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Afghanistan: Why we should be there (or not), how to conduct the mission (or not) & when to leave

What kind of a message will that send to troops, Afghans and NATO?

...perhaps it is time to give a General from another country a chance to lead ISAF rather than watch the US merry-go-round that is the ISAF Commander's office.  As for the other countries and troops, can they resign and go home if they are not given sufficient resources?  As for Afghans - will this be a good example of how a "responsible government" and its military interact?
 
Simian Turner said:
As for the other countries and troops, can they resign and go home if they are not given sufficient resources? 
The senior leader certainly can. There have been several examples (and, sadly, many more of opportunities passed up) where generals have fallen on their swords for having the courage of their convictions.

What kind of a message will that send to troops, Afghans and NATO?
I believe it shows that McChrystal is willing to risk his career, fighting the war as he sees best for the Afghan people (ie - accepting higher US casualties), rather than just be another set of stars in the "US merry-go-round that is the ISAF Commander's office."
 
A post at The Torch:

ObamaClinton wobbling on Afstan/Guess who got there first?
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/obamaclinton-wobbling-on-afstanguess.html

Mark
Ottawa

Update at the post:

The opinion of a perspicacious reader on Gen. McChrystal's position:

"F...... right he should resign if he doesn’t get the resources: would you ask soldiers serving under you to risk their lives in a fight the politicians aren’t committed to?"

Mark
Ottawa
 
Simian Turner said:
As for Afghans - will this be a good example of how a "responsible government" and its military interact?

- Yes. A very good example of how a responsible government and it's military act. Or a responsible government and it's senior civil servants, or it's university presidents, etc.
 
From BruceR at Flit:

On the Kagan estimate
http://www.snappingturtle.net/flit/archives/2009_09_23.html#006541

The Kagan husband-and-wife team have put together an estimate on how many troops would be needed for successful COIN in Afghanistan.
http://www.irantracker.org/related-threats/comprehensive-strategy-afghanistan-afghanistan-force-requirements

It's certainly worth a read. Obviously some of its figures are a little questionable -- I'm not clear on how they came up with 2 Canadian battalions currently in Kandahar, but never mind that -- but as a maximalist upper estimate it's pretty good.
In summary, the estimate states that the U.S.-led coalition still needs the following troops, on top of what's there now:

    *1.5 brigades in Helmand province;

    *1 brigade minimum in Kandahar province;

    *1 brigade in the Paktia area;

    *An additional backfill brigade for the Canadians and Dutch when they leave .

An additional couple of brigades would also be needed for partnering with the ANA, to bring them up to speed.

The best part, though, is slide 39, describing how the worst-case would unfold...

I'd say this is an accurate assessment. Canadians should be under no illusions on this: when we leave, we will leave a hole...

Keep going, the UPDATE is particularly, er, revealing.

Mark
Ottawa
 
Excerpts from a Torch post:

Afstan: The McCrystal watch continues
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/afstan-mccrystal-watch-continues.html

...
So Gen. Petraeus and Adm. Mullen are on Gen. McChystal's side. Moving towards a real showdown between the brass hats and frock coats?
http://books.google.ca/books?id=SruMeCBkw1oC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=%22brass+hats%22+frock+coats&source=bl&ots=jKDBLGH0B2&sig=hzD-x8K24cYVre-SkyGhEHaXLGc&hl=en&ei=oWu7SpfzE9LGlAe5mO3WDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=%22brass%20hats%22%20frock%20coats&f=false
Things might get pretty serious...

Note that "warning" [by Gen. McChrystal] and compare it with what the frocks are saying. Hmmm. Policy positioning like that by the senior Canadian military (even former CDS Gen. Hillier, and even the British, though they are being fairly vocal--see here, here and here)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602085&sid=arRO44l5vNKE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8261350.stm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/08/29/outspoken-army-chief-general-sir-richard-dannatt-stands-down-115875-21632551/
is simply inconceivable. And I'm a bit wary about the extent it is developing in the US. A real public showdown with serving officers can, it seems to me, only hurt the war effort overall.

