kkwd
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More silliness from The House.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-require-donald-trump-undergo-034316134.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-require-donald-trump-undergo-034316134.html
kkwd said:More silliness from The House.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-require-donald-trump-undergo-034316134.html
Bird_Gunner45 said:It's probably a fact based decision based on rational and reasoned analysis, of which Trump is known for. Unfortunately, Trump is unlikely to fire the real problem in the white house.....
Loachman said:There is no indication that President Trump has any white supremacist or racist inclinations whatsoever, or evidence of him "fueling hate", "dividing our country", or "giving a voice to white supremacists".
"Is Trump the Racist Monster Most Blacks Believe Him to Be?": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAM7JKajBlw
"Why I'm a Black Woman Voting for Donald J Trump": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgFHuMaqVpU
"Mar-a-Lago": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago - "Trump instead turned the estate into a private club that - unlike other Palm Beach old money resorts like the Bath and Tennis Club and Everglades Club - accepted as members Jews, blacks..."
"22 Things You Should Know About Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump's 'Winter White House'": http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8679174/mar-a-lago-donald-trump-mansion-palm-beach-facts/ - "Trump’s lawyers then sent every member of the town council copies of A Gentleman’s Agreement, a movie about a journalist who pretends to be Jewish to expose anti-Semitism, and Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, another movie about a white couple’s reaction to their daughter bringing home a black fiancé. The movies were to push Trump’s claims that local officials accepted private clubs that excluded Jews and blacks, but imposed tough restrictions on his “inclusive one.” Trump later used this to bolster his claims on Good Morning America that “there’s nobody that’s done so much for equality” as he has."
"Donald Trump Claims No One Has 'Done So Much for Equality as I Have'": http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-claims-equality/story?id=37305333 - "Donald Trump today addressed the controversial support from former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, saying he 'disavowed' Duke and that he has done 'so much for equality.'
'There's nobody that's done so much for equality as I have, 'Trump said on 'Good Morning America.'
He added: 'You take a look at Palm Beach, Florida. I built the Mar-a-Lago Club totally open to everybody. A club that frankly set a new standard in clubs and a new standard in Palm Beach and I've gotten great credit for it.'"
"Trump Disavows Racists Over and Over Again - While Media Says Exactly the Opposite": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoXThCb8EZA - He cannot control, however, what racists/white supremacists say about him. He is not "giving a voice" to them, though. That would be Democrat-supporting CNN, MSNBC etcetera.
RR: The odds are still very heavily in favor of Hillary Clinton becoming president. My real concern at this point is Donald Trump’s supporters continue to fulminate. Some of them will feel that the election is illegitimate. Trump will continue to fan those flames and that will make it even harder for not just Hillary Clinton to govern, but the entire process of government to move forward.
The most irresponsible possible action that anybody in public life can take is to undermine public confidence in our system of government. If I were not being prudent with my words, I’d say anybody who has the public’s ear, who is undermining our democratic system, is acting in a traitorous fashion. I will mind my words, so I will not use the word traitorous.
I think all of our expectations should be held in check. I think that Paul Ryan is going to be the last Republican standing, and he is going to be under a lot of pressure from House Republicans to do crazy things like impeach Hilary Clinton. The wiggle room that both of them have is going to be very narrow, domestically.
mariomike said:In today's news,
Secret Service
https://www.google.ca/search?q=trump+%22secret+service%22&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A8%2F21%2F2017%2Ccd_max%3A8%2F21%2F2017&tbm=
#Trump Secret Service
https://twitter.com/search?q=trump+%22secret+service%22&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch
kkwd said:With celebrities like Johnny Depp and politicians like Maria Chappelle-Nadal suggesting Trump be assassinated you would think they would have blown the budget sooner.
kkwd said:With celebrities like Johnny Depp and politicians like Maria Chappelle-Nadal suggesting Trump be assassinated you would think they would have blown the budget sooner.
kkwd said:I'm not making any judgements on this yet. It is interesting that this may be a genuine "Russia Collusion" case.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/19/it-staffers-may-have-compromised-sensitive-data-to-foreign-intelligence/
NRA videos warn elites 'we're coming for you'
Published August 26, 2017 Fox News
The National Rifle Association has drawn fire in recent months for a series of videos criticizing prominent liberal forces and the mainstream media, with some warning that the group is resorting to language that could incite violence.
