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US Election: 2016

Don't bow out yet, it's just about to get interesting.  Didn't someone on here say a week is a long time in politics?  There are many weeks left and Trump just had a great week.  Go Trump!
 
RealClearPolitics Election 2016

Election 2016 Clinton Trump Spread
RCP Poll Average 46.8 41.5 Clinton +5.3
4-Way RCP Average 42.6 37.1 Clinton +5.5
Favorability Ratings -11.3 -29.3 Clinton +18.0

Betting Odds 79.0 21.0

I'll take a fiver at 4:1.

The most amusing bit is the Favorability Ratings - literally a case of "who do you hate least?"

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

And 20% looking for ????

 
I can see the new Trump Team is going back to the roots of Trumps's initial success and running an IO campaign that negates and even turns their enemies strength against them.

Trumps speeches on Immigration and how the Democrats have essentially betrayed black Americans cause no end of screeching among the chattering classes, but by screeching and virtue signalling, they are actually pushing his message much farther and faster than he would have done himself. The best part is they cannot help themselves, since doubling down is the second rule of SJWs (The first rule is they always lie, and the third rule is they always project. Listening them talk about what they see as a Trump Administration is a good way to predict what a Clinton Administration will be).

Coming at them from different angles, punching holes in their narratives and ultimately letting everyone see their true world views may not be enough to win the election, but it is certainly going to crash a lot of people's perceptions. I had the pleasure of having coffee with journalist Salim Mansur a while ago and he thinks this is battlefield preparation (much like Russian Hybrid Warfare), the real battle starts after the debates when the vast majority of Americans finally start paying attention to the campaign. Crashing the narrative now means the Democrats will essentially be starting from scratch when that time comes.

YMMV
 
1,500 American Refugees Wash up on the Canadian shore of Lake St. Claire seeking asylum ahead of November's election. No word if they were fleeing a Clinton or Trump presidency.

Ignore the comments about this being partiers. I suspect that there is a huge coverup going on, but the truth will come out sooner or later.

U.S. partiers wash up in Canada, blown across Lake St. Clair
'We had 1,500 people who were in complete need of help, and everyone walked away alive'


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/floatdown-sarnia-americans-wash-ashore-1.3730792

An estimated 1,500 Americans illegally and unexpectedly washed up in Canada late Sunday after strong winds blew them across the St. Clair River near Sarnia, Ont.

They were participating in the annual Port Huron Float Down, during which people simply float down the river on rafts, inner tubes and other flotation devices from Port Huron, Mich.

High winds pushed them to a number of points along the Canadian shore. They had to be rescued by Sarnia police, the OPP, the Canadian Coast Guard, Canada Border Service Agency and employees from a nearby chemical company Lanxess Canada.

Port Huron Float Down

"There were people in places you'd never think something would float, but there were Americans everywhere," Peter Garapick of the Canadian Coast Guard said. "There was no chance for anything floating or people on inner tubes to go anywhere but Canada."

Winds were consistently blowing at 10-15 knots and gusting up to 27 knots. That's sustained winds of about 20 km/h and gusts of 50 km/h.

"The people who take part in this are not mariners," Garapick said. "They don't look at the wind, the weather and the waves. We knew from the get-go, the winds were going to cause a problem. There's no question they were involuntarily coming to Canada."

'It got crazy'

Once the floaters were fished out of the water or simply gathered up on shore, they were shipped back to the U.S. on Sarnia Transit buses, with a police escort.

"It got crazy out there, but it worked out," the Sarnia Police Service posted on its Facebook page.

The event has no sponsors, and nobody is responsible for its operation. There's no registration process, either.

Shipping groups have been critical of the Float Down over its safety implications and its impact on their operations in the river.

St. Clair River 'not a playground' shipping groups warn

YouTube user Ernie Jacobs posted video of his group of floaters being "towed back to the United States from Canada. We had a little incident."

