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@mariomike please don't move random posts from a discussion to another thread. I have no idea why you decided to Cherry pick a post of mine and move it?
No irony. Just depends who is in power.The irony/head scratcher is the trust is coming left. And not the right.
I've actually had the chance to discuss this very question with a Professsor in our department of immunology. His explanation was that some people are vulnerable to the proteins in the virus which casues a thickening of the fluid between the heart and the bag of tissue it sits in. The result is that weather you got the mRNA shot or the actual disease the risk of heart problems is the same.Interesting that there are two camps:
1. The respiratory virus, C19, caused increased cases of cardiac arrest; or
2. MRNA jabs caused increased cases of cardiac arrest.
Which one is catastrophic to governments, mandates, pharma companies?
@mariomike please don't move random posts from a discussion to another thread.
Public heath stats on mortality and excess mortality would disagree with you.
I have no idea why you decided to Cherry pick a post of mine and move it?
Interesting that there are two camps:
1. The respiratory virus, C19, caused increased cases of cardiac arrest; or
2. MRNA jabs caused increased cases of cardiac arrest.
I've actually had the chance to discuss this very question with a Professsor in our department of immunology. His explanation was that some people are vulnerable to the proteins in the virus which casues a thickening of the fluid between the heart and the bag of tissue it sits in. The result is that weather you got the mRNA shot or the actual disease the risk of heart problems is the same.
Assuming this is correct, then the net benefit of vaccination to the general population would still outweight the risks since the myocarditis issue balances itself out (aka, youre fucked either way)
Now I'm just an IT guy and certainly no statistician or doctor but I think that makes sense?
No one 'forced' you......
Its so funny how not once was I ever told I wouldn't get covid with the vaccine, nor was I ever tackled, tied down and injected.
Guess it was different for some people,......hope you recover from the trauma.
No one 'forced' you......
Its so funny how not once was I ever told I wouldn't get covid with the vaccine, nor was I ever tackled, tied down and injected.
Guess it was different for some people,......hope you recover from the trauma.
They are not however free of consequences for exercising their own brand of freedom.
I'm not sure that Covid ever became a "norm"People are free to do as they want within the limits of societal norms and rules. They are not however free of consequences for exercising their own brand of freedom.
People are free to do as they want within the limits of societal norms and rules. They are not however free of consequences for exercising their own brand of freedom.
I'm not sure that Covid ever became a "norm"
From the literature
Three stages have been identified in the life cycle of a norm: (1) Norm emergence – norm entrepreneurs seek to persuade others of the desirability and appropriateness of certain behaviors; (2) Norm cascade – when a norm obtains broad acceptance; and (3) Norm internalization – when a norm acquires a "taken-for-granted" quality.
I don't know if it ever got to step 2 (norm cascade) signifying broad acceptance. There was a coercive quality to the norm entrepreneurs "persuasion"
I think in general you are right.
I am not sure I would put the vaccines and our policies and actions on WRT getting them or not in the same sphere though.
Just look how its been walked back.
Military eases vaccine mandate, presses ahead with discipline for unvaccinated troops
The Canadian Armed Forces will press ahead with the forced expulsion of dozens of unvaccinated troops despite a new order from defence chief Gen. Wayne Eyre on Friday ending the military's blanket COVID-19 vaccine requirement.www.ctvnews.ca
Canadian military presses ahead with discipline for unvaccinated troops despite easing mandate
Military personnel are expected to follow orders and their refusal to get vaccinated raises questions about their suitability to serve, Defence chief saysnationalpost.com
By that logic, the word "forced" is entirely meaningless.And yet the courts have sided with employers every time in terms of conditions of employment being set.
In your line of work you get subjected to a variety of conditions and rules to follow. If you don’t then the employer can end the relationship. In fact the employer can end your employee/employer relationship at any time for any reason.
But at no time has anyone been “forced” to do anything. People have been given the conditions they need to abide by, the choice to accept or not was never taken away. That choice always existed.
And yet the courts have sided with employers every time in terms of conditions of employment being set.
In your line of work you get subjected to a variety of conditions and rules to follow. If you don’t then the employer can end the relationship. In fact the employer can end your employee/employer relationship at any time for any reason.
But at no time has anyone been “forced” to do anything. People have been given the conditions they need to abide by, the choice to accept or not was never taken away. That choice always existed.
I know you didn’t. Someone else did. I added it to the overall context of the discussion .I do believe I said I wasn't forced.
I also think knowing what we know now, the mandates and policies would have been very different.
I know you didn’t. Someone else did. I added it to the overall context of the discussion .