- Reaction score
- 26
- Points
- 430
As an aside......didn't we just discuss this about a week ago and turf it out with the bathwater then?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/49752.0.html
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/49752.0.html
George Wallace said:You know it is nice to have 'selective memory'. Seems to me that the Canadian Government did exactly the same thing to NATO back in the 1990's. We pulled our troops out of Europe and said we would send money instead. We pulled out of Cyprus. We have pulled out of the Balkins. We are pulling out of the Golan. Nice glass house we live in.
dglad said:So is Cyprus. We should be celebrating our withdrawal of major forces in those places as a job completed.
"We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."
ambex said:a_majoor, well said.
cdnaviator, while I am no expert on Cyprus, I have not heard of any fighting there for quite some time.
While not the best outcome, it is a far cry from the worst possible outcome. IMHO.
cplcaldwell said:Yehh, I really don't want to go there, I have enough trouble ordering at Harvey's without having to make the mental note...
"Freedom Fries, not French Fries,
Freedom Fries, not French Fries,
Freedom Fries, not French Fries,
Freedom Fries, not French Fries...."
and besides who could live in a world without BMW? or Mercedes? or Bratwurst?
Seriously.
We should just do what we need to do and not worry about them.
Canadians make a big deal about doing the right thing, stepping up to the plate, punching above our weight... A wise fellow once said something to the effect that 'you shall be known by the things you have accomplished'. ( I see you there, padre, just proving I'm not a complete pagan...)
We've punted a couple of times in the last fifteen years, time to go for it. IMHO.
Let's do this, we had currency in the world for years based on Vimy and Normandy and a dozen other places. I say shut up and get up the hill, once the place is free and stable we will be able to, without sarcasm or undue pride, say what we mean and have people listen. Really, screw the French, they're just being French, as to the Germans, well, gettin' pounded at your national game twice in one century is enough to make one a bit trepiditious eh?
Next time there's a shite storm. we'll be listened to, and for what we stand for, I'm all for it...
Self righteous patriotic rant ends, over....
Stout said:Personally I would like to see Canadians get this job done by any means necessary and if the French or Germans won't help....well thats just too bad for them. WE SHALL GET THE GLORY!!!!!!!!! :cheers:
We are supporting NATO !Trinity said:Not now..
but we had troops for Iraq when the conflict started.
We very easily could have gone in with the Americans or at
least supported the war in other ways but we've denounced
the war in Iraq publically.
Now..
However, we are technically supporting the US by freeing up troops
in the sandbox to go to Iraq. But that is more of a matter of
political conveniences because we can swallow the mission of Afghanistan,
but not Iraq. So I wouldn't quantify it as supporting Iraq but a
lucky coincidence.
bilton090 said:We are supporting NATO !
Was in Wainwright training for 07, some people have to work !Trinity said:Thanks for coming in late and not reading...
Of course we're supporting NATO.
When giving an argument, or answering a question like I did for someone
else it's also equally important to answer questions or weak points in your
own theory in the same thread to tie up loose ends. That's what I did.
I didn't say we are supporting the US, I said we are "technically" supporting
the US.. which is GOOD. Our allies need to know that we have their back.
Yes it is a NATO initiative but that doesn't mean it didn't free up troops
allowing the US to put less in the sandbox and more in Iraq, which, is
technically supporting the US in a back door mannor
Thus, our American friends feel that we are supporting them.