen :2010newbie said:or they'll say the protestors attacking the vehicle were really agent provocateurs... :
maikeru333 said:I think while searching I thought I saw some intelligent debate; as I was reading through the other posts on this topic, I was less sure of that.
I guess you missed these:3) I do not see any alternative media well represented on this site, except for what I have posted; this may suggest a paradigm of believing what you are told, and not questioning authority or the answers you are given ....
What he said. Why don't you see if rabble.ca has time/space for you? You're not worth any more of my time here.Teeps74 said:You are less likely to find intelligent debate when you deliberately insult us, and bandy about with half thought out conspiracy theories.
Did same - there's always tomorrow ;DTeeps74 said:Argh, I gotta learn the points system. How did I give 150 points when I wanted to take? Argh!
maikeru333 said:http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928 feet
Take a close look at the upturned boot.
This is a brand new (? recently issued) very distinctive deep black colour combat boot. Note as at Montebello, the special thick heavy corrugated soles plus what appears to be some reinforcement of the upper forefoot area. Also note the mismatched black and white socks. Is this a recognition code to their uniformed colleagues? The nice heavy shiny new belt also appears to be part of a uniform.
Here an operative throws a metal chair through a Starbucks window. This man’s physique doesn’t look like a seedy ‘anarchist’ to me. Rather, this is the fit strong body of a trained soldier – somebody who puts in a lot of regular gym time.
(Violent mass arrests in a peaceful demonstration in the 'designated protest zones')
Q. Why did the police go in and make arrests at Queen's Park, which I understood was supposed to be the legitimate protest gathering site?
A. [There has been] incredible misrepresentation of what that was. It was a rallying point for legitimate protests.… There's no sanctuary from criminality. And what happened is after they rampaged along Queen and up Yonge Street, we watched them. We watched them as they went over to Queen's Park. We watched them as they changed into other clothes, and we watched them as they hid in the crowd among the people that had gathered at Queen's Park. We went in to apprehend them.
Technoviking said:Well, mayors, it looks like you're showing your yellow stripes.
ArmyVern said:Where's your link to the videos of the peaceful protestors grabbing black block guys & gals as they tried to inflict damage & destruction and telling them to get the hell out of their lawful and peaceful protest??
milnews.ca said:I guess you missed these:
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-916609.html#msg916609
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-918100.html#msg918100
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-919213.html#msg919213
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-921877.html#msg921877
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-928447.html#msg928447
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-932325.html#msg932325
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-932880.html#msg932880
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-934210.html#msg934210
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-934823.html#msg934823
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-934864.html#msg934864
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-935322.html#msg935322
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-935374.html#msg935374
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-935937.html#msg935937
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/92495/post-936111.html#msg936111
(etc.)
Might this suggest a paradigm of believing (only) what you are told, and not questioning (what you consider your) authority or the answers you are given?
What he said. Why don't you see if rabble.ca has time/space for you? You're not worth any more of my time here.
I told myself I wouldn't get involved with this faux-discussion...I did!! Yet, here I am :brickwall:maikeru333 said:http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928 feet