TCBF said:"I know that in Canada it says "Up to and including deadly force to protect yourself," I just wouldn't want to be the guy to test that one in court here in this country"
Slim,we put this one to bed a few pages back. You definitely CAN use up to and including deadly force to protect yourself in Canada. Read the thread!
TCBF said:Well, that's natural selection for you.
Point being, deadly force implies you are killing to save a life - usually your own - where failing to do so would lead a reasonable person under the same circumstances to think that they too would have feared for their own life before taking identical action.
2332Piper said:Let's make the civilian population with the werewithal the defend themselves even more defenceless?
Michael Dorosh said:Firstly, you have no private property due to our Charter of Rights which enshrines absolutely nothing in that regard (thank you Lieutenant (retd.) Trudeau).
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
1.(a) the right of the individual to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property, and the right not to be deprived thereof except by due process of law;
Secondly, using a firearm to defend what you may think is your property may very well get you charged. Check out the Wiebo case.
Caesar said:This whole argument re: protecting yourself with firearms, while interesting, has nothing to with banning handguns. One does not need to justify the possesion of their own property to prevent seizure. In short, I can use my pistol to stir my soup if I wish. It's not the goverments business wtf I do with it, as long as I obey the law.
Brad Sallows said:What mechanism is there in Canada for protecting yourself with anything? AFAICT, if you injure or kill anyone - by whatever means - while protecting yourself or your property, you're going to take a trip through the legal system. It might begin and end with the decision of the police to lay charges, but it's still there. The tool is irrelevant.
Hatchet Man said:The Conservatives don't support it (I don't have any quotes, just what I heard on the news), however they need to tread lightly so as not to be painted as assbackwards rednecks, but to highlight that this is a sham and will do zip to actually stop gun crime.
On a side note If anyone actually bothered to read the criminal code, a person can use a firearm to defend themselves or there property provide the use of force is REASONABLY NECESSARY and JUSTIFIABLE. Wiebo taking shots at teenagers walking across his land is neither reasonable force or justifiable. A bunch of thugs trying to kick in your front door armed with baseball bats and machetes, have at er. Criminal Code of Canada S. 25(3), S. 34(2), S. 40, S. 41