Mark
Ottawa
 
Kilo_302: The Torch has been on command problems for some time:
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/08/afstan-us-deputy-commander-lt-gen.html
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/06/afstan-us-takes-charge-for-rough-times.html
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/03/more-unity-of-command-for-us-forces-in.html
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2008/10/afstan-new-us-command-structure.html

Mark
Ottawa
 
Start of a Torch post:

"COMISAF's Initial Assessment ...Commander, United States Forces - Afghanistan/International Security Assistance Force, Afghanistan"
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/comisafs-initial-assessment-commander.html

AKA the McChrystal report.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/21/AR2009092100110.html
It isn't about numbers as such, it's about how to do the job. Numbers nonetheless are important. Media and politicians do not seem to have really grasped how revolutionary the assessment is. It is a real "state paper" as the British once described such documents.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=mhsYAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA472&lpg=PA472&dq=%22state+paper%22+british+government&source=bl&ots=BrU3lpAXea&sig=jI-lfJso-7pwWXmi5JJshGpMf3I&hl=en&ei=Aq27StjjI4HZlAeXnoikDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11#v=onepage&q=%22state%20paper%22%20british%20government&f=false
One does hope President Obama reads the whole thing (though the Annexes can get somewhat tedious); I'm pretty sure defence secretary Gates has.

The assessment is truly an ISAF, not simply American, paper. One does wonder how many senior politicians and government officials in contributing nations will bother to read it. I am pretty confident that Prime Minister Harper and Minister of National Defence MacKay will not.

The ultimate thrust of the assessment is quite simple: In the end, do ISAF members want the Afghan people to win?

Some excerpts that caught my eye...

Mark
Ottawa
 
One has sympathized with Sen. Colin Kenny's desire that our politicians would discuss the Afghan situation seriously for the benefit of the public.
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/sen-kenny-defends-his-defeatism.html
The problem is that they just won't. Brian Platt at The Canada-Afghanistan Blog:

CKNW, Afghanistan, And Our Terrible Politicians
http://canada-afghanistan.blogspot.com/2009/09/cknw-afghanistan-and-our-terrible.html

I attended a CKNW radio show today at the Afghan Horsemen restaurant, where they were doing a live town hall discussion on Canada and Afghanistan. Their interviews included a Canadian soldier, an Afghan-Canadian, and a poli-sci prof at SFU--but also Terry Glavin,
http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/
who closed the show with a magnificent spiel that cut through all the bullshit and left us in speechless awe. The fact that Terry only got three minutes to speak out of a 2-hour show is criminal.

You can hear hour 1 of the show here. 
http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/1140/Christy_Clark_Show_-_Wed_Sept_23_-_Hour_1.mp3
Hour 2 here.
http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/1140/Christy_Clark_Show_-_Wed_Sept_23_-_Hour_2.mp3
Yours truly has a short time at the mike at the 32:40 mark of the first hour. But if nothing else, make sure you hear the last five minutes of hour 2.

The bulk of the show was taken up by a panel discussion with three MPs: Andrew Saxton from the Tories, Ujjal Dosanjh from the Liberals, and Peter Julian from the NDP. The segment was mostly useless, with the MPs spouting their talking points and trying to score points off each other. Why on earth would CKNW think that was the best use of the show's time? Beats the hell out of me...

Mark
Ottawa

Update: From "Comments":
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3136739077337492229&postID=6108651331353742958

...
milnews.ca said...

P.S. - You were right about Terry's bit. Here's an .mp3 of his summation as a stand-alone - great radio! Well done TGG
http://milnewstbay.pbworks.com/f/Terry-Glavin-Closing-Christy_Clark_Show_-_Wed_Sept_23.mp3
 
Start of a Torch post:

Afstan: British general resigns
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/afstan-british-general-resigns.html

There appear to be tensions between senior US military figures and top civilians (but Gen. McChrystal has said he has "not considered resigning at all"), and ditto in the UK (see end of this post regarding both countries).
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/afstan-mccrystal-watch-continues.html

Now a British Army general with considerable Afghan experience has thrown in the towel...

Mark
Ottawa
 
Long post from Micheal Yon WRT UK Media Ops in Helmand province. I suspect there is more than a little truth to that assessment with the other ISAF forces as well (yes, including ours).

If Media Ops are really that clueless, no wonder we have such a hard time getting the public and Parliament behind us.

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/bullshit-bob.htm
 
Start and conclusion of a Torch post:

Obama and the Generals, and Admirals
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-and-generals-and-admirals.html

Further to these posts,

Afstan: The McCrystal watch continues
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/afstan-mccrystal-watch-continues.html
Afstan: British general resigns
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/afstan-british-general-resigns.html
...
Coming to a real showdown? I do wish we had reporting like the above in this country.

Mark
Ottawa
 
Prof. Sean Maloney (RMC) has published a new book with some prescriptions. I have posted a review here but I have not yet had a chance to read it.
 
