GO!!! said:Daniel and Brad both have excellent points, which lead to the (my) solution for the disturbances that france is now experiencing.
There can be no identifiable cultures within any sort of government that relies on mass participation. To truly be a "nation" as opposed to a "state", there must be a measure of cultural homogenity. In other words, newcomers must be assimilated, not encouraged to keep their cultural idiosyncraties with them in a new geographic area. By marginalising themselves, the minorities become, by definition, inward looking, and neglect to participate (or seek to participate) in the state that they are a part of.
Given that many of these migrants are migrating due to uncomfortable conditions at their points of origin, why would any sane state permit these conditions to be re-created in a new geographical location? The same people, with the same attitudes bring --- SURPRISE! the same problems. In the case of the french migrants - poverty, violence and crime.
If these migrants were 1) cleared for entry into the country before being permitted to work, drive, obtain basic health care services, rent a dwelling or obtain credit (Australia is a leader in this area) 2) Settled in a manner which would prevent ghettoization (Canada has this policy, but it is not enforced) 3) forced to integrate, with a concentration on employment, knowledge of and participation in their assigned comunities, payment of taxes and confirm it all with ongoing citizenship tests over a period of years. Confirm the works of it with a "3 strikes your deported" policy, and we will successfully integrate all who really want to live here.
There is no excuse for the illegal immigration that has taken place, it is a testament to the laziness and apathy of us, the voters, to inspire governmnet.
The problems france has are not here yet. We have a strong economy, everyone willing to work (or move to find work) has a job which will feed them. Economics are cyclical though, and we will find ourselves in the "french predicament" soon enough.
Thoughts?
I think it is becoming quite obvious (and is even admitted b y many elites) that massive open immigration was not about "creating great nations", it was about eliminating them. Of course it is bad to emphasize differences, but our government is paying groups to even pretend to be different. This is no accident. Most polls for over 30 years opposed immigration.
I agree with much of what you siay, but race mixing is the inevitable result of integration. How many self-respecting Europeans would support this? Of course convincing Europeans they don't exist as a distinct people was probably the whole point. That we are born "racist" (as opposed to who? :) and we are racist if we want to preserve ourselves.
Don't get me started on Toronto or Vancouver.