Will 2021 see a new pistol buy?

[Good2Golf]

At least it's not a SERPA model.

Bianchi green nylon POS holster: “Hold my beer.”

 

[markppcli]

Bianchi green nylon POS holster: “Hold my beer.”

Ah the old level 0 retention option.

 

[childs56]

Bianchi green nylon POS holster: “Hold my beer.”

That holster was about as good as having a borrowed pistol in my pocket of my Cbt Shirt.

 

[PuckChaser]

I think it was actually a Level -1 retention because the holster would actively try to drop your pistol on the ground.

 

[markppcli]

I think it was actually a Level -1 retention because the holster would actively try to drop your pistol on the ground.

I liked that you can just pull it out from the back with the flap closed. That’s pretty neat.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Mag pocket on my tac vest is where I kept mine

 

[Haggis]

I think it was actually a Level -1 retention because the holster would actively try to drop your pistol on the ground.

Hence, the lanyard loop. At least you'll feel it dragging behind you.

 

[PuckChaser]

Hence, the lanyard loop. At least you'll feel it dragging behind you.

That stops you from throwing it at the target when it inevitably jams though.

 

[Good2Golf]

That stops you from throwing it at the target when it inevitably jams though.

Or *retrieving it and trying again if you miss on the first throw…

 

[Haggis]

Actually in unit. I for one am shocked.

It appears that the slide is our of battery and the barrel is missing.

 

[Haggis]

It was for the M9 not 1911
It was a massive mistake to acquire that holster and the fact they figured it fits an M9, it should fit the Inglis No2 Mk1* was just ineptitude.

Just catching up. You are, of course, correct. The M9 is dimensionally different enough from the BHP to cause the holster to be wholly unsuitable unless you were standing very still.

 

[markppcli]

It appears that the slide is our of battery and the barrel is missing.

Well yes the slide isn’t going to stay in battery without the barrel in, barrels stored separately because CAF rules of course.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Just catching up. You are, of course, correct. The M9 is dimensionally different enough from the BHP to cause the holster to be wholly unsuitable unless you were standing very still.

Just be vewwwy, vewwwy, quiet....

 

[Haggis]

Well yes the slide isn’t going to stay in battery without the barrel in, barrels stored separately because CAF rules of course.

You need to stage your photos better.

 

[OldSolduer]

Well yes the slide isn’t going to stay in battery without the barrel in, barrels stored separately because CAF rules of course.

OK question - will the continued rules contribute to the wear and tear of the pistol - continual assembly and disassembly to store IAW the rules?

I can say for certainty we overcleaned the FNC1A1 - the whole spotless weapon thing reduced their life IMO.

 

[KevinB]

OK question - will the continued rules contribute to the wear and tear of the pistol - continual assembly and disassembly to store IAW the rules?

I can say for certainty we overcleaned the FNC1A1 - the whole spotless weapon thing reduced their life IMO.

It doesn’t help.
The vast majority of Military weapons get the crap best out of them in training.
But assuming you aren’t doing it multiple times a day, the west from just disassembling and reassembling is minor.
Repeated TOETs, cleaning, and general mishandling are vastly worse.

Very few entities do Lifecycle testing for live rounds, let alone a sample size of 1 from death by TOET’s to firearms.
Ft Stewart has some data on the M4, M9 and M249, for their training fleet - as they have been trying to get baseline code for the round counters that are getting installed.
The big issues they saw, was that user mishandling and over cleaning caused more issues and couldn’t be effectively tracked.

Provided the weapons are stored properly (not in milk cartons in a filing cabinet) the assembly and disassembly should not be a major issue for wear.

Due to the nature of the Sig striker mechanism however, dry training will need to be monitored and wear tracked beyond just a round count.

 

[Haggis]

Due to the nature of the Sig striker mechanism however, dry training will need to be monitored and wear tracked beyond just a round count.

The Army spends so little effort on proper, quality pistol training, that this shouldn't be an issue.

 

[MysticMango]

Well, 2 years later, I can say that I like the opinions here, but from these year's choices, I will choose the Girsan MC 14T.

Girsan MC 14T has a distinct feature we rarely see in handguns: a “tip-up” loading barrel. While others have used this style before, the MC 14T is currently the only tip-up .380 on the market.

To load the MC 14T, you activate the release level on the right side, which causes the barrel to tip up, and then you can insert a round. Once loaded, you insert the magazine, giving you the plus-one capacity. The pistol can be cleared by dropping the magazine, tipping up the barrel, and removing the round. With fewer moving parts, it can be easier to manipulate for some.

 

[Haggis]

Well, 2 years later, I can say that I like the opinions here, but from these year's choices, I will choose the Girsan MC 14T.

Girsan MC 14T has a distinct feature we rarely see in handguns: a “tip-up” loading barrel. While others have used this style before, the MC 14T is currently the only tip-up .380 on the market.

To load the MC 14T, you activate the release level on the right side, which causes the barrel to tip up, and then you can insert a round. Once loaded, you insert the magazine, giving you the plus-one capacity. The pistol can be cleared by dropping the magazine, tipping up the barrel, and removing the round. With fewer moving parts, it can be easier to manipulate for some.

You're aware that the buy had already been made, right?

I can see a significant training bill with the MC 14T, notably when it comes to stoppage clearances and one handed manipulation with gloves.

 

[KevinB]

You're aware that the buy had already been made, right?

I can see a significant training bill with the MC 14T, notably when it comes to stoppage clearances and one handed manipulation with gloves.

If it is a tip up system like the Beretta .380’s you can also cycle the slide. But .380 is not a duty cartridge and most of those guns recoil worse than 9mm duty guns due to their action being basically straight blow back, and not a tilting barrel linkage.