More thought on Obama's choices on Afghanistan.
New York Times LINK

September 27, 2009
Op-Ed Columnist
Obama at the Precipice
By FRANK RICH
THE most intriguing, and possibly most fateful, news of last week could not be found in the health care horse-trading in Congress, or in the international zoo at the United Nations, or in the Iran slapdown in Pittsburgh. It was an item tucked into a blog at ABCNews.com. George Stephanopoulos reported that the new “must-read book” for President Obama’s war team is “Lessons in Disaster” by Gordon M. Goldstein, a foreign-policy scholar who had collaborated with McGeorge Bundy, the Kennedy-Johnson national security adviser, on writing a Robert McNamara-style mea culpa about his role as an architect of the Vietnam War.

Bundy left his memoir unfinished at his death in 1996. Goldstein’s book, drawn from Bundy’s ruminations and deep new research, is full of fresh information on how the best and the brightest led America into the fiasco. “Lessons in Disaster” caused only a modest stir when published in November, but The Times Book Review cheered it as “an extraordinary cautionary tale for all Americans.” The reviewer was, of all people, the diplomat Richard Holbrooke, whose career began in Vietnam and who would later be charged with the Afghanistan-Pakistan crisis by the new Obama administration.

Holbrooke’s verdict on “Lessons in Disaster” was not only correct but more prescient than even he could have imagined. This book’s intimate account of White House decision-making is almost literally being replayed in Washington (with Holbrooke himself as a principal actor) as the new president sets a course for the war in Afghanistan. The time for all Americans to catch up with this extraordinary cautionary tale is now.

Analogies between Vietnam and Afghanistan are the rage these days. Some are wrong, inexact or speculative. We don’t know whether Afghanistan would be a quagmire, let alone that it could remotely bulk up to the war in Vietnam, which, at its peak, involved 535,000 American troops. But what happened after L.B.J. Americanized the war in 1965 is Vietnam’s apocalyptic climax. What’s most relevant to our moment is the war’s and Goldstein’s first chapter, set in 1961. That’s where we see the hawkish young President Kennedy wrestling with Vietnam during his first months in office.

The remarkable parallels to 2009 became clear last week, when the Obama administration’s internal conflicts about Afghanistan spilled onto the front page. On Monday The Washington Post published Bob Woodward’s account of a confidential assessment by the top United States and NATO commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, warning that there could be “mission failure” if more troops aren’t added in the next 12 months. In Wednesday’s Times White House officials implicitly pushed back against the leak of McChrystal’s report by saying that the president is “exploring alternatives to a major troop increase in Afghanistan.”

As Goldstein said to me last week, it’s “eerie” how closely even these political maneuvers track those of a half-century ago, when J.F.K. was weighing whether to send combat troops to Vietnam. Military leaders lobbied for their new mission by planting leaks in the press. Kennedy fired back by authorizing his own leaks, which, like Obama’s, indicated his reservations about whether American combat forces could turn a counterinsurgency strategy into a winnable war.

Within Kennedy’s administration, most supported the Joint Chiefs’ repeated call for combat troops, including the secretaries of defense (McNamara) and state (Dean Rusk) and Gen. Maxwell Taylor, the president’s special military adviser. The highest-ranking dissenter was George Ball, the undersecretary of state. Mindful of the French folly in Vietnam, he predicted that “within five years we’ll have 300,000 men in the paddies and jungles and never find them again.” In the current administration’s internal Afghanistan debate, Goldstein observes, Joe Biden uncannily echoes Ball’s dissenting role.

Though Kennedy was outnumbered in his own White House — and though he had once called Vietnam “the cornerstone of the free world in Southeast Asia” — he ultimately refused to authorize combat troops. He instead limited America’s military role to advisory missions. That policy, set in November 1961, would only be reversed, to tragic ends, after his death. As Bundy wrote in a memo that year, the new president had learned the hard way, from the Bay of Pigs disaster in April, that he “must second-guess even military plans.” Or, as Goldstein crystallizes the overall lesson of J.F.K.’s lonely call on Vietnam strategy: “Counselors advise but presidents decide.”

Obama finds himself at that same lonely decision point now. Though he came to the presidency declaring Afghanistan a “war of necessity,” circumstances have since changed. While the Taliban thrives there, Al Qaeda’s ground zero is next-door in nuclear-armed Pakistan. Last month’s blatantly corrupt, and arguably stolen, Afghanistan election ended any pretense that Hamid Karzai is a credible counter to the Taliban or a legitimate partner for America in a counterinsurgency project of enormous risk and cost. Indeed, Karzai, whose brother is a reputed narcotics trafficker, is a double for Ngo Dinh Diem, the corrupt South Vietnamese president whose brother also presided over a vast, government-sanctioned criminal enterprise in the early 1960s. And unlike Kennedy, whose C.I.A. helped take out the Diem brothers, Obama doesn’t have a coup in his toolbox.

