Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Kirkhill]

I don't think that would sell all that well. Just my opinion.

You may be right but the Americans seem to be the only people that Canadians react to at all.

 

[OldSolduer]

You may be right but the Americans seem to be the only people that Canadians react to at all.

You have a good point. I have to chuckle when I hear Canadians dissing the USA then go to Florida for a holiday.

 

[Kirkhill]

“The proportion of young men compared with young women failing to move from education into employment or training has been steadily growing for 30 years. Since the pandemic alone, the number of young men aged 16 to 24 who are not in education, employment or training has increased by a staggering 40 per cent compared with just seven per cent of young women.”

The great American author, Arlie Russell Hochschild, wrote that in great swathes of the US, young men in particular felt themselves “strangers in their own land”. The same trends are being seen here. How we respond will shape the next decade of politics.

Men are turning against ‘women’s rights’ in record numbers

A growing number think ‘feminism has gone far enough’. With boys now falling behind, this backlash was inevitable

www.telegraph.co.uk

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Canadian number was similar. Those lads are being supported by the Government or their parents. A uniform would give them a purpose and some of their pride.

 

[ytz]

Men are turning against ‘women’s rights’ in record numbers

A growing number think ‘feminism has gone far enough’. With boys now falling behind, this backlash was inevitable

www.telegraph.co.uk

It wouldn't surprise me to hear the Canadian number was similar. Those lads are being supported by the Government or their parents. A uniform would give them a purpose and some of their pride.

There's not a lot stopping them from signing up now (administrative issues aside). It's quite the testament to the CAF offer that they would rather stay in their parents' basement.

Last year I brought this up directly to the RCAF CWO at the RCAF Symposium. And he just equivocated when I asked how he was going to get young people who grew up in cities to go serve in Cold Lake. Half of Canada's population lives in the six largest urban agglomerations (Golden Horseshoe, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton). There is no recruiting strategy that will work without figuring out how to recruit from these places. It's just math.

American threat? Surveys have young people saying they are most likely to favour union with the US.

Pay is part of the problem. But there's a whole bunch of other quality of life issues too. And I don't think a lot of new kit automatically fixes a lot of this. Any strategy that doesn't mention pay is not worth the paper it's written on.

 

[Kirkhill]

There's not a lot stopping them from signing up now (administrative issues aside). It's quite the testament to the CAF offer that they would rather stay in their parents' basement.

Last year I brought this up directly to the RCAF CWO at the RCAF Symposium. And he just equivocated when I asked how he was going to get young people who grew up in cities to go serve in Cold Lake. Half of Canada's population lives in the six largest urban agglomerations (Golden Horseshoe, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton). There is no recruiting strategy that will work without figuring out how to recruit from these places. It's just math.

American threat? Surveys have young people saying they are most likely to favour union with the US.

Pay is part of the problem. But there's a whole bunch of other quality of life issues too. And I don't think a lot of new kit automatically fixes a lot of this. Any strategy that doesn't mention pay is not worth the paper it's written on.

Well,

 

[RangerRay]

To be fair to the King, he is following convention that the Canadian Government will give him speaking notes when they want him to speak. And since we don’t have a functioning government until at least mid March, what he might say now may be at odds with what the GoC’s real policy is ( I’m being generous to the LPC, the haven’t had policy on anything for 10 years!)

Who I hold in contempt is Starmer. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now I say “Fuck that guy”.

 

[dapaterson]

Who I hold in contempt is Starmer. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now I say “Fuck that guy”.

And yet, still better than Boris or Truss.

 

[ytz]

still better than Boris

Boris literally stopped an investigation into Russian influence in the UK and its effects on Brexit. One of the many compromised politicians who brought us to where we are.

 

[ytz]

We need to join this party....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896220456736182766

 

[Czech_pivo]

We need to join this party....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896220456736182766

And yet London Ontario has yet to receive a single order….

 

[suffolkowner]

And yet London Ontario has yet to receive a single order….

London is going to have to survive on Canada. Everyone else has other places to buy

 

[ytz]

And yet London Ontario has yet to receive a single order….

What's keeping them in business right now?

And didn't they just get a LAV order for Ukraine?

More London-made armoured vehicles bound for Ukraine as Canada stands firm

Support for Ukraine in its war with Russia again has thrust London into the global military arena, with the Canadian federal government pledging to send more locally made light armoured vehicles.

lfpress.com

 

[Maxman1]

Last year I brought this up directly to the RCAF CWO at the RCAF Symposium. And he just equivocated when I asked how he was going to get young people who grew up in cities to go serve in Cold Lake. Half of Canada's population lives in the six largest urban agglomerations (Golden Horseshoe, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton). There is no recruiting strategy that will work without figuring out how to recruit from these places. It's just math.

If only we had bases in those areas...

CFB Toronto - Wikipedia

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CFB London - Wikipedia

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CFB Chilliwack - Wikipedia

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CFB Calgary - Wikipedia

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CFB Ottawa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

CFB Montreal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Retired AF Guy]

True enough. I wonder how many contracts have been cancelled and sales lost in the past two weeks.

Funny you should mention that:

Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

Haltbakk Bunkers will cease supplying fuel to U.S. forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

 

[OldSolduer]

Boris literally stopped an investigation into Russian influence in the UK and its effects on Brexit. One of the many compromised politicians who brought us to where we are.

Boris couldn’t even comb his hair. If he did it was by thunder flash

Boom

 

[medicineman]

Funny you should mention that:

Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

Haltbakk Bunkers will cease supplying fuel to U.S. forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

 

[ytz]

If only we had bases in those areas...

The Chef's response? Well some privates told him that they like Cold Lake cause housing is cheaper.

These people, I swear.

He's talking to people who have already signed up. And next what Private is going to tell the RCAF Chief that he hates his posting?

We're not going to get those urban bases back. But at least can we look at things like putting a base back in Southwestern Ontario. And can we look at more travel assistance for these troops? Can we coordinate some infrastructure development towards remote bases?

It's not just the military that is out of touch. I see a lot of talk that young white guys are not signing up because of DEI. And all that talk isn't from young white guys. It's from old farts who don't know what Tinder is. Taking a kid from Toronto (even a young white guy) and sticking him in Cold Lake is basically taking him back 20 years in time. That's what he's going to feel when he opens Tinder and Uber Eats on his phone. And if that's your quality of life offer, the cheque better be huge and come with lots of time off, to go back to what he considers civilization.

 

[FSTO]

Taking a kid from Toronto (even a young white guy) and sticking him in Cold Lake is basically taking him back 20 years in time.

Join the Navy. Victoria and Halifax have those things.

 

[ytz]

Join the Navy. Victoria and Halifax have those things.

Yeah. But then you spend half your life in a moving metal can with 200 other sweaty bros.

Respect to my RCN bros who put up with that!

 

[FSTO]

Yeah. But then you spend half your life in a moving metal can with 200 other sweaty bros.

Respect to my RCN bros who put up with that!

Well 160 sweaty bros and 40 sweaty sises.

Don’t @ me!!!