reverse_engineer said:100% any large gathering indoors (or in close proximity outdoors) is stupid right now.
However, the protests recently set a precedent IMO. I support legitimate protesters (not rioters) but if I'm going to support them, I have to support the right for any group to assemble peacefully regardless of the cause.
So either enforce social distancing, or don't. If they can have CHOP/CHAZ in Seattle, they can have a Trump rally in Tulsa. The problem is that there is a narrative afoot that tries to show one as inspirational, while painting the other as a public health risk.
It's whatever conservatives imagine they're trying to conserve against a Democratic party in which the most activist sub-factions are calling the shots.
Brad Sallows said:Trump talked about grabbing women by the pussy.
Remius said:Did anyone watch the video of the POTUS getTing off Marine 1 when he returned from the Tulsa rally?
He looked completely defeated...
6,200 people at Trump rally in Tulsa. Acts that had bigger crowds at the same venue in 2019:
- Sha Na Na
- The Pips (w/o Gladys Knight)
- Loverboy
- John Tesh
- The West Virginia Touring Company of La Traviata
https://twitter.com/alfranken/status/1274759720918794241
Brad Sallows said:I meant the allegation that he had one of his girlfriends blow a friend while Kennedy watched.
Blackadder1916 said:What "rule of etiquette" would that be?
Dimsum said:I just realized that this is the first time media has shown him with tie undone. Regardless of the reasoning, that's a bad look.
Brad Sallows said:The papers are often wrong or misleading.
Xylric said:Given the origin of the phrase....
Yikes.
dapaterson said:It may be the first such images they've captured. DJT is many things, but he is acutely aware of his image and how it is projected. That appearance is the first "slip" in that projection that I know of since he was elected; I suspect he forgot that he wasn't deplaning into a private facility with no one watching.
I cannot imagine living the life of constant scrutiny that POTUS is under (regardless of their party).
mariomike said:I mentioned that Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy did not behave like that in public. I stand by that.
Bruce Monkhouse said:Stupidest thing I've read today.
Bruce Monkhouse said:You have an idea how they acted when the cameras were on, an hour or so every other day.
Brad Sallows said:using the 25th Amendment
mariomike said:Right. I didn't want to mention it. But, since you did,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people#Donald_Trump
Xylric said:No, I meant the phrase 'Drinking the Koolaid.'
The phrase originates from events in Jonestown, Guyana, on November 18, 1978, in which over 900 members of the Peoples Temple movement died. The movement's leader, Jim Jones, called a mass meeting at the Jonestown pavilion after the murder of U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan and others in nearby Port Kaituma. Jones proposed "revolutionary suicide" by way of ingesting a powdered drink mix lethally laced with cyanide and other drugs which had been prepared by his aides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid
mariomike said:You may be too young to remember.
Xylric said:It sums up a fundemental flaw of American politics all too well - their parties have largely devolved into cult-like objects.
Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society.
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172-7c37-d3d2-ab7a-7f3762a80000&fbclid=IwAR3OgfOauPCdDRZqWi_BvgHtUAxZ5AZa50T4KQRewW0tL3cHF0oV2_t7Gy0
mariomike said:Wasn't always a "cult". Former Defense Secretary James Mattis put it this way,
Xylric said:He certainly never pulled his punches.
Former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis broke his silence on the conduct of President Donald Trump on Wednesday
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/03/mattis-trump-letter-protest-299562
Xylric said:He certainly never pulled his punches.