Goldstein points out there are other indisputable then-and-now analogies as well. Much as Vietnam could not be secured over the centuries by China, France, Japan or the United States, so Afghanistan has been a notorious graveyard for the ambitions of Alexander the Great, the British and the Soviets. “Some states in world politics are simply not susceptible to intervention by the great powers,” Goldstein told me. He also notes that the insurgencies in Afghanistan and Vietnam share the same geographical advantage. As the porous border of neighboring North Vietnam provided sanctuary and facilitated support to our enemy then, so Pakistan serves our enemy today.

Most worrisome, in Goldstein’s view, is the notion that a recycling of America’s failed “clear and hold” strategy in Vietnam could work in Afghanistan. How can American forces protect the population, let alone help build a functioning nation, in a tribal narco-state consisting of some 40,000 mostly rural villages over an area larger than California and New York combined?

Even if we routed the Taliban in another decade or two, after countless casualties and billions of dollars, how would that stop Al Qaeda from coalescing in Somalia or some other criminal host state? How would a Taliban-free Afghanistan stop a jihadist trained in Pakistan’s Qaeda camps from mounting a terrorist plot in Denver and Queens?

Already hawks are arguing that any deviation from McChrystal’s combat-troop requests is tantamount to surrender and “immediate withdrawal.” But that all-in or all-out argument, a fixture of the Iraq debate, is just as false a choice here. Obama is not contemplating either surrender to terrorists or withdrawal from Afghanistan. One prime alternative is the counterterrorism plan championed by Biden. As The Times reported, it would scale back American forces in Afghanistan to “focus more on rooting out Al Qaeda there and in Pakistan.”

Obama’s decision, whichever it is, will demand all the wisdom and political courage he can muster. If he adds combat troops, he’ll be extending a deteriorating eight-year-long war without a majority of his country or his own party behind him. He’ll have to explain why more American lives should be yoked to the Karzai “government.” He’ll have to be honest in estimating the cost. (The Iraq war, which the Bush administration priced at $50 to $60 billion, is at roughly $1 trillion and counting.) He will have to finally ask recession-battered Americans what his predecessor never did: How much — and what — are you willing to sacrifice in blood and treasure for the mission?

If Obama instead decides to embrace some variation on the Biden option, he’ll have a different challenge. He’ll face even more violent attacks than he did this summer. When George Will wrote a recent column titled “Time to Get Out of Afghanistan,” he was accused of “urging retreat and accepting defeat” (by William Kristol) and of “waving the bloody shirt” (by Fred Kagan, an official adviser to McChrystal who, incredibly enough, freelances as a blogger at National Review). The editorial page at Will’s home paper, The Washington Post, declared that deviating from McChrystal’s demand for more troops “would both dishonor and endanger this country.” If a conservative columnist can provoke neocon invective this hysterical, just imagine what will be hurled at Obama.

But the author of “Lessons in Disaster” does not believe that a change in course in Afghanistan would be a disaster for Obama’s young presidency. “His greatest qualities as president,” Goldstein says, “are his quality of mind and his quality of judgment — his dispassionate ability to analyze a situation. If he was able to do that here, he might more than survive a short-term hit from the military and right-wing pundits. He would establish his credibility as a president who will override his advisers when a strategy doesn’t make sense.”

Either way, it’s up to the president to decide what he thinks is right for the country’s security, the politics be damned. That he has temporarily pressed the pause button to think it through while others, including some of his own generals, try to lock him in is not a sign of indecisiveness but of confidence and strength. It is, perhaps, Obama’s most significant down payment yet on being, in the most patriotic sense, Kennedyesque.

 
Article from the NY Times

Plan to Boost Afghan Forces Splits Obama Advisers

WASHINGTON — As President Obama weighs sending more troops to Afghanistan, one of the most consequential decisions of his presidency, he has discovered that the military is not monolithic in support of the plan and that some of the civilian advisers he respects most have deep reservations.

Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal’s troop request, which was submitted to the Pentagon on Friday, has reignited a longstanding debate within the military about the virtues of the counterinsurgency strategy popularized by Gen. David H. Petraeus in Iraq and now embraced by General McChrystal, the top American and NATO commander in Afghanistan.