"They were terrified of entering another country without documentation. No one carries their passport or any ID, and a lot were drinking alcohol," Garapick said.

Some Americans, worried about landing in Canada without identification, attempted to swim back to the U.S.

"We had to pull a lot of people out of the water and say 'no,'" he said. "They were very upset, cold and miserable."

'Walked away alive'

On the shore, passersby were giving their shirts off their backs to get people warm.

The last bus left Sarnia at about 7:30 p.m., after people were picked up at a local gravel pit.

Garapick called Sunday's float down the "worst in the history of the event."

Port Huron Float Down endures on St. Clair River

"They don't have a mariner's sense. These are people who think they're going for a dip in the pool," he said. "We had 1,500 people who were in complete need of help, and everyone walked away alive."

He wishes the event would end.

"It would certainly make life easier and make it safer for everyone involved," he said. "But I don't see happening. Wishful thinking."
 
Well a wall would have stopped them. 

I think you are in fact correct.  More of this will happen in the coming months.  ;)

all joking aside though, its a pretty good testament to the relationship our countries have that this played out the way it did. 
 
cupper said:
[size=18pt]1,500 American Refugees Wash up on the Canadian shore of Lake St. Claire seeking asylum ahead of November's election.
..
Ignore the comments about this being partiers. I suspect that there is a huge coverup going on, but the truth will come out sooner or later.


Please tell me this is sarcasm...
 
cupper said:
1,500 American Refugees Wash up on the Canadian shore of Lake St. Claire seeking asylum ahead of November's election. No word if they were fleeing a Clinton or Trump presidency.

Ignore the comments about this being partiers. I suspect that there is a huge coverup going on, but the truth will come out sooner or later.

U.S. partiers wash up in Canada, blown across Lake St. Clair
'We had 1,500 people who were in complete need of help, and everyone walked away alive'


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/floatdown-sarnia-americans-wash-ashore-1.3730792

Bloody hell.  The Fenians are back!  :o
 
Remius said:
Please tell me that THIS is sarcasm..

I'm so confused now... do people actually thing there is some kind of conspiracy involved here? This event is not something new...
 
Lumber said:
I'm so confused now... do people actually thing there is some kind of conspiracy involved here? This event is not something new...

You asked Cupper if he was being sarcastic. 

I asked you if you were being sarcastic about asking him if he was being sarcastic. 

I am also confused as I thought you were being sarcastic about him being sarcastic.  I'm pretty sure he was.  But now I question if you were being sarcastic about him being sarcastic and actually believe that he might believe in the conspiracy theory.  One thing is certain, we need to use eth sarcasm emoji more often to ensure that we are showing sarcasm.

Also we need a wall in the water to stop this invasion.

:sarcasm:
 
Remius said:
You asked Cupper if he was being sarcastic. 

I asked you if you were being sarcastic about asking him if he was being sarcastic. 

I am also confused as I thought you were being sarcastic about him being sarcastic.  I'm pretty sure he was.  But now I question if you were being sarcastic about him being sarcastic and actually believe that he might believe in the conspiracy theory.  One thing is certain, we need to use eth sarcasm emoji more often to ensure that we are showing sarcasm.

Also we need a wall in the water to stop this invasion.

:sarcasm:

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Can someone go over why Hillary is qualified or eligible to run for office again?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/new-abedin-emails-reveal-hillary-clinton-state-department-gave-special-access-top-clinton-foundation-donors/

New Abedin Emails Reveal Hillary Clinton State Department Gave Special Access to Top Clinton Foundation Donors

AUGUST 22, 2016
Crown Prince of Bahrain Forced to Go Through Foundation to See Clinton, after Pledging $32 Million to Clinton Global Initiative

Hollywood Executive Casey Wasserman, Slimfast Mogul Daniel Abraham, Controversial Appointee Rajiv Fernando also among Clinton Foundation Donors Granted Special Favors from Clinton State Department

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released 725 pages of new State Department documents, including previously unreleased email exchanges in which former Hillary Clinton’s top aide Huma Abedin provided influential Clinton Foundation donors special, expedited access to the secretary of state. In many instances, the preferential treatment provided to donors was at the specific request of Clinton Foundation executive Douglas Band.

