OceanBonfire
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This week:
Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ
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This is good news! PDR usually takes about 2 weeks to go over all the systems. If they are at this stage that means that the design is ready for the review and will likely pass (its not like the PMO CSC will be surprised by anything they see).
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Unless the awning over the flight deck for cocktail parties is missing. That would bring the entire process to a grinding halt.
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Ummm... flight deck? <frantically checks notes...>
MTShaw
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Big Spy-7 at Clear Air Force Station.
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US Missile Defense Agency declares initial delivery of Long-Range Discrimination Radar in Alaska
The Alaska-based missile defense radar that can detect intercontinental ballistic missiles has reached initial fielding, the Missile Defense Agency declared in a Dec. 6 ceremony at Clear Air Force Station.
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Full steam ahead: Why Canada's shipbuilding program oughtn't to be abandoned or cut | Macdonald-Laurier Institute
Richard Shimooka examines how the Canadian Surface Combatant program emerged, what its progress has been to date and why the outcomes are reasonable.
www.macdonaldlaurier.ca
a decent write up on the process so far
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And here looks to be the counter point. I don't have access behind the paywall so I'm aware of all that is being said. If anyone else can post the complete article that would be great.Full steam ahead: Why Canada's shipbuilding program oughtn't to be abandoned or cut | Macdonald-Laurier Institute
Richard Shimooka examines how the Canadian Surface Combatant program emerged, what its progress has been to date and why the outcomes are reasonable.
a decent write up on the process so far
Canada has no option but pivot away from current Surface Combatants path
This program alone could bankrupt DND's capital and maintenance accounts for the next 30 years. It could inhibit the Canadian Armed Forces from fulfilling its mandate.
www.hilltimes.com
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Alan Williams has a bit of a bias; I think he was part of a losing bid. His previous op-eds were full of untruths and conjecture, so don't think you are missing much.And here looks to be the counter point. I don't have access behind the paywall so I'm aware of all that is being said. If anyone else can post the complete article that would be great.
Canada has no option but pivot away from current Surface Combatants path
This program alone could bankrupt DND's capital and maintenance accounts for the next 30 years. It could inhibit the Canadian Armed Forces from fulfilling its mandate.
Have a lot of time for Richard Shimooka's articles though; always well researched and he makes a really good point. Changing options at this point would effectively leave us with no functional warships in 15 years and cost billions on CSC alone, and the reputational damage (to our already poor reputation on defence procurement) would cost a lot in any other major procurement as well.
NSS only kicked off because of a number of guarantees in the framework that protected the shipyards if we canceled projects or otherwise got cold feet, but I'm sure there are all kinds of 'risk premiums' built into any large procurement bids for the GoC.
And here looks to be the counter to the counter point.
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He was also on record as saying, “just because we’re [Canada] joining the JSF Program doesn’t necessarily mean we’re going to buy the JSF.”
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Well historically one can argue there is a long line of precedents...
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That is true actually. You don't have to own the aircraft to be part of the program. They are separate things. I don't have to golf to be part of a golf club, just gotta pay the membership fee.
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True, but your membership vote is but one of many, and if the club votes overall to adjust rules of the club based on how the playing members in the majority want to operate the club and you don’t like the changes, you risk being told ‘whatever…you don’t even play’ and then you get to pound sand.
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I believe being part of the development process allowed Canadian companies to provide components to the aircraft. Not sure what will happen if we don't buy any but there are some Canadian companies providing key systems as well as some sensors (metal detection in the oil?), and from the economic projections I remember seeing the economic benefits for that actually exceeded our JSF program costs by a lot.
If we don't buy any not sure if they will source another supplier out of the pool, but that would probably make sense.
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The JSF Program reserved the right to adjust industrial involvement in a number of factors; direct program funding by Level 1,2 and 3 partners being but one factor, procurement impact is another. Canada isn’t quite at Turkey buying an S-400 and getting turfed level, but without actually procuring the aircraft, there’s only so much value that the overall
program partners will allow Candian industry to benefit.
OceanBonfire
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Contract awarded to begin design work for Land-Based Testing Facility in Nova Scotia - Canada.ca
January 14, 2022 – Ottawa, Ontario – Department of National Defence / Canadian Armed Forces
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Given what happened to LETE - which was a World Class Land System testing site -- I am sure it will be bulldozed and sold.
And meanwhile, our neighbours to the south are cutting steel on the Constellation class later this year:
www.navalnews.com
U.S. Navy’s Constellation-Class: New Frigate to Start Construction This Year - Naval News
U.S. Navy provided updates on the Constellation-class Frigate program during the Surface Navy Association (SNA) 2022 Symposium.
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