The PETA Merged Thread

[ballz]

Sorry that's what I meant. My brain is on Master Yoda setting....

Hahahaha *insert a "you are old" joke here* S'all good, I kinda figured but I had to make sure.

 

[GAP]

PETA not as humane as you might think
February 25th, 2012
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Arguably, the most people know about PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is that its members occasionally parade in the nude (or near nude) on the theme "we'd rather go naked than wear furs."

It's especially newsworthy when the likes of Pamela Anderson and Kim Basinger participate. PETA justifies nudity on the basis of "advertising through the media;" nude activists for animals "consistently grab headlines."

Founded in 1980, PETA has done stellar work in curbing cruel and often useless torturous experiment on animals of all sorts - as reflected in a summary of its mission statement: "Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment."

As such it opposes circuses, zoos, farms, pet stores and the like.

PETA advertises itself as the largest animal rights organization in the world, with more than three million members and supporters. PETA stages "rescue" operations of abused animals and can serve a useful purpose, which it is exceeding adept at publicizing.

What PETA does not tell you is that it doesn't much like pets - which it sees to view as a form of animal slavery. Nor does it tell you that it euthanizes - kills - some 85% of the animals it rescues. As an organization, it tends to believe an animal is better dead than living with a human being.

As far back as 2008, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia's Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (VDACS) to have PETA officially reclassified as a "slaughterhouse."

It claimed PETA's own official reports, indicate it put to death virtually every dog and cat it took in for adoption. This policy extended from 2006 through 2011.

Virginia requires animal shelters to report the number of dogs and cats taken in each year - how many are euthanized and how many are adopted.

These statistics are available through Virginia's Sunshine Law and, as incredible as some may find it, since 1998, of 31,815 animals (mostly dogs and cats) admitted to PETA shelters, only 3,159 were adopted - and 27,751 were killed.
 
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[fraserdw]

I was shocked by this, as the maid and butler of 3 cats I cannot imagine life without them.

 

[cupper]

They probably support Mitt Romney too!

 

[jollyjacktar]

Well that's a dirty little secret I'm sure they don't like hitting the light of day.  Another reason to hate them.

 

[cupper]

Not sure if you got the same commercials during the Oscars north of the border, but there was one that just aired here that calls out the Humane Society of the US.

It was put together by a group called Humane Watch.

http://humanewatch.org/

I know that the HSUS runs ads here regularly, and some of the images I have questioned. Particularly when they call into question the treatment of downer cattle.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

I hate these clowns.......


http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/12/04/peta_plans_billboard_ad_based_on_corpse_left_in_hamilton_home.html


By: The Canadian Press  The Canadian Press,  Published on Thu Dec 04 2014

HAMILTON—An animal rights group known for some controversial ad campaigns is proposing a new billboard in Hamilton based on the case of a woman who kept her husband’s corpse in a bedroom for six months.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) said Thursday it was negotiating with Hamilton-area advertisers to try to place a billboard that proclaims, “Are There Corpses in Your Home? Time to Go Vegan.”

Earlier this week, a devoutly religious Hamilton woman pleaded guilty to failing to notify authorities that her husband had died from an illness he was not getting treatment for.
Kaling Wald, who said she and her family were praying daily for her husband’s resurrection, received a suspended sentence and 18 months probation with counselling.

“If you have chicken breasts, steaks, or bologna in your refrigerator, we have news for you: you’re sharing your home with corpses,” PETA’s president said in a release.
Ingrid Newkirk added that people who are horrified by that should “try going vegan.”

A spokesman for the City of Hamilton said there was nothing officials could do to prevent the ad from being put up.
“Our sign bylaw does regulate the size and location of billboards but not the content,” said Michael Kirkopoulos.

He added that the city would probably get involved if the contents fall under the harassment umbrella, racism or anything deemed to be inappropriate from a legal perspective.
“Based on what it looks like the message will be on these billboards, the city has no ability at this point in time to prohibit that type of billboard.”
Daniel Carron, an outreach co-ordinator for PETA based in Norfolk, Va., agreed the billboard was meant to shock.

“The billboard is thought-provoking and we hope it is going to encourage people who are shocked by this to think about whether or not they’re storing dead bodies in their own freezers and in their own homes.”

 

[The Bread Guy]

I hate these clowns.......


http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/12/04/peta_plans_billboard_ad_based_on_corpse_left_in_hamilton_home.html


By: The Canadian Press  The Canadian Press,  Published on Thu Dec 04 2014

HAMILTON—An animal rights group known for some controversial ad campaigns is proposing a new billboard in Hamilton based on the case of a woman who kept her husband’s corpse in a bedroom for six months.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) said Thursday it was negotiating with Hamilton-area advertisers to try to place a billboard that proclaims, “Are There Corpses in Your Home? Time to Go Vegan.”

Earlier this week, a devoutly religious Hamilton woman pleaded guilty to failing to notify authorities that her husband had died from an illness he was not getting treatment for.
Kaling Wald, who said she and her family were praying daily for her husband’s resurrection, received a suspended sentence and 18 months probation with counselling.

“If you have chicken breasts, steaks, or bologna in your refrigerator, we have news for you: you’re sharing your home with corpses,” PETA’s president said in a release ....

I really wish this was satire .....

 

[ModlrMike]

They have now successfully put themselves on the same level as Westboro.

At times like these I'm reminded of what Churchill had to say:

"A zealot is someone who won't change his mind, and can't change the subject."