General McChrystal is expected to ask for as many as 40,000 additional troops for the eight-year-old war, a number that has generated concern among top officers like Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the Army chief of staff, who worry about the capacity to provide more soldiers at a time of stress on the force, officials said.

The competing advice and concerns fuel a pivotal struggle to shape the president’s thinking about a war that he inherited but may come to define his tenure. Among the most important outside voices has been that of former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, a retired four-star Army general, who visited Mr. Obama in the Oval Office this month and expressed skepticism that more troops would guarantee success. According to people briefed on the discussion, Mr. Powell reminded the president of his longstanding view that military missions should be clearly defined.

Mr. Powell is one of the three people outside the administration, along with Senator John F. Kerry and Senator Jack Reed, considered by White House aides to be most influential in this current debate. All have expressed varying degrees of doubt about the wisdom of sending more forces to Afghanistan.

Mr. Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts and chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, has warned of repeating the mistakes of Vietnam, where he served, and has floated the idea of a more limited counterterrorist mission. Mr. Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island and an Army veteran, has not ruled out supporting more troops but said “the burden of proof” was on commanders to justify it.
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More on link

First point- Re: advisers making Obama's life difficult by offering differing advice.  That's their job.  Obama's job, the one he asked for and got, is to decide which advice to follow.

Second point - related to first - "skepticism that more troops would guarantee success".  Of course there are no guarantees of success.  Conversely quitting will guarantee failure.

Third point - Re: selection of advisers – I am reminded of Peter Gzowski’s “balanced” panel of commentators.  Three socialists (Kieran, Camp and Lewis), one each from the Liberals, Conservatives and NDP respectively.

In particular, re the last, Powell is staying true to form.  The Powell Doctrine of rapid, brief and massive intervention or no intervention at all is internalized from his Vietnam experience.  He was part of the cadre that converted the Army from a force that could have won in Vietnam if the politicians had had enough staying power, to a force that could never, ever contemplate a Vietnam type excursion again.

He and his ilk were largely responsible for stripping the Army of its Light Forces (read Infantry) and converting it into a Cavalry force capable of delivering a short, sharp, shock.  In doing so they created a force capable only of the destructive work of warfare but lacking staying powere and incapable of the constructive work of policing (without major retooling).  Thus their army excelled in destroying Saddam’s ability to wage war but was incapable of tackling the necessary task of “nation building” that ultimately was necessary to oust Saddam completely. 

That is what Rumsfeld was alluding to when he said you fight with the army you have, not the one you might wish for.

It is only with Petraeus, with the support of his Commander in Chief George Bush, that the Army was reconfigured into a more balanced posture.

None of the Advisers are fans of maintaining an Imperial Constabulary – and yet that is what the world requires.  The real question is: Whose Imperium?


Edited Non Sequitur from Baden Guy's posting:

But the author of “Lessons in Disaster” does not believe that a change in course in Afghanistan would be a disaster for Obama’s young presidency. “His greatest qualities as president,” Goldstein says, “are his quality of mind and his quality of judgment — his dispassionate ability to analyze a situation. If he was able to do that here, he might more than survive a short-term hit from the military and right-wing pundits. He would establish his credibility as a president who will override his advisers when a strategy doesn’t make sense.”

Either way, it’s up to the president to decide what he thinks is right for the country’s security, the politics be damned.

I agree with Goldstein in the final sentence.  It is up to Obama to decide.

His previous paragraph is pandering.  To paraphrase:  "O Great Pharaoh, you believe that you have amazing powers, you will prove them to me by agreeing with me and I will continue to worship you (in public, pro tem)".
 
Start of a post at The Torch (with video):

Gates and the generals, and admirals
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/gates-and-generals-and-admirals.html

Further to this post,

Obama and the generals, and admirals
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-and-generals-and-admirals.html

I'd have to say the defense secretary seems to be leaning towards supporting Gen. McChrystal's request for considerably more US forces for Afstan. First, CNN's "State of the Union"...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/27/gates-new-troops-to-afghanistan-wouldnt-flow-til-early-2010/#more-70698

Mark
Ottawa
 
Here, reproduced, without comment, under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from today’s Globe and Mail web site, is a commentary by a NDP insider, in why we should and should not fight:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/brian-topp/why-obama-should-say-no/article1304507/
Obama should say 'No thanks, not this time'

Brian Topp

Monday, September 28, 2009

With a little unwitting help from the Roman Catholic Church, I am going to argue in the notes that follow that President Barack Obama should say "no thanks, not this time" to General Stanley McChrystal's proposal, presented this weekend, to deploy an additional 40,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan.

