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Canada's New, Liberal, Foreign Policy

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George Wallace said:
... I now find it offensive that we are spending all that money, not on upgrading our own security, but in sending it to other nations, some of which are corrupt and likely to funnel it off elsewhere ...
I don't recall a whole heap of objection to $28 million being spent "not on upgrading our own security, but sending it to other nations" in 2014 (or even more than that in 2012) - or is the risk of nuclear weapons getting into the wrong hands so much less now than then, so this funding isn't needed as much?  ;)
 
jollyjacktar said:
The PM has just been invited to visit Cuba as well.

Well Fidel is a old family friend. He attended Sr Trudeau's funeral.
 
I wonder about the obsessive need for the Liberals to be admired by dictators and third world thugs.
 
It's always possible for money to simply find its way into the hands of organized criminals who happen to run countries, but the goal of keeping a tight accounting of radioactive materials is worthwhile.
 
Look at the World Bank data, George:

In the 2011-15 period, it claims that there were 95 refugees that came FROM Canada, which is according to them 5 more than came from Saudi Arabia in the same period. Does this make sense to you?
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Look at the World Bank data, George:

In the 2011-15 period, it claims that there were 95 refugees that came FROM Canada, which is according to them 5 more than came from Saudi Arabia in the same period. Does this make sense to you?

I'm curious about the one individual driven to escape from the rigours of life in Iceland.
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Look at the World Bank data, George:

In the 2011-15 period, it claims that there were 95 refugees that came FROM Canada, which is according to them 5 more than came from Saudi Arabia in the same period. Does this make sense to you?

That must have been after the Alberta provincial elections.    ;D
 
I'm too lazy to follow the link today.  Are those simply head counts which include refugees moving through successive countries en route to final settlement?
 
George Wallace said:
Actually; it makes you wonder what they use as a definition of "refugee".
From the page in question:
Refugees are people who are recognized as refugees under the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees or its 1967 Protocol, the 1969 Organization of African Unity Convention Governing the Specific Aspects of Refugee Problems in Africa, people recognized as refugees in accordance with the UNHCR statute, people granted refugee-like humanitarian status, and people provided temporary protection. Asylum seekers--people who have applied for asylum or refugee status and who have not yet received a decision or who are registered as asylum seekers--are excluded. Palestinian refugees are people (and their descendants) whose residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948 and who lost their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict. Country of origin generally refers to the nationality or country of citizenship of a claimant.
Brad Sallows said:
I'm too lazy to follow the link today.  Are those simply head counts which include refugees moving through successive countries en route to final settlement?
Could be, according to the UNHCR stats for Canada since 2012

Anyone have any objections to the Canadian stats now?  ;D
 
SO?  Let's clean up our "Homeless" problem by declaring them all refugees, and the Liberal Government can then make their quota and save on the security checks, etc. as these people are already in country.    [:D  >:D  [:D




[Edit.  I'll blame it on spellcheck.]
 
Both Bernie Sanders and Trump seem to be appealing more to the protectionist fringes of their respective parties, which won't bode well for Canada-US trade:

Canadian Press

Canada could be pressed into reopening NAFTA, U.S. lawmaker says
[Alexander Panetta, The Canadian Press]

May 24, 2016

WASHINGTON - Canada might be forced to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement if the next U.S. president insists upon it, a Washington lawmaker said Tuesday.

The California congressman said the northern neighbour is so trade-reliant on the U.S. that it couldn't easily ignore an American ultimatum on revising the deal.

"We could walk away from NAFTA any time," said Darrell Issa, who sits on different congressional committees dedicated to intellectual property, foreign affairs and trade. "We've always been able to."

Every major candidate for president has expressed support for changing NAFTA. Republican Donald Trump is a virulent, decades-long critic of trade deals which he's repeatedly said he would change; Democrat Bernie Sanders has been equally critical; and likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has occasionally expressed support for reopening NAFTA.
(...SNIPPED)
 
In which case we better go full steam ahead on terminals and pipelines. Perhaps cutting some of the ties might be good for us in the long run.
 
Colin P said:
In which case we better go full steam ahead on terminals and pipelines. Perhaps cutting some of the ties might be good for us in the long run.

Colin - that is a big statement coming from you.

Dead serious.  Not wanting any heat.  If we are to get oil shipped off of your coast what is the best route and what is the best port?
 