 

[cupper]

PETA may be going down in defeat here in Virginia.

(Interesting stat comparisons between county shelters in VA and PETA's euthanasia rates)

Animal bill could put PETA out of the shelter business

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/animal-bill-could-put-peta-out-of-the-shelter-business/2015/02/23/2f4f05b6-bb6a-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html?tid=hpModule_ba0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394&hpid=z11

RICHMOND — Nothing is warm and fuzzy in the world of Virginia animal-welfare organizations this year as shelters attack each other over a seemingly slight tweak to the state code that some activists say could put a major shelter out of business.

At the heart of this fight is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and its record on euthanasia, which alarms other animal advocates.

PETA operates a large shelter at its headquarters in Norfolk, where every year the vast majority of cats and dogs taken in are euthanized. The shelter came under fire last fall after it euthanized a Chihuahua that was inexplicably snatched from its owner’s porch by a PETA contractor on the Eastern Shore.

So the timing was perfect for a bill put forward by Sen. William M. Stanley Jr. (R-Franklin) that has emerged from both houses of the state legislature and that defines a private animal shelter as “operating for the purpose of finding permanent adoptive homes.” Under the current code, that description is only one of several that can describe a shelter.

Supporters say the bill clarifies the law — but makes it harder for organizations such as PETA to euthanize animals without first trying to find them homes.

In 2014, according to state reports, PETA took in 2,631 cats and dogs. All but 307 were euthanized.

“It’s just impossible to consider that they are making an attempt to adopt out animals with that failure record,” said Debra Griggs of the Virginia Federation of Humane Societies. The proposal codifies what “all shelters in Virginia are already doing — except for PETA.”

PETA supporters say the proposal is about something bigger. They say their opponents seized on the case of the Chihuahua to push a “no-kill” policy — avoiding euthanasia for abandoned animals under any circumstances — on all private shelters.

“When PETA retained me less than three weeks ago, I quickly discovered I was in the middle of a years-long battle between people who all love animals, all do what they think is best, all operate within state law, and still dislike each other,” lobbyist Stephen Haner wrote in an e-mail to House members. “But there is only one side of this battle that is seeking to impose its vision on the other.”

Haner’s e-mail is part of an aggressive, last-minute lobbying campaign to thwart a bill that he and others say could have far-reaching consequences.

The core of the debate is a philosophical disagreement about the most humane way to manage unwanted pets.

“The PETA screw-up came at a convenient time and is being used as a Trojan horse to ship the no-kill movement into Virginia,” said one longtime lobbyist on animal issues, who spoke on the condition of anonymity while representing a group that is neutral on the bill.

A no-kill policy, if imposed on all shelters, would prompt “a retreat to 1850, where you drown them in the creek, shoot them in the head or just let them starve to death,” said Sharon Adams, who led the Virginia Beach SPCA for over 20 years. She works for the Virginia Alliance for Animal Shelters, which opposed the bill.

In addition to the bill, advocates of no-kill policies have asked state regulators for a rule requiring animal shelters to keep records of when, how and why each animal was taken in and when and why it was killed.

PETA would not comment on the pending legislation. On its Web site, PETA says it takes unadoptable animals that no other shelter wants and puts them out of their misery.

“Because of the high number of unwanted companion animals and the lack of good homes, sometimes the most humane thing that a shelter worker can do is give an animal a peaceful release,” the organization says. They lament that “this selfish desire to possess animals and receive love from them . . . has created an overpopulation crisis.”

Such pronouncements have drawn accusations of animal cruelty. Critics question whether PETA, despite a radical, pro-animal outlook that encourages veganism and abhors zoos, cares about pets at all.

“They make no effort to get them adopted, and they are wild now at the suggestion that maybe they should even try,” Robin Starr, chief executive of the Richmond SPCA, wrote in a blog post. “They want no impediment to their killing. . . . PETA is a huge, rich, mean bully.”

Several shelter leaders say PETA’s objections to the proposed legislation and regulation are unfounded, although the state Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services told lawmakers the bill could cause private shelters to stop taking in challenging animals. In that case, officials said, municipal shelters could be forced to deal with more strays.

“My colleagues in the state and the region don’t see this as a threat at all,” said Tawny Hammond, who leads Fairfax County’s animal shelter and views the bill as a “clarification” that won’t hurt any facility aiming to find most animals homes. “I don’t see this as dumping an undue burden on any organization and community.”

Besides ill pets that are euthanized at the request of their owners, she says, Fairfax has an adoption rate of more than 90 percent. As a public shelter, it can’t select which animals are taken in. Overall, a quarter of the animals taken in by Virginia county shelters last year were euthanized, a far lower rate than at PETA’s facility.

The legislation passed the Senate with only five dissenting votes and the House with only two. The bill was softened in the House to take out a line requiring shelters to“facilitat[e] other lifesaving outcomes” for abandoned animals.

“It does not change the essence of the bill,” said Stanley, who owns three rescue dogs and one rescue cat. “I think it’s important the public know that [the PETA facility] is not a private animal shelter that finds forever homes for these animals, but rather puts them down.”

The only point on which anyone agrees is that the issue has ripped apart a community that used to work together.

“There’s a lot of rancor,” said Dana Meeker, president of the SPCA of Northern Virginia. “There are other things we could have spent time on, but there was a lot of ill feeling towards that organization this year.”