The new documents included 20 Hillary Clinton email exchanges not previously turned over to the State Department, bringing the known total to date to 191 of new Clinton emails (not part of the 55,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department).  These records further appear to contradict statements by Clinton that, “as far as she knew,” all of her government emails were turned over to the State Department.

The Abedin emails reveal that the longtime Clinton aide apparently served as a conduit between Clinton Foundation donors and Hillary Clinton while Clinton served as secretary of state. In more than a dozen email exchanges, Abedin provided expedited, direct access to Clinton for donors who had contributed from $25,000 to $10 million to the Clinton Foundation. In many instances, Clinton Foundation top executive Doug Band, who worked with the Foundation throughout Hillary Clinton’s tenure at State, coordinated closely with Abedin. In Abedin’s June deposition to Judicial Watch, she conceded that part of her job at the State Department was taking care of “Clinton family matters.”

Included among the Abedin-Band emails is an exchange revealing that when Crown Prince Salman of Bahrain requested a meeting with Secretary of State Clinton, he was forced to go through the Clinton Foundation for an appointment. Abedin advised Band that when she went through “normal channels” at State, Clinton declined to meet. After Band intervened, however, the meeting was set up within forty-eight hours. According to the Clinton Foundation website, in 2005, Salman committed to establishing the Crown Prince’s International Scholarship Program (CPISP) for the Clinton Global Initiative. And by 2010, it had contributed $32 million to CGI. The Kingdom of Bahrain reportedly gave between $50,000 and $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation. And Bahrain Petroleum also gave an additional $25,000 to $50,000.

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Tue Jun 23 1:29:42 2009

Subject:

Cp of Bahrain in tomorrow to Friday

Asking to see her

Good friend of ours

From: Huma Abedin

To: Doug Band

Sent: Tue Jun 23 4:12:46 2009

Subject: Re:

He asked to see hrc thurs and fri thru normal channels. I asked and she said she doesn’t want to commit to anything for thurs or fri until she knows how she will feel. Also she says that she may want to go to ny and doesn’t want to be committed to stuff in ny…

From: Huma Abedin [Huma@clintonemail.com]

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:35:15 AM

To: Doug Band

Subject:

Offering Bahrain cp 10 tomorrow for meeting woith [sic] hrc

If u see him, let him know

We have reached out thru official channels

Also included among the Abedin-Band emails is an exchange in which Band urged Abedin to get the Clinton State Department to intervene in order to obtain a visa for members of the Wolverhampton (UK) Football Club, one of whose members was apparently having difficulty because of a “criminal charge.” Band was acting at the behest of Casey Wasserman, a millionaire Hollywood sports entertainment executive and President of the Wasserman Foundation. Wasserman has donated between $5 million and $10 million to the Clinton Foundation through the Wasserman Foundation.

From: Tim Hoy [VP Wasserman Media Group]

Date: Tue. 5 May 2009 10:45:55 – 0700

To: Casey Wasserman

Subject: [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

Casey: Paul Martin’s [popular English footballer] client [Redacted] needs to get an expedited appointment at the US Embassy in London this week and we have hit some road blocks. I am writing to ask for your help.

The Wolverhampton FC is coming to Las Vegas this Thursday for a “celebration break.” [Redacted] so he cannot get a visa to the US without first being “interviewed” in the visa section of the US Embassy in London …

I contacted Senator Boxer’s office in SF for help … They balked at the criminal charge and said they “couldn’t help.”

I’m now trying to get help from Sherrod Brown’s office but that’s not going well either. So do you have any ideas/contacts that could contact the US Embassy in London and ask that they see [Redacted] tomorrow?

