ROTP at Civilian University 2004 - 2018 [Merged]

[Pusser]

The Canadian ROTP is not like the American ROTC.  Canadian universities do not offer ROTP as a program for credit or otherwise.  Instead, ROTP is an officer entry plan offered solely by the Canadian Forces.  The universities themselves have nothing to do with it.  If you apply for ROTP, you are applying to become a Regular Force officer (vice a Reserve officer, which is what the ROTC creates).  If accepted into the program, you can go to any approved Canadian post-secondary institution (essentially any Canadian university).  However, unless you are undertaking a program not offered at RMC, the CF's first choice will be to send you there.  In other words, if you are accepted into ROTP, you will likely attend RMC.  The common exceptions to this are that if a candidate has already completed a year or more at a Canadian university, they may be allowed to remain there, or if they decide to recruit more candidates in a given year than they have places at RMC, some folks will be able to go to civilian universities.  Keep in mind though that applying to civilian universities in Canada is a personal responsibility.  Anyone applying for ROTP should also apply to civilian universities.  You would hate to be in a situation where you were accepted into ROTP (Civy U) and then lost out because you didn't apply to another university.  If you end up in a civilian universtiy under the ROTP, the CF simply pays the bills.  The CF will not apply on your behalf, nor does the CF have reserved spaces available at any university (other than RMC). 

I'm not aware of any Canadian university that does not have a rugby program of some sort.  RMC has rugby.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

For rugby, if you are looking to play at a high level, your best bet is Ontario or British Columbia.  Obviously UVic and UBC are the top two schools in the country as BC is the Mecca of Canadian Rugby.  These schools don't actually play other schools though, they play in what is known as the CDI Premier League, which is probably the top men's rugby competition in North America.

The other big university league in Canada is the OUA in Ontario.  Schools that have teams are: Brock, Laurier, Guelph, McMaster, RMC, Queens, Waterloo, Western and UofT.  All of these teams have full varsity status which means you will train everyday and you will train during the off season as well.  The top programs in this league are located at Queens, Western, McMaster and Brock.

Most Canadian universities do have rugby though; however, most of them only have club status which means the calibre and funding aren't comparable to the other schools I listed above.

I played at RMC and we trained everyday, even during the offseason.  During the offseason we focused on strength and conditioning and had strength and conditioning coaches brought in to help us progress.  We also had access to other stuff many other schools didn't (indoor track, scrum machine, gigantic weight room, indoor field house, etc).  The training and coaching I received was top notch and it also helped me in my military career. 

 

[Pusser]

Keep in mind that your military training during the summer may interfere with any summer off-season training at schools other than RMC. 

 

[Rorschach97]

Hello everyone! As the title said I just got my citizenship about a a month ago. I went to a recruitment center last December and I told them about my situation. Back then I wasn't a citizen yet and they told me I couldn't apply until I got my citizenship. Now that I got it, is it too late to apply? What should I do next? Should I wait until September? Thank you all for your help,

 

[KerryBlue]

It is too late to apply for this year. Get all your documentation ready so that come August/September you can apply.

 

[Rorschach97]

It is too late to apply for this year. Get all your documentation ready so that come August/September you can apply.

Where could I find these documents?

 

[Rorschach97]

One little detail I forgot to mention, I just finished grade 12 and since I'm waiting until fall to register, I got a whole year off. Any tips on what I should do at the time being?

 

[KerryBlue]

Where could I find these documents?

Just make sure you have your passport, various forms of ID's, highschool transcripts etc. Everything else you will have provided.

In the mean time workout, volunteer, play sports,  perhaps pursue some part time studies. Make yourself as attractive of an applicant as you can.

 

[mariomike]

How long does the recruitment process take?

TIMINGS - ESTIMATED TIMES FOR_______________ 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/81054.0

I live abroad, and It would be great If I could sort out the Aptitude Test, Medical Examination and Fitness Test in two weeks. Would this be possible and when would be the most suitable moment?

Applying from abroad 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/115791.0

Applying out of country 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/112491.0

applying for canadian ROTP in a foreign country?
http://army.ca/forums/threads/101419.0

When to post an application?
http://army.ca/forums/threads/117113.0
"I would love to get my application started as soon as I'm back in Canada"

If I state RMC Kingston as my primary choice, is there a possibility that I would be assigned to Saint Jean-Sur-Richelie?

Questions about ROTP 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/108852/post-1199008.html#msg1199008
Reply #7

I've reviewed the "Pay Scales", and was wondering if the Officer Cadet has to cover accommodation and/or nutrition from the 1.5K "allowance"? Also, during summer training whether it be BMOQ or Second-Language Training, do the Canadian Forces provide the aforementioned accommodation and food or is it in the competence of the Cadet?

ROTP Pay 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/117599.0

I know that my academics are very good; however, is there any other way I could improve? Would a summer job look good during admissions?

What would make me more competitive?
http://army.ca/forums/threads/108629.0
"ANY TIPS ON IMPROVING MY COMPETENCY FOR RMC? K thanks ;D"

Good luck!

 

[Epelix]

Congratulations everyone!

I'm a first year Engineering student and I want to apply for RMC as well for next year. Since I'm starting my university life in the University of British Columbia in the Faculty of Applied Science, my schedule seems to be jammed for school. I was well-rounded the previous year. I was part of Air Cadets as a Sergeant, volunteered in cadets as well as church, was part of the Biathlon Team in my squadron, had a job. It seems doing all these things I've just mentioned seems incredibly difficult now because of university.

For those of you who are transferring from a civilian university to RMC or anyone in general, how did you maintain to be well-rounded?

