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CMMA - replacing the CP140 Aurora
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…don’t forget the Skyhawks.
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like in the Idiocracy scene?
Eye In The Sky
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Maybe Fisher Price threatened to sue Bombardier for stealing their fake airplane toy and trying to make a bigger model of it…
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or they pulled a flex, told bombardier to shut up or they will drop the terrifs on boeings civilian aircraft that they caused all that fuss about.
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Well Bombardier defense signed a deal with the US Army.
www.defensenews.com
Bombardier wins US Army contract for new spy plane prototype
Bombardier will supply its Global 6500 business aircraft as a prototype for the Army's newest aerial intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance plane.
www.defensenews.com
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Good for them.Well Bombardier defense signed a deal with the US Army.
Bombardier wins US Army contract for new spy plane prototype
Bombardier will supply its Global 6500 business aircraft as a prototype for the Army's newest aerial intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance plane.
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Long time in the works. HADES follows successful implementation of two previous airframes (ARES and ARTEMIS). This activity line was messaged years and years ago when the U.S. Army announced the decommissioning of the MC-12 fleets.Well Bombardier defense signed a deal with the US Army.
Bombardier wins US Army contract for new spy plane prototype
Bombardier will supply its Global 6500 business aircraft as a prototype for the Army's newest aerial intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance plane.
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As much as I'm pro P-8 and think Bombardier has been whiny as well as depended on government support for far too long I think it IS good for them...and good for Canada to have a domestic aircraft company that is making inroads into the military market. Maybe someday they WILL actually have a proven Canadian-made military aircraft that suits our needs. That's not a bad thing.
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Meanwhile, in Spain.
www.navalnews.com
Good thing they announced this after the P-8 was selected, or we could have had the prospect of getting stuck with even more Kingfishers.
Spain orders 16 Airbus C295 in Maritime Patrol and Surveillance configurations - Naval News
The Spanish MoD has ordered 16 Airbus C295 aircraft in MPA configuration and MSA configuration. The contract amounts to €1.695 billion.
www.navalnews.com
Good thing they announced this after the P-8 was selected, or we could have had the prospect of getting stuck with even more Kingfishers.
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…except that the C-295 wasn’t in the bid.Meanwhile, in Spain.
Spain orders 16 Airbus C295 in Maritime Patrol and Surveillance configurations - Naval News
The Spanish MoD has ordered 16 Airbus C295 aircraft in MPA configuration and MSA configuration. The contract amounts to €1.695 billion.
Good thing they announced this after the P-8 was selected, or we could have had the prospect of getting stuck with even more Kingfishers.
Also, the Spanish requirement is probably very different in terms of endurance/range, amongst other things.
ETA: Interesting that the Spanish also call it the “Air and Space Force”, like the French.
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I know, but I wouldn't put it past this government to change the requirements and solicit a bid for an aircraft in service in another role.
Of course, between the Kingfisher, the Cyclone, the LSVW and the TAPV, to name but a few, there's always the possibility of a real life version of Ian MacCullom's "traitorous Elbonian defense minister" thought experiment, where he chooses the worst equipment to sabotage a military without getting caught.
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True but I’m more of the opinion that given the Griffon over Blackhawk and other decisions made by both Lib and Conservative governments that the CAF is often looked as a jobs program so I’d put down it likely to incompetence than malice.
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The requirements aren’t set by the GoC - they’re set by the Project office.
To solicit a bid for another role means to effectively create another project.
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Pesky requirements can be ignored on Ministerial Whim. Ask Marcel Masse….
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It’s scarily worrisome how fast UH-60 was crossed out on a whim isn’t it.
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Read “ no American helicopters please. I have my job to consider “
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Ummmhmmmm…
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I hadn’t followed that saga but was it because Bell already had something to show, as opposed to Bombardier during CMMA?
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No, probably better offline /elsewhere to discuss as it would out a few folks.
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