From: Casey Wasserman

To: Doug Band; Trista Schroeder [Wasserman Media Group executive]

Sent: Tue May 05 2:23:50 2009 [PT]

Subject: FW [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

Can you help with the below [Hoy email], or maybe Huma??? I am copying trista as I am on the plane in case I lose connection … thx.

From: Doug Band

Sent: Tue May 05 7:08:21 2009 [ET]

To: Casey Wasserman; Trista Schroeder

Subject: Re: [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

Will email her.

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Tue May 5 7:26:49 2009

Subject: Fw: [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

[As per subject line, Band apparently forwarded Abedin material sent to him by Casey.]

From: Huma Abedin [Huma@clintonemail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:39:38 PM

To: Doug Band

Subject: Re: [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

I doubt we can do anything but maybe we can help with an interview. I’ll ask.

From: Huma Abedin

To: Doug Band

Sent: Tue May 05 5:50:09 2009

Subject: Re: [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

I got this now, makes me nervous to get involved but I’ll ask.

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:43:30 PM

Subject:  Re: [Redacted] Wolverhampton FC/visa matter

Then don’t

The Abedin emails also reveal that Slimfast tycoon S. Daniel Abraham was granted almost immediate access to then-Secretary of State Clinton, with Abedin serving as the facilitator. According to the Clinton Foundation website, Abraham, like the Wasserman Foundation, has given between $5 million and $10 million to the Clinton Foundation. The emails indicate that Abraham was granted almost immediate access to Clinton upon request:

From: Huma Abedin

To: H

Sent: Mon May 04 4:40:34 2009

Subject: Danny

Danny abraham called this morning. He is in dc today and tomorrow and asked for 15 min with you. Do u want me to try and fit him in tomorrow?

From: H

To Huma Abedin

Sent: Mon May 04 5:14:00 2009

Subject: Re: Danny

Will the plane wait if I can’t get there before 7-8?

From: Huma Abedin

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:15:30 PM

Subject: Re: Danny

Yes of course

Additional Abedin emails in which the top Clinton aide intervenes with the State Department on behalf of Clinton Foundation donors include the following:

On Friday, June 26, 2009, Clinton confidant Kevin O’Keefe wrote to Clinton saying that “Kevin Conlon is trying to set up a meeting with you and a major client.” Clinton wrote to Abedin, “Can you help deliver these for Kevin?” Abedin responded, “I’ll look into it asap” Kevin O’Keefe donated between $10,000 and $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Kevin Conlon is a Clinton presidential campaign “Hillblazer” who has raised more than $100,000 for the candidate.

On Tuesday, June 16, 2009, Ben Ringel wrote to Abedin, “I’m on shuttle w Avigdor Liberman. I called u back yesterday. I want to stop by to see hrc tonite for 10 mins.” Ringel donated between $10,000 and $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
On Monday, July 6, 2009, Maureen White wrote to Abedin, “I am going to be in DC on Thursday. Would she have any time to spare?” Abedin responded, “Yes I’ll make it work.” White donated $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

In June 2009, prominent St. Louis political power broker Joyce Aboussie exchanged a series of insistent emails with Abedin concerning Aboussie’s efforts to set up a meeting between Clinton and Peabody Energy VP Cartan Sumner. Aboussie wrote, “Huma, I need your help now to intervene please. We need this meeting with Secretary Clinton, who has been there now for nearly six months. This is, by the way, my first request. I really would appreciate your help on this. It should go without saying that the Peabody folks came to Dick [Gephardt] and I because of our relationship with the Clinton’s.” After further notes from Aboussie, Abedin responded, “We are working on it and I hope we can make something work… we have to work through the beauracracy [sic] here.” Aboussie donated between $100,000 and $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

On Saturday, May 16, 2009, mobile communications executive and political activist Jill Iscol wrote to Clinton, “Please advise to whom I should forward Jacqueline Novogratz’s request [for a meeting with the secretary of state]. I know you know her, but honestly, she is so far ahead of the curve and brilliant I believe she could be enormously helpful to your work.” Clinton subsequently sent an email to Abedin saying, “Pls print.” Jill and husband Ken Iscol donated between $500,000 and $1 million to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton subsequently appointed Novogratz to the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board.

