GK .Dundas
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It's only fair.
U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)
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A Transactional World -
A world of transactions. To get you must give. Also known as working for a living.
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nice little snippet of former PM Harper
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Screwed up , please delete.
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GK .Dundas
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I get the impression that Mr. Trump may not understand that concept as well as he claims.
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He doesn't work. His money works for him.
I don’t even think it’s that.
Greenland, Panama, Canada. There is a very noticeable common thread. That’s what he’s after.
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Unpopular Opinion Alert:
People need to wake up and face the facts..... The World that our current leadership and the general public think we are operating in, no longer exists.
What is happening right now is 21st Century Imperialism. This was never a problem when the US was a global hegemonic power but now that it is waning in that regard, it is moving to secure its interests & its sphere of influence. America can no longer dominate the World but it can still secure its hemisphere which, given its separation, gives it competitive advantage.
As for Canada, we are a Vassal State that has existed & prospered under American benevolence & protection for the past 80+ years. That benevolence has ended and Canada has a choice to make. Canada & Canadians need to get on the same page as Team America.
People need to wake up and face the facts..... The World that our current leadership and the general public think we are operating in, no longer exists.
What is happening right now is 21st Century Imperialism. This was never a problem when the US was a global hegemonic power but now that it is waning in that regard, it is moving to secure its interests & its sphere of influence. America can no longer dominate the World but it can still secure its hemisphere which, given its separation, gives it competitive advantage.
As for Canada, we are a Vassal State that has existed & prospered under American benevolence & protection for the past 80+ years. That benevolence has ended and Canada has a choice to make. Canada & Canadians need to get on the same page as Team America.
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i think the -2% is optimistic. 1991ish was the last real recession and it did that by itself. We have a lot of problems all hitting the boiling point at the same time
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FIFY.
We’ve bought a lot of guns over the past 80 years that have enabled others butter, and we are over it.
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I think that I'll disagree with that. There has been neither benevolence nor protection by the US for the last 80 years. Effectively there has been disinterest on their part with the exception of a few mutual endeavours that we cooperated on. Our mutual geographic isolation from the rest of the world and our shared language and (for the most part) culture has left Canada and the US more in a symbiotic relationship rather than anything else.
Canada (by which I mean the Liberal Party) has used the US as a a bugbear for a long time by creating an attitude that Canadian culture is "not US." Essentially we started the "anti-" game long ago. For the most part Americans couldn't give a hoot about Canada one way or the other. And they still don't.
Trump is using Canada, like Mexico, like Greenland, like Panama, like NATO, like everything else, as strawmen to the reality that he has absolutely zero plan to fix what's really wrong inside his own country. As a result he's setting up targets which have no relation to the US's real security or real economic issues as smoke and mirrors diversions. Regrettably his baying mob will swallow it hook line and sinker.
We do not need to get on the same page as the MAGAs (I don't consider them Team America). We do, however, wake up to the reality of the real security and economic issues that face Canada. If we do that we may mollify the baying mob, but I doubt it. When you're a strawman, you'll never satisfy your adversary because he needs to keep you as a strawman.
Or not. I prefer…not.
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maybe someone needs to tell Trump that? Or translate for him to our side cause we dont seem to be hearing correctly. I want to believe you but i see nothing to support it
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So we are facing a 2% of GDP hit on our economy if we do nothing and get nothing for it, or we can spend 2% of GDP on defence (call it 3.5% (1.5+2)) and maintain access to the US?
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you got that in writing somewhere?
We're probably already looking at a hit before any tariffs just from contraction already
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We are still in the weigh in. The match hasn't started.
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one of the many problems in addition to tariffs we have
Good, we badly need a housing price correction.
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Given that most likely the CPC, which seems to represent the west more, will win the next election, which has to happen before end-October, AB striking out on its own is an…interesting choice.
If there was a shadow of a doubt that the CPC would win, maybe there is some reason for those opposed to the Federal Government to do that. It’s not a great justification, but it is one.
However, the party that purports to have the support of the AB “forgotten Canadians” is going strong. So why she didn’t just hold back until the CPC had their unified message is beyond me. Is she trying to angle AB as 51 and Canada as 52?
I think Smith is putting her people and their prosperousness first. And I can appreciate and respect that.
She can't sit around and wait for the Federal election to come and go. She's full on AB first and I can appreciate and respect that too.
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We welcome our new brother and sisters from Alberta…
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