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Slim said:Case in point a martial artist who was attacked outside a bar in toronto several years ago, was able to defend himself with very minimal force, and was convicted for it.
I'm going to try and find that story but Whiskey may already be familier with the specifics of the case.
Converseley, a martial artist in calgary, after getting attacked with a hatchet, killed his assailant using only his bare hands, and wasn't charged. Here's an early article reporting the news:
Judo expert: After taking two blows to the head, man slays assailant with his bare hands
http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.h........d={7356155D-7EA7-45C2-8440-27C77D53EF1B}
Tourist kills campsite assailant
Scott Crowson
Calgary Herald
Sunday, October 27, 2002
Scott Crowson, Calgary Herald
Investigators look over a rented camper truck at the Mountainview Campground east of Calgary on Sunday. Police say a 38-year-old man was killed after attacking the occupant.
Jenelle Schneider, Calgary Herald
An unidentified German man returns his rented camper following a fatal campground encounter.
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A German tourist visiting Western Canada with his family faces no charges after killing an attacker early Saturday at an RV campground just east of the city.
The couple and their 12-year-old daughter were allowed to fly home on schedule later in the day after two weeks of exploring Alberta and British Columbia. The family refused to talk to reporters and police didn't release their names.
They spent their last night in Canada at the Mountain View Farm Campground, which is about three kilometres east of the city where the Conrich Road meets the Trans-Canada Highway.
Their holiday tour of mountains and prairie was ruined shortly before 5 a.m.
According to police, a 38-year-old man lured the German out of his rented camper on the pretext that there was a problem with the vehicle.
The stranger then attacked the tourist with a weapon and a struggle ensued, said Staff Sgt. Glenn De Goeij of the Strathmore RCMP.
The Mountie wouldn't elaborate on what sort of weapon was involved, other than to say it wasn't a gun.
The tourist was injured during the struggle and the stranger fell to the ground, about three metres in front of the camper, where he died. Police were not releasing the name of the deceased until next of kin had been notified.
The tourist was taken to hospital, where he was treated for his injuries and released.
"We don't know the motive for the attack," De Goeij said. "That's part of the investigation. . . . It appears to be a random incident, a terrible incident."
Several campers heard shouts and screams, but none reported seeing the fight. They said the whole thing was over in seconds.
The first person at the scene was a campground employee, a retired Mountie who is trained in first aid. He summoned paramedics and police.
Henry Braeutigam, 68, who owns the campground, was called at
4:45 a.m.
"Some of the people involved couldn't speak English," said Braeutigam, who is multilingual. "I did some interpreting and then I took the woman and daughter to the campground store."
Police then interviewed the family members separately to see if their versions of events matched.
Braeutigam, who has run the campground for 32 years, tried to comfort the family.
"They were very, very upset, of course," he said. "I didn't think that they would be able to fly home (Saturday). So we had to get in touch with the German embassy because we didn't know what happens in a case like this. Nobody has experience with this type of thing."
Investigators said no charges were pending and there was no reason to ask the tourists to remain in Canada.
"You need certain legal requirements to hold somebody in custody and we would have to meet that test," De Goeij explained.
"There's further investigation to be done before any decision like that is made."
So, obviously, killing someone in self defense in no way means that you will be arrested or charged. It's the circumstances surrounding the incident that affect how you're treated. If, for instance, you use a prohibited or unregistered firearm, or if you use a firearm on public land where you had no business to be carrying one, you'll deffinitely be arrested and investigated. If the circumstances don't clearly indicate that it WAS self defence, you'll be questioned and possibly arrested. If the police feel you used an unreasonable ammount of force, you'll be charged.