The Navy To Borrow USS Gunston
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geo said:
We have enough of our own military disasters without referring a ships name to an event that others already lay claim too?[N&L excepted]
Because its a silly name for a Canadian warship but why would that stop the dept. of silly names from nameing a ship after a place most Canadians never heard of, probably the same reason they named the subs after city's when the Frigates were already named after city's. The naming of ships isn't done because their "cool" or "awesome" but what is politically correct at the time, tradition or history be dammed.
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Colin Parkinson
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At least you guys don't put first Nation names on your ships like the CCG hovercraft, now nicknamed as See Poo & See Ya! :
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Tribal names are ok, it's the local names that cause us grief.
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She and her OHP escort pulled in this morning. I hope the lads and lassies have a good liberty while they are in town. I am looking forewards to the next three weeks and hope it will be interesting for all.
The ground pounders will be having a good trip I am sure. Lots of interesting rides to take and places to see.
The ground pounders will be having a good trip I am sure. Lots of interesting rides to take and places to see.
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http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/ww2/flower/
I would have no problems serving on a ship named after the Flower class corvettes, without those ships and men we would not have won the Battle of Atlantic
I would have no problems serving on a ship named after the Flower class corvettes, without those ships and men we would not have won the Battle of Atlantic
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SoF said:
Why? Do you doubt the integrity and professionalism of American personnel? I do not and I think you need to make an apology.
And wrt to this post....
Seeing how we don't know the details the speculation of abuse of trust is just that....speculation!
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Ex-Dragoon said:
From the Halifax Herald today.....this is the result of the rowdiness that usually ensues down around that area on the weekends. This area is notorius for assualts and altercations.
This isn't about anti-americanism...abuse of trust or anything else.
As in years gone by...sailors go ashore and party...sometimes they are in the wrong place at the wrong time and bad things happen...end of story...condonlences to the family are in order. The military family will pay full honours and assist in the repatriation of a brother in arms
Visiting sailor killed
American stabbed outside bar
By BRIAN HAYES Staff Reporter
Police had six people in custody Saturday in the fatal stabbing of an American sailor outside a downtown Halifax bar early that morning.
Another American sailor was slightly injured and was being treated in hospital, police said.
"It was like a madhouse," a witness said of the altercation that began about 3:45 a.m. when two women in their early to mid-20s began fighting outside the entrance to Rain Lounge Club on Argyle Street near Sackville.
"They were trying to rip each other’s hair out."
It’s believed the fight began inside the club and then spilled out onto the street.
The witness, who wouldn’t give his name, said up to 40 people soon gathered, including several American servicemen, and some in the crowd began grabbing and yelling at one another.
Because of the number of people and poor lighting conditions, the witness said he didn’t see the stabbing or a body on the ground.
He said police began arriving 20 minutes later and a few minutes later, eight cruisers converged on the scene and officers began breaking up what had degenerated into a brawl.
They found the 28-year-old sailor in a nearby doorway. He was suffering from a stab wound.
Theresa Brien, public affairs supervisor with Halifax Regional Police, said in a news release that the sailor was taken to hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Ms. Brien said police identified and stopped a possible suspect vehicle immediately after the stabbing. The male driver had jumped out and fled but was caught a short time later after being pursued by patrol officers and a police dog.
Police also arrested four other occupants of the vehicle, she said. A sixth man was apprehended for obstructing police.
All the men, along with witnesses, were being interviewed by investigators throughout the day Saturday. No charges had been laid as of late Saturday evening.
The name and hometown of the victim has not been released, and the U.S. navy has declined comment on the matter. But it is believed he is a crew member of one of two American warships that arrived in Halifax last week to participate in Canadian exercises aimed at putting troops ashore at hot spots around the world.
Police investigators spent most of Saturday searching the stretch of Argyle between Prince and Sackville streets, which was cordoned off with police tape.
More than a dozen numbered police identification markers could be seen scattered about in front of the club as police looked for evidence. One marker was beside a large pool of blood in a nearby doorway.
Two vehicles, a brown-maroon Buick Regal and a silver Chevrolet Aveo, were parked in the middle of the street near the club’s entrance.
A police identification marker was on top of the trunk of the Buick and a set of keys was lying on its roof. The vehicle’s passenger window was rolled down and what appeared to be a red woollen jacket was draped over the front seat.
Just before 3 p.m., a fire truck arrived and a crew started washing away the bloodstain in front of the club. Shortly afterward, Argyle Street was re-opened to traffic.
Rain opened as usual later in the night. Two doormen worked the entrance closest to the Economy Shoe Shop, checking IDs, laughing and chatting with the patrons in line.
Police are asking anyone who may have information about the stabbing or the altercation to call 490-5016 or anonymously through Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 (TIPS).
( bhayes@herald.ca)
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The authorities have this tragic incident well in hand.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061105/sailor_charges_061105/20061105?hub=Canada
Three N.S. men charged in U.S. sailor's death
Updated Sun. Nov. 5 2006 6:27 PM ET
Canadian Press
HALIFAX -- An American sailor killed during an early-morning bar brawl in Halifax was a "Good Samaritan'' trying to break up a fight he wasn't even involved in, police said Sunday.
Hull Technician 1st Class Damon Crooks, 28, of West Palm Beach, Fla., was stabbed early Saturday outside a popular downtown club after a fight that began inside spilled onto the street.
Cory Wright, 23, of Halifax was charged Sunday with first-degree murder. Two other local men face less severe charges.
Crooks and at least one other sailor, who was taken to hospital with minor injuries, apparently tried to break up a fight that escalated into a brawl involving about 20 people, said police spokeswoman Theresa Brien.