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/if-canada-is-really-back-it-needs-some-backbone/

If Canada is really back, it needs some backbone

During the high-anxiety run-up to the shocking Brexit vote, it was hard to get a Canadian politician to shut up about it. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he made no “bones” about his support for the Remain side. Ministers Bill Morneau and Stéphane Dion spoke openly about the dire consequences of the U.K. leaving the European Union. Meanwhile, Conservative MP and former House Speaker Andrew Scheer felt compelled to write an article supporting the Leave position. It got to the point where a foreign political leader who didn’t intervene in the domestic politics of Britain looked downright irresponsible. But ask these same people to give their view on Donald Trump and they seize up faster than a Brussels bureaucrat can straighten a banana.

The issues are not dissimilar. The Brexit debate hinged on concerns about trade and economic prosperity, mixed with nativist fears about immigration, security and nationalism: Trump issues to the max. The U.K. is Canada’s third-biggest trading partner, and the vote will hurt our economy. But the U.S. is our largest partner, and Trump’s anti-NAFTA, anti-immigration, volcanic rhetoric poses a significantly higher threat to Canada’s free trade and stability. So if the dangers of the Brexit justified the intervention of Canada’s leaders, shouldn’t Trump?

Apparently not. If a good politician is someone with an opinion carefully prepared to contain no ideas, then Trump has made masters of Ottawa’s mandarins. “I have great faith in the American people and look forward to working with whoever gets elected in November,” Trudeau said when asked about Trump. Yawn. But understandable. In 1967, when Charles De Gaulle blurted out “Vive le Quebec libre,” English Canadians were ready to burn baguettes.

Loads of international law supports butting out of another sovereign state’s business, from the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 to the UN principle of non-intervention. Respect for sovereign rights has been the cornerstone of peacemaking and globalized trade, but the world has moved beyond the dated concept of non-intervention. The public now expects its leaders to raise issues of human rights or the environment—in public—during any bilateral trade meeting. Globalization has made domestic human rights, and worker rights, fair diplomatic game.

Trump, however, is proving to be an exception. So far, only Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne has dared criticize him. I spoke to her after the Orlando massacre and she said Trump’s policies were “dangerous.” A few days later she went to Washington and doubled down, calling Trump “divisive” and “destabilizing for the continent.” It is high-risk stuff coming from the leader of a province that depends so heavily on trade with the U.S., but she took the risk because her principles overruled political strategy. Isn’t that the kind of politician we want? Isn’t that leadership?

The person who ought to be leading on these files is Stéphane Dion, minister of foreign affairs, but recently he stood mutely as the Chinese foreign minister berated a Canadian journalist for asking a question about human rights. Dion was rightly pilloried.

Dion clings to his so-called doctrine of “responsible conviction,” now Canada’s foreign policy blueprint. The phrase derives from the philosopher Max Weber’s distinction between the ethics of conviction and the ethics of responsibility. It is meant to help Dion gauge the real-life consequence of action based on ideals. While it is refreshing to have a minister grounded in theory, it has revealed him to be a vacillating featherweight, a man who can’t decide whether he stands by selling arms to the Saudis or not, and who has humiliated himself in the debate over the Yazidi genocide.

Earlier this month, Dion voted against a Conservative motion asking the government to recognize that ISIS was committing genocide against 400,000 Yazidis in Iraq. ISIS itself announced its genocidal intentions. In March, John Kerry, the U.S. secretary of state declared it was genocide. Not Dion. Dion was steadfast on the day of the vote, and the day following the vote: no genocide. On the third day of the controversy, Dion did a complete 180, and said it was in fact a genocide. What changed? Not the evidence. The blood of Yazidi children, women and men was practically drenching the reports sitting on his desk. No, it was the appearance of a UN investigative report that changed his mind. #leadership.

The Brexit debate revealed that Canadian leaders will intervene in other countries’ affairs of to a degree, if we believe it protects our interests. Dion could salvage some credibility by challenging Trump on the issue of refugees and immigration, a file on which Canada has shown real leadership. If Trump was using words like “Jews” or “blacks” or “Italians” instead of “Muslims,” would we want Dion to step up and say something? Of course we would. Dion should join Wynne and risk breaking protocol. If Canada really is back, as Dion has bragged, it needs some backbone. So far he has shown none. Trump could be his chance.
 
Mr. Dion, is to my mind a classic Liberal minister with his useless, ineffectual, dithering.  I cannot imagine that knob as PM.
 
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