Instead it is time for NATO, led by the United States, to negotiate the best terms it can get and to begin an orderly withdrawal from that country -- with a clear remaining undertaking.

The church I grew up in has many interesting things to say on the topic of "just war." Its views are well-summarized in the new Catholic Catechism, paragraphs 2307 to 2317.

Let's take a look at some of this (I'll include the beautifully-written Latin, as well as the almost equally impressive English:

2308 Singuli cives et gubernantes agere tenentur ad bella vitanda. «Quamdiu autem periculum belli aderit, auctoritasque internationalis competens congruisque viribus munita defuerit, tamdiu, exhaustis quidem omnibus pacificae tractationis subsidiis, ius legitimae defensionis guberniis denegari non poterit».

2308 All citizens and all governments are obliged to work for the avoidance of war. However, as long as the danger of war persists and there is no international authority with the necessary competence and power, governments cannot be denied the right of lawful self-defense, once all peace efforts have failed.

The substance of this point was carefully debated among Canada's social democrats in 1939, when the CCF parliamentary caucus and its national council considered whether to support Canada's entry into the Second World War.

The party leader of the day, J. S. Woodsworth, strongly opposed entering that war.

As his daughter, Grace MacInnis, put it: "When he spoke in Parliament [during the debate on the war, a day after the CCF had decided what to do]... it was as a man apart, as a prophet. Frail and aging, he poured into that single speech his whole molten hatred of war, of its utter senselessness and uselessness, of his personal determination to oppose it to the end and of his hope that someday men would learn to live as brothers."

Woodsworth's speech on peace is one of the great moments of Canadian parliamentary history, and should be required reading by every Member of Parliament before they turn to issues of peace and war.

It is also true that at that moment Woodsworth was utterly wrong, as his party and caucus regretfully concluded.

Social democrats in Parliament applauded him, thanked him, and then broke with him, voting correctly to join Britain's increasingly lonely fight against Nazism -- two years before the United States could bring itself to do so.

All this to say that contrary to the caricatures scribbled in crayon so many times in the columns of our nation's Fifth Estate over the past eight years, it is not in the basic DNA of mainstream social democrats in Canada to be pacifists. Like the authors of the Catholic Catechism, the mainstream of the orange tribe in Canada has long understood that there is a time and a place for legitimate self-defence.

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CCF legend James. S. Woodsworth is shown in an undated file photo.

Onward:

2309 Strictas condiciones legitimae defensionis vi militari oportet severe considerare. Talis decisionis gravitas eam condicionibus legitimitatis moralis subigit rigorosis. Requiritur simul:
damnum ab aggressore nationi vel nationum communitati inflictum esse diuturnum, grave et certum;
omnia alia media ad illi imponendum finem manifestata esse impossibilia vel inefficacia;
serias ad exitum prosperum simul haberi condiciones;
armorum usum mala non implicare et perturbationes graviora quam malum supprimendum. Modernorum destructionis mediorum potentia in hac condicione aestimanda gravissimum habet pondus.


2309 The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:
The damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
there must be serious prospects of success;
the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated.
The power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.


This is the heart of the matter -- a brief, clear summary of what is and is not a "just war".

The Church's views are rooted in the writings of Saint Augustine, Saint Thomas Aquinas and numerous other meditations on these issues (including as discussed at Vatican II in paragraph 79).

But I like the Catechism's take, because of its surgical precision. Let's look at each element as it might apply to the war in Afghanistan today, remembering that the Catechism's drafters assert that each of every element must be true "at one and the same time."

The damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain

There can be no doubt that the atrocity committed in New York on Sept. 11, 2001 was a lasting, grave and certain act of war perpetrated by the government of Afghanistan, through the al-Qaeda terrorists it was fostering, against the United States of America and its allies, including Canada.

This cannot be dismissed or explained away by progressives or anyone else. Yes, the U.S. government and its corporate friends have done a great deal of evil in the world. But the people on those planes did not deserve to die, nor did the people working in those buildings.

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A man stands in the rubble after the collapse of the first World Trade Center tower on Sept. 11, 2001, in New York.

All other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective

There is room for debate here.

It is true that the al-Qaeda network is not a nation state, and will not be destroyed through conventional warfare.