Using the hashtags #counterresistance and #clenchedfistoftruth, the NRA has put out a series of videos that announce a "shot across the bow," and say the gun-rights group is "coming for you" and that "elites ... threaten our very survival," terms that suggest opponents are enemy combatants.
The videos describe the left and the media as out of control and feeding a false narrative that Tea Party conservatives are racists and Trump supporters are "toothless hillbillies."
"The times are burning and the media elites have been caught holding the match," NRA spokeswoman and radio host Dana Loesch says in one video aired on NRATV, the gun lobby's web video site, as it shows footage of people fighting police, breaking storefront glass and burning the American flag.
Later, she specifically calls out The New York Times: "We've had it with your narratives, your propaganda, your fake news. We've had it with your constant protection of your Democrat overlords, your refusal to acknowledge any truth that upsets the fragile construct that you believe is real life. And we've had it with your tone-deaf assertion that you are in any way truth or fact-based journalism," Loesch says. "Consider this the shot across your proverbial bow. ... In short? We're coming for you."
Kathleen Hall Jamieson, the director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania, told the Associated Press the tone and language is "overwrought rhetoric" that, viewed by the wrong person, could lead to violence. The kicker on one of the videos — "We're coming for you" — is straight out of the movies, she said, and "that phrase means that violence is imminent and we will perpetrate it."
The friction between the gun lobby and the media isn't new. But critics of the NRA contend the organization is relying on the "fake news" mantra started by Trump to whip up its followers after a dip in gun sales that has taken place since Trump succeeded President Barack Obama, who favored stricter gun-control laws.
"They're not inventing this hyperangry, nasty partisan tone but piggybacking on Trump's approach. Of course, NRA voters by and large are Trump voters, so they would be sympathetic to that kind of message," said Robert Spitzer, chairman of the political science department at State University of New York at Cortland, who has examined the firearms industry and Second Amendment issues extensively.
Spitzer, a member of the NRA as well as the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said it's a pattern the NRA has exhibited as the group evolved from an almost exclusive focus on gun safety into a political beacon for conservatives who fear changes to the Second Amendment and the gun industry.
"It was Bill Clinton in the 1990s. In the early 2000s, it was John McCain. It was Hillary Clinton. It was the United Nations. They've held up the U.N. as ready to swoop in and take everybody's guns," Spitzer said. "The focus of their ire has changed, but the basic message has been the same."
Earlier this month, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said: "There is no longer any difference between our politicians and the elite media who report on them. ... These elites threaten our very survival, and to them we say: We don't trust you, we don't fear you, and we don't need you. Take your hands off our future."
Erich Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, said it's been a longtime frustration with journalists who, he contends, "ignore the violence and harsh rhetoric on the left while magnifying and twisting the words of those on the right."
The NRA videos prompted Mike Nelson, a Democratic congressional candidate in Arkansas and self-described hunter and gun-rights supporter, to label them as "hate speech." Nelson, whose website lists the NRA among more than two dozen organization he's supported, said he can no longer back the NRA.
In a Facebook post, Nelson wrote: "If the NRA does not stop their hate campaign, I will call them out on sedition. Sedition is the willful undermining of the legal authority, the Incitement of Violence."
Some gun owners have cheered the videos and said they give voice to conservatives weary of media attacks on Trump; others say the videos stray from the NRA's original mission and that the NRA is inviting violence.
Joe Plenzler, a Marine veteran who served overseas and sometimes had reporters accompanying his unit, joined two other veterans in writing an opinion piece for The Daily Beast criticizing the videos.
