Retired AF Guy said:
Sorry Shawn, but you're wrong:
Paul Manafort: Donald Trumps Presidential campaign manager from June to August 2016.
General (ret'd) Mike Flynn was Trumps National Security Advisor, albeit for a very short time.
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Brihard said:
This is a thread about the current US presidency, so I’ll stick with that. And just to pick at a nuance, Trump *was* impeached. Impeachment happens in the house. Quite predictably the Senate turned on almost exact party lines on the matter.
Flynn and Manafort are but two of the numerous members of Trump’s circle who are now convicted criminals, not least of all his own lawyer, for acts committed in the course of helping his client. There are several others as you well know, and Trump himself and his family continue to face considerable legal scrutiny on various matters in various jurisdictions. I’ve always felt there’s some merit to the concept of ‘being judged by the company you keep’. I feel it fair to draw inferences about Trump’s character and ethics based on the actions of those doing his bidding.
Now, on the plus side, we’ve gained some clarity in the past few days- we at least now know they when he referred to himself as a ‘stable genius’, neither should be interpreted as meaning ‘financially’. Not looking for for ‘legally’, either. That IRS audit and the findings regarding the money he funnelled to his kids will be interesting.
Hey guys
Okay, you can call me wrong but here are facts to support my statement
Manafort was convicted of eight felonies, including tax fraud, defrauding banks, and hiding bank accounts from authorities. Judge Ellis also went out of his way today to publicly proclaim that Manafort’s sentencing has nothing to do with “Russian collusion”
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/03/07/breaking-surprise-move-paul-manafort-sentenced-just-four-years-prison/
Longtime Trump associate Roger Stone was sentenced to 4o months in prison for crimes that include obstruction of justice, lying to Congress and witness tampering. (Their claim that Stone merited a long sentence due to "witness intimidation" was nonsense, too, given that the witness said he wasn't threatened.)
carter Page was never arrested or indicted for his activities. The reality is that he was a CIA asset “engaged in clandestine intelligence activities” not for Russia, but for America, and this minor bit of information was deliberately omitted from his FISA warrant application and three renewals. And where does Page go to get his reputation back?
As for Flynn, aside from the illegality of deceiving the FISA court, and the subsequent effort to stop proceedings, his case is now being decided by a judge who is openly hostile to Flynn and reminds me of the time-honoured military tradition "March in the guilty b*****d"
Other Trump associates convicted or sentenced in the Mueller investigation
Michael Cohen: Received a three-year prison sentence in Dec. 2018 for tax evasion, bank fraud, lying to Congress and campaign finance violations.
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted of lying to investigators about about Russian contacts. He served 12 days in prison and in October, filed to run for former Rep. Katie Hill's California seat.
former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates pled guilty to one count of conspiracy against the United States and one count of making false statements to the FBI and to the Special Counsel at a meeting last month. criminal information which alleged Gates and Manafort laundered tens of millions of dollars that they earned through their work for the Ukrainian government.
All in all, I'd say you guys are in error