Al-Qaeda's finances need to be identified and turned off. Its leaders and senior personnel need to captured and tried for their crimes (tried fairly and impartially, remembering that the wrong people are charged with offenses with distressing regularity). Its safe-houses and camps need to be destroyed. Its apologists and propagandists need to be persuasively rebutted. This is multinational work for intelligence agencies, diplomats, special forces, financial regulators, police agencies, jurists and many others, and will take many, many years. It is (mostly) not work for the U.S. Marines, the U.S. Army or for the U.S. Air Force.

But the Taliban regime in Afghanistan was a national government.

It provided al-Qaeda with its principal base of operations as well as moral and practical support that was condition-precedent for the September, 2001, atrocity. That regime could be destroyed through conventional warfare.

I submit that as direct party to an undeniable act of war, the Taliban government in Afghanistan provided the United States and its allies with just cause for a focused, limited and promptly-ended war. Given the history and state-of-play of Afghanistan at the time, it is hard to see how the Taliban regime could otherwise have been destroyed (for example through an embargo, or through sustained bombing) without unacceptable harm to the people of that country.

There must be serious prospects of success

Here we get to the nub of the matter as it stands today.

There were "serious prospects of success" for what was appropriate to do in the fall of 2001 -- which was to destroy the Taliban government in Afghanistan, to install an alternative government with some reasonable level of support, and then to promptly get out -- in, say, 12 months (toward the end of 2002).

This would not have supplied schooling and health care to the children of Afghanistan -- also lacking in many neighbourhoods in the United States, Canada and numerous other countries.

But it would have removed the Taliban and have replaced them, then leaving the field to players motivated to find some sort of post-war accommodation in what was then a much lower-intensity conflict. Specifically, the Karzai government installed in December of 2001 would have been much more strongly motivated to come to some sort of modus vivendi with the Pashtun tribes -- some of whom who were then open to one.

This approach, in summary, is what NDP Leader Jack Layton has consistently proposed -- for which he has been universally reviled by other parties in Parliament and by most of the usual suspects commenting from the sidelines.

What did we do instead?

The United States has led, and Canada has joined, an eight-year intervention on one side of an ever-intesnsifying civil war between the Afghan government and the Pashtun insurgencies, attempting to impose a northern-dominated government on the Pashtuns by force, using an ever-growing army of western troops.

What are the prospects for success?

Don't take it from me.

Or from the former commander of British forces in Afghanistan.

Take it from the present American commander, General Stanley McChrystal, whose "initial assessment" should be the next thing Canadian MPs read on this issue, after Woodsworth's speech on the futility and evil of war.

In sum, McCrystal is reporting that the war in Afghanistan as it is currently being conducted will fail, possibly soon.

The details of what McChrystal has to say merit more discussion than we have room for here. But his key points seem to be these: after eight years of war, the Pashtun insurgencies are making steady progress. Specifically, they are targeting Kandahar, the centre of Canada's military mission, and are making significant progress gaining control of it despite the valiant efforts of Canadian and other allied troops. The ham-fisted tactics of most of the Western armies, focused on protecting their own soldiers, along with the incompetence and corruption of the present Afghan government, have alienated the Afghan people. The result is numerous dangerous and perverse outcomes -- like the fact that the Afghan government's own prison system has become a principal recruiting and training ground for the enemy.

Military commanders are not hired to give up. McChrystal wants to succeed. And so this weekend, The New York Times reports, he presented his much-discussed troop request to the Pentagon.

A number of options are apparently set out in McCrystal's plan. But as one Pentagon official put it, the “we’re in this to win” option requires the deployment of an additional 40,000 U.S. troops.

Which brings us to the Catholic Church's final definitional point:

The use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated

What would the Americans do with an additional 40,000 troops in Afghanistan? McCrystal outlines his plan in his "initial assessment." In sum, he proposes to use them in a hopefully smarter, more locally-focused, targeted and sustained assault on Pashtun insurgents -- seeking to end the Afghan civil war by force.

What are the prospects for success?

Perhaps the Pashtun insurgents will note that the United States has deployed 40,000 more troops, will conclude that they cannot win against this largely Christian alien enemy fighting in their homeland, and will surrender to the now hopelessly corrupt and electorally-illegitimate Karzai government.

Or perhaps the Pashtun insurgency will find, from among the 42 million people it swims among, another 10,000 to 20,000 insurgents -- remembering British General Sir Harold Brigg's classic anti-insurgency doctrine that the defending force must overwhelmingly outnumber the insurgent force if it hopes to prevail.

If the latter were to happen, then a thoughtful U.S. Defence Secretary might write this:

"Deployment of the kind we have recommended will not guarantee success. Our intelligence estimate is that the present [enemy] policy is to continue to prosecute the war vigorously in the south. They continue to believe that the war will be a long one, that time is their ally, and that they own staying power is superior to ours. They recognize that the U.S. reinforcements signify a determination to avoid defeat, and that more U.S. troops can be expected.