The newly obtained Abedin emails also contain a memorandum sent to Cheryl Mills from State Department White House liaison Laura Pena revealing that Rajiv Fernando was proposed for his controversial appointment to the sensitive International Security Advisory Board as early as June 2009. Fernando was not actually appointed until 2011, and his appointment raised a firestorm because, according to an ABC News report, “he had no obvious experience in the field.” Fernando donated $1 million to the Clinton Foundation.

The Abedin emails reveal that even U2’s Bono got into the act when former Bill Clinton aide Ben Schwerin, who helped set up the Clinton Foundation, urged Abedin to help the aging rock star broadcast from the international space station. In a May 27, 2009, email with the subject line “Bono/NASA,” Schwerin wrote, “Bono wants to do linkup with the international space station on every show during the tour this year.… Any ideas? Thks.” Bono has been a donor to the Clinton Global Initiative. And in 2011, he gathered top entertainers for “A Decade of Difference: A Concert Celebrating 10 Years of the William J. Clinton Foundation.” According to USA Today, “Some tickets were sold to the public for $50 to $550, and premium seats went for $1,000 to $5,000 on the Foundation website.”

“These new emails confirm that Hillary Clinton abused her office by selling favors to Clinton Foundation donors,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “There needs to be a serious, independent investigation to determine whether Clinton and others broke the law.”

This is the tenth set of records produced for Judicial Watch by the State Department from the non-state.gov email accounts of Huma Abedin.  The documents were produced under a court order in a May 5, 2015, Freedom of Information (FOIA) lawsuit against the State Department (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00684)) requiring the agency to produce “all emails of official State Department business received or sent by former Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin from January 1, 2009 through February 1, 2013, using a ‘non-state’.gov email address.”

In June, Judicial Watch uncovered two batches (here and here) of new Clinton email records through court-ordered discovery.  Twice in May, Judicial Watch uncovered new Clinton emails, including emails that show Clinton knew about the security risk of her BlackBerry (see here and here).

Recently, Judicial Watch released other State Department emails (one batch of 103 pages, the second of 138 pages), with newly discovered Clinton emails also going back as far as January 2009.

In March, Judicial Watch released Clinton State Department emails dating from February 2009 that also call into question her statements about her emails. Those emails contained more evidence of the battle between security officials in the State Department, National Security Agency, Clinton and her staff over attempts to obtain secure BlackBerrys.

On August 9, Judicial Watch produced a 2009 email in which Band directed Abedin and Mills to put Lebanese-Nigerian billionaire and Clinton Foundation donor Gilbert Chagoury in touch with the State Department’s “substance person” on Lebanon. Band noted that Chagoury is “key guy there [Lebanon] and to us.” Chagoury has donated between $1 million to $5 million to the Foundation, according to foundation documents. He also pledged $1 billion to the Clinton Global Initiative.

Hillary Clinton has repeatedly stated that she believes that the 55,000 pages of documents she turned over to the State Department in December 2014 included all of her work-related emails.  In response to a court order in other Judicial Watch litigation, she declared under penalty of perjury that she had “directed that all my emails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or are potentially federal records be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.” This new email find is also at odds with her official campaign statement suggesting all “work or potentially work-related emails” were provided to the State Department.

 
and:

FBI uncovers 14,900 more documents in Clinton email probe
By Spencer S. Hsu August 22 at 2:42 PM

The FBI’s year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.

Justice Department lawyers said last week that the State Department would review and turn over Clinton’s work-related emails to a conservative legal group. The records are among “tens of thousands” of documents found by the FBI in its probe and turned over to the State Department, Justice Department attorney Lisa Ann Olson said Monday in court.