"There was a disturbance unrelated to the American sailors, where a local individual was being assaulted,'' said Brien.
"It looks like the American sailors attempted to intervene as Good Samaritans, at which point the disturbance escalated.''
Brien said police don't think the two seamen were targeted because they were American sailors. She said there were other U.S. sailors at the scene, although it wasn't clear whether any were in uniform at the time.
A witness told the Halifax Chronicle-Herald the melee started as a fight between two women at the club.
Crooks was stationed on the USS Doyle, one of two American naval vessels in Halifax to take part in exercises with the Canadian navy.
The training began Friday and was expected to continue for several weeks.
Cmdr. Herman Phillips, a spokesman for the U.S. navy, said it was a tragedy that would be felt throughout the fleet.
"Any death hits the navy family very, very hard,'' Phillips said in an interview from Norfolk, Va.
"But it's also a time when ... sailors come together and take care of their own.''
Police initially arrested six people after the stabbing. The other three were questioned and released.
Wright is scheduled to appear in court on Monday.
A 24-year-old Dartmouth man faces a charge of assault, while a 22-year-old man, also from Dartmouth, faces a charge of obstruction. Both are to appear in court on Dec. 14.
Halifax's third murder of the year has underscored concerns over increased violence in the city, particularly in the downtown core.
Police have recently stepped up patrols in the area to curb assaults and fights as the city's nightclubs close for the night, some as late as 3 or 4 a.m.
Halifax's mayor has promised to hold a meeting this week between police and downtown businesses to discuss what needs to change.
Peter Kelly said even though the number of assaults is on the decline, which he attributes in part to the increased police presence, more needs to be done to curb the violence.
"Our increased presence in the downtown seems to have had an effect, but I think we still have other issues we still need to bring to the forefront,'' Kelly said Sunday.
"We want to see what's going on and what's going well and what's not going so well.''
Kelly said several ideas will be discussed, such as using video surveillance on downtown streets and examining whether bars and nightclubs should close earlier.
But while he acknowledged many in the city have grown wary about the violence, he insisted Halifax is safe place to enjoy a night out.
"Things are very safe here, but that doesn't mean that we become complacent.''
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061105/sailor_charges_061105/20061105?hub=Canada
Three N.S. men charged in U.S. sailor's death
Updated Sun. Nov. 5 2006 6:27 PM ET
Canadian Press
HALIFAX -- An American sailor killed during an early-morning bar brawl in Halifax was a "Good Samaritan'' trying to break up a fight he wasn't even involved in, police said Sunday.
Hull Technician 1st Class Damon Crooks, 28, of West Palm Beach, Fla., was stabbed early Saturday outside a popular downtown club after a fight that began inside spilled onto the street.
Cory Wright, 23, of Halifax was charged Sunday with first-degree murder. Two other local men face less severe charges.
Crooks and at least one other sailor, who was taken to hospital with minor injuries, apparently tried to break up a fight that escalated into a brawl involving about 20 people, said police spokeswoman Theresa Brien.
"There was a disturbance unrelated to the American sailors, where a local individual was being assaulted,'' said Brien.
"It looks like the American sailors attempted to intervene as Good Samaritans, at which point the disturbance escalated.''
Brien said police don't think the two seamen were targeted because they were American sailors. She said there were other U.S. sailors at the scene, although it wasn't clear whether any were in uniform at the time.
A witness told the Halifax Chronicle-Herald the melee started as a fight between two women at the club.
Crooks was stationed on the USS Doyle, one of two American naval vessels in Halifax to take part in exercises with the Canadian navy.
The training began Friday and was expected to continue for several weeks.
Cmdr. Herman Phillips, a spokesman for the U.S. navy, said it was a tragedy that would be felt throughout the fleet.
"Any death hits the navy family very, very hard,'' Phillips said in an interview from Norfolk, Va.
"But it's also a time when ... sailors come together and take care of their own.''
Police initially arrested six people after the stabbing. The other three were questioned and released.
Wright is scheduled to appear in court on Monday.
A 24-year-old Dartmouth man faces a charge of assault, while a 22-year-old man, also from Dartmouth, faces a charge of obstruction. Both are to appear in court on Dec. 14.
Halifax's third murder of the year has underscored concerns over increased violence in the city, particularly in the downtown core.
Police have recently stepped up patrols in the area to curb assaults and fights as the city's nightclubs close for the night, some as late as 3 or 4 a.m.
Halifax's mayor has promised to hold a meeting this week between police and downtown businesses to discuss what needs to change.
Peter Kelly said even though the number of assaults is on the decline, which he attributes in part to the increased police presence, more needs to be done to curb the violence.
"Our increased presence in the downtown seems to have had an effect, but I think we still have other issues we still need to bring to the forefront,'' Kelly said Sunday.
"We want to see what's going on and what's going well and what's not going so well.''
Kelly said several ideas will be discussed, such as using video surveillance on downtown streets and examining whether bars and nightclubs should close earlier.
But while he acknowledged many in the city have grown wary about the violence, he insisted Halifax is safe place to enjoy a night out.
"Things are very safe here, but that doesn't mean that we become complacent.''
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Dress with a difference tomorrow across Formation Halifax will be putting the proceeds towards this fund.
Even on ships, where we don't get to dress in Civies, there will be money collected.
NS
Even on ships, where we don't get to dress in Civies, there will be money collected.
NS
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We are collecting while at sea and the monies will be deposited when we get back into town next week. From what I understand he was a good man and will be sorely missed. I hope that if the roles were reversed, they would do something like this for one of our chaps.
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