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Pusser said:
While we're on the subject, what other occasions would be considered appropriate occasions?
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While we're on the subject, what other occasions would be considered appropriate occasions?
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gcclarke said:An annendum to point 4) If the ceremony is before 1800, wear high collar whites. Because, hey, what other bloody situation are you ever going to find where they'll be appropriate?
Except that the OP seems to be saying that he's getting married on Friday, 28 October, which fall in the winter dress period. You can't wear whites in the winter dress period unless you're in the tropics. High collar whites are not an option for an October wedding in Canada.
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mburden said:
Now maybe it's just me but I think this is the crucial part of the post. All these niggly little details should already have been worked out long ago, especially in light of Mr. Campbell's sound and sage advice re the Brides
If not I'd be going with Journeyman's suggestions. 8)
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Is it acceptable to hook up the sword briefly while exchanging rings?
What if you are currently attached to a shore posting?
I ask these questions as I too am taking the plunge next year and have done some research into this, these are the only questions I have yet answered or confirmed my thoughts.
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Blatch said:
I'll leave someone else to deal with Navy swords - in the Army, back when I was a junior officer and the earth was still cooling, most people left their swords hang for the few moments it too to exchange rings, kisses, etc.
If your shore establishment, the unit to which you belong, has the right sort of flag pole - the one with bits of wood and lots of ropes attached
- then I'm guessing that the garland should be hung there. Right. sailors?
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E.R. Campbell said:I'll leave someone else to deal with Navy swords - in the Army, back when I was a junior officer and the earth was still cooling, most people left their swords hang for the few moments it too to exchange rings, kisses, etc.
If your shore establishment, the unit to which you belong, has the right sort of flag pole - the one with bits of wood and lots of ropes attached
Did ye utter the word "Sword"? Arrrrrrrrr mateys!! Wherrre's the rum?
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Jim Seggie said:
And the lash and the ... oh forget about it.
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Blatch said:
Just let the sword hang while you do the ring thing (that's what I did). While you certainly don't want to walk around with a sword hanging loose, you should be fine for the few seconds it takes to
As for the garland, if you have an appropriate place to hoist it, great, but I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it. It's a tradition, not a law.
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Thanks for all the great feedback guys. In response to some of the posts, I don't have a sword yet, I've decided not to get one until I'm promoted same with the whites I'm also the only military person attending so no sword arch. My wife to be says as long as I wear pants she's happy it's more the mother of the bride that would make running off to Vegas a good idea, although going to Vegas is always a good idea.
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You don't like your (soon to be) in laws? Why do I seem to be the only person who likes their in laws?
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mburden said:
Best wishes and good luck to you and your bride. We all hope you have a great wedding and, more important, a happy life together. In the big scheme of things weddings are pretty small change, despite all the angst some endure. Have fun.
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Pusser said:
It's funny, I rechecked and No.2 Mess Dress is still considered "evening dress" in the regulations in that it is only to be worn after 1800. That being said, as Edward Campbell mentioned once, the old conceptions of dinner and dress are dying a proper death and Victorian norms are not really relevant. A-AD-265-000 Is probably in need of a revision to reflect this.
I wore Mess Dress to my wedding and it started at noon. I wore it because my Regiment does not have Full Dress and No.1 - being DEUs - simply looked too casual (even though it is prescribed for such an occasion) compared to my groomsmen who were wearing the civilian black tie equivlent of mess dress (black tie). My Best Man was actually wearing Morning Dress throughout the event and into the evening because it looked slick and would have been silly (and costly) to have him change. So, many faux pas that would have been inexcusable in Edwardian times, but in the end we all looked fine in the 21st century.
That being said, if our Army had an proper issue of Full Dress, then I would have worn it because it is sharp. But that's just me.
Edit to add: Here's a high-minded site if anyone cares about buttons and bows.
http://www.blacktieguide.com/index.html
Note: The protocol of reserving the dinner jacket and tailcoat for wear after six is self-evident in Britain which has maintained the elegant custom of morning dress, a category of clothing designated specifically for formal daytime events. On the other side of the Atlantic, however, formal day clothes have all but disappeared since World War II and in their absence most North Americans have come to view the tuxedo and tailcoat erroneously as all-purpose “formalwear” and commonly sport it at afternoon weddings. Consequently, the proper use of evening wear has become a habit generally confined to the privileged minority that attend black-tie events often enough to view the tuxedo as an integral part of a man’s wardrobe rather than as a rented novelty.
Guess my wedding was just a low-class gathering of yokels with rented novelties...the horror!!!