The 14,900 Clinton documents are nearly 50 percent more than the roughly 30,000 emails that Clinton’s lawyers deemed work-related and returned to the department in December 2014.

Lawyers for the State Department and Judicial Watch, the legal group, are negotiating a plan for the release of the emails in a civil public records lawsuit before U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg of Washington.

[Clinton Foundation to restrict foreign, corporate donations if Hillary Clinton wins]

The biggest moments from FBI Director James Comey's testimony  Play Video6:56

FBI Director James Comey testified on July 7 at a U.S. House of Representatives hearing on presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's decision to use a personal email server while serving as Secretary of State. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
In a statement after a hearing at the U.S. district courthouse in Washington, Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said the group was pleased that Boasberg rejected the department’s proposal to begin releasing documents weekly on Oct. 14, ordering it instead to prioritize Clinton’s emails and to return to court Sept. 22 with a new plan.

“We’re pleased the court accelerated the State Department’s timing,” Fitton said. “We’re trying to work with the State Department here, but let’s be clear: They have slow-walked and stonewalled the release of these records. They’ve had many of them since July 25 ... and not one record has yet been released, and we don’t understand why that’s the case.”

In a statement, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said the agency previously agreed voluntarily to hand over emails sent or received by Clinton in her official capacity as secretary from 2009 to 2013 but that tens of thousands of documents would have to be “carefully appraised at State” to separate official records from personal ones.

“State has not yet had the opportunity to complete a review of the documents to determine whether they are agency records or if they are duplicative of documents State has already produced through the Freedom of Information Act,” Toner said. “We cannot comment further as this matter is in ongoing litigation.”

Judicial Watch filed the lawsuit in May 2015 after disclosures that Clinton had exclusively used a personal email server while secretary of state. Judicial Watch had sought all emails sent or received by Clinton at the State Department in a request made under the federal Freedom of Information Act, which covers the release of public records.

[Email batch provides additional evidence that Clinton Foundation donors got access at State Department]

Monday’s hearing comes seven weeks after the Justice Department closed a criminal investigation without charges into the handling of classified material in Clinton’s email setup, which FBI Director James B. Comey called “extremely careless.”

On Aug. 5, the FBI completed transferring what Comey said were several thousand previously undisclosed work-related Clinton emails that the FBI found in its investigation for the State Department to review and make public. Government lawyers until now had given no details about how many emails the FBI found or when the full set would be released. It is unclear how many documents might be attachments, duplicates or exempt from release for privacy or legal reasons.

Government lawyers disclosed last week that the FBI has turned over eight computer discs of information: one including emails and attachments that were sent directly to or from Clinton, or to or from her at some point in an email chain, and were not previously turned over by her lawyers; a second with classified documents; another with emails returned by Clinton; and five containing materials from other people retrieved by the FBI.

The 14,900 documents at issue now come from the first disc, Fitton said.

In announcing the FBI’s findings in July, Comey said investigators found no evidence that the emails it found “were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them.” Like many users, Clinton periodically deleted emails, or they were purged when devices were changed.

Clinton’s lawyers also may have deleted some of the emails as “personal,” Comey said, noting their review relied on header information and search terms, not a line-by-line reading as the FBI conducted.

Also on Monday, a GOP lawmaker issued subpoenas to three private companies that helped run or protect Clinton’s email server. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who chairs the Committee on Science, Space and Technology, is demanding documents by Sept. 9 after the firms declined earlier this year to produce them voluntarily.

The demands are part of a joint probe by Smith and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), who heads the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs panel. The lawmakers say that while the criminal investigation has ended, they have questions about the structure and security of Clinton’s email system and whether it met federally-recommended standards for cybersecurity and record preservation.

The subpoenas target Platte River Networks, which provided information technology services for Clinton’s server; Datto, Inc., which furnished immediate recovery of back-up data in the event the primary server failed; and SECNAP Network Security Corp., which carried out threat monitoring of the network connected to Clinton’s server. The firms’ services were retained in 2013.