We expect them, upon learning of any U.S. intentions to augment its forces, to boost their own commitment and to test U.S. capacities and will to persevere at a higher level of conflict and casualties... It follows, therefore, that the odds are about even that, even with the recommended deployments, we will be faced with a military standoff at a much higher level..."


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U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson, right, confers with Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara in this Nov. 23, 1963, file photo.

Which is what Robert McNamara did write on Dec. 7, 1965, in a cover note to President Lyndon Johnson that accompanied a proposal from the U.S. military leadership to massively increase U.S. ground forces in Southern Vietnam (you can find it in the Pentagon Papers, chapter 8, document 108).

As it turned out, McNamara was absolutely correct in this forecast. But it tragically took the United States 10 years, and some three million Vietnamese dead (along with 58,209 Americans killed, 303,635 wounded, and 1,948 missing-in-action), to accept it.

Afghanistan is not South Vietnam, but McNamara's point is applicable. Additional U.S. forces in anything like the kind of numbers currently being discussed can be offset by relatively easy, low-cost recruiting by the Pashtun insurgencies. If so, it is entirely possible that the present conflict will continue indefinitely at a much higher level.

Will it take three million Afghan dead to persuade us of this?

That would not be a just war, as defined by the Roman Catholic Church or by common sense. That would be a new sanguinary quagmire -- another evil and disorder worse than its alternative.

President Obama should therefore say "no thanks, not this time" to the proposal to enlarge the war. Instead he should take the road President Johnson did not in 1965 -- an orderly withdrawal of western forces.

With a remaining understanding:

Forces in Afghanistan who oppose the use of that country as a base for terrorist attacks in other countries should be plentifully and indefinitely supplied and supported.

And the United States and its allies should make clear -- and mean it (i.e. through new agreements and an appropriate permanent base structure) -- that a future Afghan government that provides sanctuary to al-Qaeda will again be destroyed.

One more word from the Catechism:

2313 Non-praeliantes, vulneratos milites et bello captos oportet observare et humaniter tractare. Actiones iuri gentium et eius universalibus principiis deliberate contrariae, et etiam iussiones quae illas praecipiunt, sunt crimina. Caeca quaedam oboedientia non sufficit ut ii, qui se illis submittunt, excusentur. ...

2313 Non-combatants, wounded soldiers, and prisoners must be respected and treated humanely. Actions deliberately contrary to the law of nations and to its universal principles are crimes, as are the orders that command such actions. Blind obedience does not suffice to excuse those who carry them out. ...

In other words, war criminals must be brought to justice.
 
E.R. Campbell: Not exactly what's on the locals' mind.  From The Torch:

Some AfPak constraints, or, the Indian elephant in the room
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/some-afpak-constraints-or-indian.html

How nice that Woodsworth is repudiated.  Esp. with hindsight as in Sept. 1939 no-one had any realistic idea how the war would evolve.  Which might be kept in mind when thinking about the consequences of Afstan falling again to the Taliban (and remember the Soviets were forced to withdraw, well before the Taliban even existed).  More relevant:
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/gates-and-generals-and-admirals.html

"...
GATES: ...The reality is, failure in Afghanistan would be a huge setback for the United States. Taliban and Al Qaida, as far as they're concerned, defeated one superpower. For them to be seen to defeat a second, I think, would have catastrophic consequences in terms of energizing the extremist movement, Al Qaida recruitment, operations, fundraising, and so on. I think it would be a huge setback for the United States...

GATES: ...I think if the president were to decide to approve additional combat forces, they really probably could not begin to flow until some time in January..."

More on "catastrophic consequences" here.
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/09/national-security-reasons-for-fighting.html
Remember that...
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2009/08/afstan-war-of-necessity.html

...many people in other societies still believe in the "strong horse" ("...when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse...")...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40750,00.html

One finds it hard to see al Qaeda and the Taliban worrying much over the finer points of Roman Catholic just war doctrine.  Neither, I think, should we.  Though we must indeed have some sense of proportionality.

But with, as far as I can see, the fact that some several thousand Afghans (less than 10,000 a year out of a population of 25-30 million) are dying from the war at this point would not be something about which I'd get too morally excited from any reasonable historical standard.

Mark
Ottawa
 
ER:  Very good article.  I'll use all my powers (ha!) and try to dissect the author's message.  But it will take time.
 
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