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The Haiti Super Thread- Merged

Typical! A member of my section was accused of being the father of a 8 year old boy brought to the front gate by his mother one day. He suppsedly fathered the baby in 1996 on a previous deployment. The thing is he was only 12 at the time. So was he the father? She thought so! Lies! Liies!
 
Patrolman said:
Typical! A member of my section was accused of being the father of a 8 year old boy brought to the front gate by his mother one day. He suppsedly fathered the baby in 1996 on a previous deployment. The thing is he was only 12 at the time. So was he the father? She thought so! Lies! Liies!

That is hilarious - these are the kind of stories we need to circulate to counter the actons of so-called educated 'Canadians' who compile false allegatons without evidence.

 
I heard an interview with the lead author of this report and they asked questions like "did you feel that you were threatened" not whether they were actually threatened.  Also, the numbers are extrapolated for the whole country based on the results from Port Au Prince assuming the rest of the country is as bad as the city.
 
rmacqueen said:
I heard an interview with the lead author of this report and they asked questions like "did you feel that you were threatened" not whether they were actually threatened.  Also, the numbers are extrapolated for the whole country based on the results from Port Au Prince assuming the rest of the country is as bad as the city.

Extrapolated??? That is serious BS when they extrapolate findings based on a crowded downtown sector next to where the former base was.
 
As Haiti goes hungry, tons of food rot at ports

Government effort to halt corruption creates bureaucratic barriers

CAP-HAITIEN, Haiti - While millions of Haitians go hungry, containers full of food are stacking up in the nation's ports because of government red tape
— leaving tons of beans, rice and other staples to rot under a sweltering sun or be devoured by vermin. A government attempt to clean up a corrupt port
system that has helped make Haiti a major conduit for Colombian cocaine has added new layers of bureaucracy — and led to backlogs so severe they are
being felt 600 miles away in Miami, where cargo shipments to Haiti have ground almost to a standstill.

The problems are depriving desperate people of donated food. Some are so poor they are forced to eat cookies made of dirt, salt and vegetable oil to satisfy
their hunger.An Associated Press investigation found the situation is most severe in Cap-Haitien, Haiti's second-largest city. One recent afternoon, garbage
men shoveled a pile of rotting pinto beans that had turned gray and crumbled to dust as cockroaches and beetles scurried about.

The men had found the putrid cargo by following a stench through stacked shipping containers to one holding 40,000 pounds of beans. It had been in port since November. "So many times, by the time (the food) gets out of customs it's expired and we're forced to burn it," said Susie Scott Krabacher, whose
Colorado-based Mercy and Sharing Foundation has worked in Haiti for 14 years. "The food is there. It is available. It just can't get to the people."

Though it is unclear how much of Haiti's food supply is tied up in the port delays, the effects could be serious. Haiti imports about 75 percent of its food supply,
according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And there is little room for error in a country where the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization reported that
almost half the population was undernourished in 2002.

The U.N. World Food Program and large-scale U.S. rice growers say they have been able to get their food into Haiti by hiring local agents to handle bureaucratic
procedures. But smaller charities, merchants and private citizens have often been forced by the delays to throw away containers of food or pay exorbitant fees. The
problems stem in part from efforts to clean up a port system the World Bank recently ranked as the second-worst in the region, ahead of only Guyana.

Customs reform efforts

Before the changes were implemented last fall, bribes flowed freely and goods passed through unsearched and without duties being paid. That deprived the
government of money and helped make Haiti a major transshipment point for Colombian cocaine destined for the United States. The international community
has encouraged Haiti's customs reform efforts, with the U.S. government helping fund port security and U.N. peacekeepers stepping up anti-smuggling patrols
along the coast and Dominican border.

But new requirements for licenses and manifests in triplicate have overwhelmed poorly trained workers and the country's archaic, handwritten customs system.

Unlike U.S. ports, where less than 5 percent of containers were scanned last year and only a fraction of those opened up and inspected, Haitian cargo handlers
said each container at Cap-Haitien must now be completely emptied and inspected. Customs chief Jean-Jacques Valentin said that policy was Haiti's own decision.
Frustrated by the new procedures and demanding higher pay, striking workers shut down the port at Cap-Haitien for 20 days in December. Graffiti denouncing the
port's director still mars its buildings.

And despite the reforms, some say the bribes are continuing.