A science committee aide said they are looking for information about breaches or potential breaches, and documents that detail the firms’ scope of work, for example.

“Companies providing services to Secretary Hillary Clinton’s private email account and server are not above the law,” said Smith. The data sought, he said, is “critical to…informing policy changes in how to prevent similar email arrangements in the future.”
 
Thucydides said:
Can someone go over why Hillary is qualified or eligible to run for office again?
OK, I came back. Didn't last long :dunno:

:sarcasm:




Because it's all lies and conspiracy. She really is a sweetheart and would never do anything wrong. Trump is evil, he used words that some people don't like. She is the only choice. Ignore her perjury, access for money schemes, ties to Soros, vote rigging and health problems. She's entitled to be POTUS. It's her destiny. :whistle:


:sarcasm:
 
Lumber said:
Please tell me this is sarcasm...

I am exercising my rights under the fifth ammendment of the US Constitution to refuse to answer as it may or may not incriminate me.  ;D

FBI uncovers 14,900 more documents in Clinton email probe

Phew, thats better. The mainstream media is reporting that it was 15,000. And if that was true then she'd have a problem.  :pop:
 
If this is any indication, the circle is closing on her...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/judicial-watch-clinton-emails/index.html



 
recceguy said:
OK, I came back. Didn't last long :dunno:

I missd you dude! How've you been? ;)

recceguy said:
Because it's all lies and conspiracy. She really is a sweetheart and would never do anything wrong. Trump is evil, he used words that some people don't like. She is the only choice. Ignore her perjury, access for money schemes, ties to Soros, vote rigging and health problems. She's entitled to be POTUS. It's her destiny.

See, I knew you would come over to the dark side. It was the cookies, wasn't it?

;D
 
"Wrestling"? Pondering with many sleepless nights? Really? Something tells me he might instead come up with "You're deported!" slogan to replace his signature "You're Fired!" phrase.  ;D

Tribune Washington Bureau

Trump ‘wrestling’ with how — and whether — to deport 11 million people
Tribune Washington Bureau

By Brian Bennett
3 hrs ago

Aides to Donald Trump suggested Sunday that the Republican presidential nominee may be reconsidering his campaign promise to round up and deport 11 million people who are in the United States illegally.

His new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, was asked on CNN’s “State of the Union” if Trump still wants a “deportation force” to remove everyone in the country illegally.

“To be determined,” she said.

(...SNIPPED)
 
Its a big issue today in the mainstream media.

They have cancelled three huge rallys events over the next seven days, the first scheduled for Thursday in Colorado which was supposed to be the immigration policy speech.

The big question is why cancel three events? And there seems to be mixed messages coming from the campaign since the meeting with hispanic Republicans on Saturday. The take away from that meeting by the invitees was that he may be softening his stance, and perhaps dropping the deportation forces from his plans.

But Bannon on his Breitbart show Sunday said that he won't be softening his stance on deportation. But Kellyanne Conway said on the Sunday talkshows that deportation forces was "to be determined".

Media travelling with Trump are reporting from their sources inside the campaign that there is still confusion within the camp on messaging, policy, and even scheduling.
 
There are also reports that he is laying low to not create news in order to allow the bad press on Clinton to be at the forefront of the news cycle for a change. 

With all that has surfaced, how can anyone consider Clinton for POTUS? 

This election is Establishment vs The People.  The more pundits suggest only fools/idiots/uneducated would vote Trump, the more people will turn to Trump.  This could go in a similar fashion as the most recent Alberta election when a pretentious Prentice told Albertans to look in the mirror for blame on failings in government...after 40 years of conservative rule.  I think this election will essentially be: "Out with you!" to the political class/establishment who consider themselves the elite when it is becoming more and more evident some of them are corrupt.  The Clinton Foundation, how could that be allowed to go on is beyond me. 

My guess is Trump takes the win by 10 points or more. 

 
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