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Umm.…I was on a ship that did a 1 in 2 watch rotation for 55 days straight. It can be done for a lot longer than a week….
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Weinie
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Imagine someone going on leave and being asked what they do in the CAF. I am a scullery hand.
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That is not an occupation. It is a turn one takes for a week or two…
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Could sound almost pirate-like ....
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I personally didn't mind 1 in 2 when I was a watchkeeper but some do. Perhaps I'm confusing it with a different watch rotation. Then again I haven't done 55 days straight at sea either.
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No, it is the hardest watch rotation.
55 days straight at sea was “special”. At least I got off the ship nearly everyday to fly. There were ops room types who claimed that they did not see sunlight for the entire period. I believe them.
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And cap that with Arrrrrr matey got any rum?
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Not while at sea in this Navy...
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Arrr Capn
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It's not a job it's a secondary task various departments fill in the ship.
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Was that during the OP Apollo CO dick measuring contest? God that was stupid.
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I think the record for that was 78 or 79 days....and having spoken with one of the crew who was subjected to that foolishness, they did switch in the middle of that period - about day 35 or so...they did a double 5 hour watch and switched the rotation supposedly.
My longest stretch was 31 days straight at sea on Gatineau during Strong Resolve '95. I found out on Saturday that I was sailing on Monday. Good times. We left Halifax, went to Norway, did the 3 week EX, then went down to Liverpool for a 6 day port visit.
Other than that, most of my trips/deployments saw me at sea for at most 21 days between ports - usually 14. But during that period if you were on the Mids, you'd see the sun maybe once or twice....getting your head down was most important.
My longest stretch was 31 days straight at sea on Gatineau during Strong Resolve '95. I found out on Saturday that I was sailing on Monday. Good times. We left Halifax, went to Norway, did the 3 week EX, then went down to Liverpool for a 6 day port visit.
Other than that, most of my trips/deployments saw me at sea for at most 21 days between ports - usually 14. But during that period if you were on the Mids, you'd see the sun maybe once or twice....getting your head down was most important.
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Yup. The MCC finally had to lay down the law after VAN (I think) went over 80 days. People were starting to go weird.
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The COs were not the only guilty party. Excellent friend of mine was NAVO on the VAN. Apparently, the CO took a vote of the ship's company. They voted to go for the record. They began regretting that the populist response won about day 35 or so.
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Ah yes, leadership by consensus….
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Oh I agree, at some point, the CO should have just said we need to air the place out. But it started as a fun "moral" thing apparently.
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My normal 'day worker' routine on the MSEO side at sea (from ph 6 onwards) usually started around 5 and went until I crashed (usually between 2300-0100). Doing drills outside of 0600 was the greatest thing ever.
The stewards also did a lot of food prep and cooking; the breakfast was pretty much a total standalone from the main meal line, lunch was half and half and supper was mostly from the main kitchen. Usually one of them started around 530 for breakfast preps, and others helped out in the main galley as well when cooks were short.
With reduced crewing eating the C&POs probably makes more sense, so assuming we won't do that at all.
The stewards also did a lot of food prep and cooking; the breakfast was pretty much a total standalone from the main meal line, lunch was half and half and supper was mostly from the main kitchen. Usually one of them started around 530 for breakfast preps, and others helped out in the main galley as well when cooks were short.
With reduced crewing eating the C&POs probably makes more sense, so assuming we won't do that at all.
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Talked to my Brother's spouse last night.
She is a Steward. They were caught completely offguard by this and were very surprised. Especially because they had just had an occupation meeting about all the changes they were going to be making to the trade and what the future of the trade looked like.
I guess there were questions asked about a severance package or a buyout and the company line was none would be given.
She had a lot of concerns because she just signed an IE 25 and she felt the pretenses she signed it under were no longer there.
She is unsure what she wants to do at this point. They have a newborn and she was adamant she wasn't going to a purple trade because that would mean going to Borden for an extended period of time and she is unsure whether she wants to go back through the training system again.
She is a Steward. They were caught completely offguard by this and were very surprised. Especially because they had just had an occupation meeting about all the changes they were going to be making to the trade and what the future of the trade looked like.
I guess there were questions asked about a severance package or a buyout and the company line was none would be given.
She had a lot of concerns because she just signed an IE 25 and she felt the pretenses she signed it under were no longer there.
She is unsure what she wants to do at this point. They have a newborn and she was adamant she wasn't going to a purple trade because that would mean going to Borden for an extended period of time and she is unsure whether she wants to go back through the training system again.
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There are specific billets associated with the scullery; one belongs to the MSED. Because there are no training bunks when the ship is full it's used for QL3 qualified martechs that need to do their OJT.
Usually there are a few people in the other juniour billets so you rotate them around, but you have apprentice mechanics/electricians scrubbing pots and peeling potatoes.
Nature of the beast, and did it a few times myself as a phase 6 but it's not a 'secondary duty', it's the person's full time job and they are working on shifts.
Similarly, the steward jobs are full time jobs., and they are also on shifts (with a few doing night steward jobs, which helps out the night cook and does the mids meals as well as overnight prep).