 

[KerryBlue]

For those of you who are transferring from a civilian university to RMC or anyone in general, how did you maintain to be well-rounded?

Get involved with clubs at your schools. Really simple as most will understand your educational commitments, and will be flexible with your schedule. It'll also be a great way to meet new people and make friends at university. 

 

[Jaradok]

Hey everyone,

So I got partway through an ROTP application this past year, before summer 2015. I wasn't able to finish because the job I applied for was all filled, due to the fact that my application was late (Recruiting centre lost my first, on time, application). I was told that this September I would be able to pick off where I left off at the interview and medical steps. I will be continuing the application during first year at my civ uni and best case scenario am ready for next summer.

How will this work in terms of summer training, since I am a full two months behind in that regard? Will I be able to make up for it in on summer?

Thanks.

 

[jkhan6227]

Going to RMC has been my goal ever since since the age of 15, but due to citizenship processes, I couldn't apply until now (age 21 currently). I'm a completely newbie when it comes to the application processes, and am currently attending civilian university, but only doing so because I could not get my citizenship until a few months ago. I'm looking to apply for RMCC, but I'm really having a lot of trouble applying for it. I wish to start fresh as a first year in royal military college, and do not wish to do the ROTP in a civilian university. I'm planning on applying using my high school mark to enroll in RMC, not university. (I would like to start fresh)

Let me tell you the current steps that I took.I have some questions regarding some of these steps. Help would be greatly appreciated !!

I've created a GCKey account, and after completeting the process, I've gotten an email title named "Message from CAF Online Employment Application" shortly after finishing the process. Am I approaching this correctly? Do I just wait for them to email me back? or should I visit the recruiting centre and apply it there? (I've already visited twice, but they were giving me very vague answers, which made me assume that they don't relaly know the whole process except the part where we have to "apply online". What should I be doing from now? I'm just waiting for the email to get back to me at this very moment, and thats it.


*My average was 84 (my top 6 for OUAC), and I'm very ready physically, as I have been training in MMA, Powerlifting, and just all around love to be active physically.

What am I missing? What should I be doing? The deadline is around end of January from what I've heard, and I would like to get my application in as possible. Help would be greatly appreciated, and I don't mind really long answers either. I just need all the help I can get at this point, This has been my dream ever since childhood (Becoming an officer). Please help me

 

[mariomike]

Please help me

This may help,

I submitted my application. Whats Next???? 
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/118929.0.html
"•  Check up on the status of your application every 30 days with the Recruiting Detachment processing your application."

 

[jkhan6227]

This may help,

I submitted my application. Whats Next???? 
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/118929.0.html
"•  Check up on the status of your application every 30 days with the Recruiting Detachment processing your application."

So I'm guessing creating the GCKey account is basically the submittion of application itself right? Am I understanding this correctly? The link you mentioned says they will respond in 4-5 business days with instructions for me to follow. So am I taking the right approach?

 

[mariomike]

So I'm guessing creating the GCKey account is basically the submittion of application itself right? Am I understanding this correctly?

Lots of info on the GC Key,
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+GC+Key&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=nF4cVqSjNqXU8ge4h5mQBg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+%22GC+Key%22

The link you mentioned says they will respond in 4-5 business days with instructions for me to follow. So am I taking the right approach?

Where does it say, "4-5 business days"?

It reads,
"You should receive an email within 5-7 business days after the submission of your online application, giving you further direction on the next steps to take in the application process."

I've created a GCKey account, and after completeting the process, I've gotten an email title named "Message from CAF Online Employment Application" shortly after finishing the process.

It sounds like you received the e-mail.

The link and quote are from Recruiting. As always, best to contact them.

You can also "Ask a CAF Recruiter" on this site:
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/board,135.0.html

It looks like you started this thread less than one hour after joining the site. Have you taken the time to check any Recruiting discussions? You may find these of interest,

General Questions regarding your application 
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/107882.0.html
31 pages.

Royal Military College of Canada (RMC)
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/23377.0.html
17 pages.

 

[checkmate_ca]

It depends on how fast your file gets process. You might get enrolled in time for this coming summer's BMOQ or you might have to just wait till next summer. So your training should look like this if you are in the army:

Summer # 1 - BMOQ
Summer # 2 - BMOQ - Land
Summer # 3-  Phase 3

Then phase 4 when you graduate. If you don't fail any of your summer training and graduate university in four year then you shouldn't fall behind too much. You should still get your Lieutenant roughly the same time as someone that enrolled a year before you. This scenario is assuming that you do ROTP Civi University and starting your second year in Sep 2016.

 

[DAA]

It depends on how fast your file gets process. You might get enrolled in time for this coming summer's BMOQ or you might have to just wait till next summer. So your training should look like this if you are in the army:

Summer # 1 - BMOQ - ROTP Part 1
Summer # 2 - BMOQ - ROTP Part 2
Summer # 3 - BMOQ - Land
Summer # 4-  Phase 3

Then phase 4 when you graduate. If you don't fail any of your summer training and graduate university in four year then you shouldn't fall behind too much. You should still get your Lieutenant roughly the same time as someone that enrolled a year before you. This scenario is assuming that you do ROTP Civi University and starting your second year in Sep 2016.

Fixed your ROTP Training scenario time lines for you.     

 

[checkmate_ca]

Thanks for the correction. I have attached a PDF that shows you the training path for BMOQ.

 

[Jaradok]

Thank you everyone. I just wanted to be sure of how it would work, since it's a little different than straight out of high school. I'm almost done the application process now so soon it will be back to waiting on what will happen next. Hopefully I'll be able to continue 2nd year at my current civvy university and go from there.