"The NRA props up the Second Amendment by undermining and vilifying the protections afforded in the First, and paints everyone who may disagree with the current administration, our country's justice system, or the NRA's partisan political position with a very dark and unjust broad brush," Plenzler wrote with Marine veterans Craig Tucker and Kyleanne Hunter.
Plenzler, who has since dropped his NRA membership, said he was disturbed by the videos.
"Lately, it seems like they've gone well out of the bounds of any sort of sane responsible behavior. If you want to advocate for the Second Amendment, which I unapologetically believe in, that's fine," he said. "But I think at the point where you are going to demonize half the American population in a recruitment effort to get more members, I've got a big problem with that."
A Disgusting Racist Disgrace.
Jarnhamar said:Some very telling tweets from "Charitable Humans" about the hurricane in the US.
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We’re Horrified By Our Twitter Actions
There are no words to express the distaste and hateful words that our Social Media Coordinator unleashed on what was supposed to represent Charitable Humans, an organization that has engaged in global humanitarianism activities in war-torn and severely impoverished nations since 2005. The purpose of our charity was, and so remains, to make the world a better place by focusing on a larger mandate of cultivating a global citizenship initiative along with an online platform for active engagement, and a platform to help people and nonprofit organizations like ours further the reach and impact of good deeds.
We don’t condone the denouncement or imperilment of any human, individual or group, no matter what atrocities they might guilty of; ultimately because that serves no useful purpose and is rather an impairment to progressive change. Our views extend equally toward those that do good and evil in the world, for both have much to teach us about the state of humanity. We’re not for a moment implying that the targets in which the Tweets offensive content are either good, bad, or otherwise because we don’t believe those words are more than labels based upon an individuals perception of an other.
We take full responsibility for this outrageous lack of leadership, for which there is no excuse, though there is an explanation we’d like to put forward in the interest of transparency. We are not a large organization, and we’ve invested much time and sacrifice trying to undertake an endeavor that is much greater than we have the resources or team members to focus on at the capacity needed.
While continuing in our humanitarian programs, we’re also working to develop further the massive program that we envision shortly coming to fruition. Our website has much work that needs doing, and we’re not at the stage where any postings or social media activity, beyond future announcements, are warranted. Since that hasn’t been our focus, we haven’t paid any consideration whatsoever to our social media channels, else greater concern and action would have halted this level of conduct much earlier. We failed in this oversight and sincerely apologize.
We have closed down the social media accounts, though there will be other content distribution channels that we’re exploring could exist, and as that is underway, we will take similar action as we become more aware of the situation.
Half the team is out of the country at this time, so please bear with us as we fumble through this unexpected terrain in a field we have little experience in, which is more visible to the world and ourselves at this time for reasons that are clear to all. We hope that people reserve judgment of our organization as a whole until our project can stand on its own merits once it’s up and running.
We have learned many lessons from the nightmare of an experience and again apologize deeply to all those undergoing an already treacherous crisis that seems to be getting much worse with each news update. Hopefully, the response teams, professional service providers, and infrastructure that will be critical to the relief efforts will deploy with utter urgency and sufficient levels to get people the support they need.
The Charitable Humans Team
Jarnhamar said:Of course they did, it would be even more suicidal not to post some half-assed apology. That's pretty much the standard isn't it? Say something insane over social media, get called out on it, mumble an apology and then wait for the storm to blow over. (did you read their whole apology, pretty lame even as far as lame apologies go)
Apologies mean nothing in this day and age, they're a dime a dozen.
What's important here, in my little opinion, is that a tax-exempt charitable company is calling for the incineration of US states that don't give with their political views. Sorry but that's really ****ed up. Because some states are red they can piss off and die. It's a reflection of the US left-wing political views. I see them deleting their SM as more of a ***-covering and try to avoid fall out than some sense of wrong-doing.
These tweets are indicative of the US political left.