Jean-Paul Michaud, a Canadian, said he sailed to the capital of Port-au-Prince late last year carrying 60 pounds of donated clothing and medicine — and that
port authorities demanded $10,000 in "customs fees" — code for a bribe to make the fees disappear. "I'd have rather thrown the aid in the water," said Michaud.
The Canadian Embassy intervened and the fee was later waived.

Krabacher's group says it has paid nearly $16,000 in fees in the first six weeks of 2008 alone, compared to $23,418 for all of 2007. Lawmakers concerned about
the situation questioned Prime Minister Jacques Edouard Alexis about the port delays during a February no-confidence vote.

"There is a lot of work being done in terms of the ports," Alexis maintained. "We are looking at a way to implement a 'fast-track' policy, so people can get their merchandise out more quickly."

Rest of article on link

Haiti’s poor resort to eating mud as prices rise
 
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DART advance team being sent to Haiti
STEVEN CHASE, Globe and Mail, 9 Sept 08
Article link

Ottawa is sending a reconaissance group to storm-ravaged Haiti in advance of deploying Canada's military disaster-assistance team there.

The federal government will announce the move Wednesday, a source says.

The Disaster Assistance Response Team is a group of about 200 Canadian soldiers who travel to hard-hit areas of the world to provide short-term water purification and medical services until long-term help arrives.

The reconaissance team will scout out the situation to determine what the DART soldiers could do to help Haiti.

Haiti is facing a humanitarian crisis after four tropical storms in less than a month. Officials say at least 331 people have been killed in the storms in this desperately poor Caribbean nation. In the hard-hit region of Artibonite, which includes Gonaives, Hanna killed at least 172.

And as the floodwaters recede and more bodies surface, Haiti's government has all but given up trying to update the death toll. A committee that typically keeps track of such things in Gonaives disasters has disbanded, because its members were among the tens of thousands who lost their homes.

 
As the DART itself been deployed yet? Are they going? Has the recce team returned? Or is the recce team still there?

Anyone in the know please speak.

 
Recce Departed...Team on Stand by...notoce was up to 24 now back to 48 I believe....My gut says nothing happeneing
 
There was a lot of equipment getting geared up to go, and we had the potential to get extremely busy with it but as of yet it is a no go.
 
Folks, pelase remember that deployments anywhere are an OPSEC issue.  Temper your comments appropriately; if you haven't seen it on the news / posted to the official DND website, it's probably not meant to be circulated.

 
dapaterson said:
Folks, pelase remember that deployments anywhere are an OPSEC issue.  Temper your comments appropriately; if you haven't seen it on the news / posted to the official DND website, it's probably not meant to be circulated.

Good point there dapaterson.
 
dapaterson said:
Folks, pelase remember that deployments anywhere are an OPSEC issue.  Temper your comments appropriately; if you haven't seen it on the news / posted to the official DND website, it's probably not meant to be circulated.
Too late, It's all ready been on CTV last week !
 
No OPSEC violations in any of the posts. Any of that info can be construed from the two articles posted in the below links.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/09/10/dart-haiti.html
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=b4ec7565-f422-4298-9348-ed71e9ed34e4
 
Where in those two articles is the current NTM?  Where's the information on preparing kit?

OPSEC is not just about big things - it's the colleciton of little things, taken together, that reveals what's happening.  In the words of the good old British poster:  "Be like Dad - Keep Mum!"
 
dapaterson said:
Where in those two articles is the current NTM?  Where's the information on preparing kit?

OPSEC is not just about big things - it's the colleciton of little things, taken together, that reveals what's happening.  In the words of the good old British poster:  "Be like Dad - Keep Mum!"

From the article from CBC

The team, which consists of about 200 members of the Canadian Forces, is on standby now and can be prepared to leave for Haiti on 12 hours notice
 
All:

This was/is indeed an OPSEC issue and people are posting completely erroneous information in any event.  If you don't know and haven't been told information was/is releasable, keep out of the discussion.
 
Seriously it's DART....

Talking about them going anywhere is about as dangerous as saying 1 RCR is going to the field (which they are not btw).... They depoly with host nations approval and with much public/media fanfare. Hell last time they went anywhere it was reported they were leaving before they had even got to Trenton. In fact that would be how a medic friend of mine found out she was deploying.

I am all for OPSEC trust me I am... But seriously for DART get real.
 
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