Replacing the Subs

[Colin Parkinson]

RCN Submarine Branch was originally stood up in early August of 1914 with HMCS CC-1 and CC-2, went to Halifax in 1917 and did not leave until they were scrapped in 1920.

HMCS CH14 and CH15 were transferred to the RCN in Feb of 1919, they laid unused until April of 1920. They weren't really operational until 1922 when they were immediately placed in reserve until scrapped in 1927.

Submarine Branch was disbanded until 1945 when the RCN got HMCS U-190 until 1947 when she was scuttled. HMCS U-889 was only under RCN control for a few months before being given to the USN.

The service was disbanded again until the RCN got the former USS Burrfish (renamed HMCS Grilse) on loan from the USN from 1961 - 1969. USS Argonaut (HMCS Rainbow) would replace Burrfish from 1968 - 1974 when she was decommissioned because of a lack of funds.

The RCN got Ojibwa, Onondaga and Okanagan in 1965, with the following two in 1967 and 1968 respectively. They were decommissioned in the late 1990's and replaced by the Upholders.

During a refit, one of the captains examined the ballast tanks and discovered rags and other debris that had clogged the strainers and led to some wild buoyancy issues. Once that was fixed, they behaved much better.

 

[suffolkowner]

If we're going to stick with diesel/ electric, would they be able to leave Halifax, go up to the Arctic, do a prolonged patrol (a month?) and return without using a milchkuh or a surface supply ship?

i feel like that sounds like was in the RFI but i need to download it again

 

[GR66]

i feel like that sounds like was in the RFI but i need to download it again

See the highlights of the RFI specs as posted by @Rainbow1910 previously (here)

 

[Halifax Tar]

If we're going to stick with diesel/ electric, would they be able to leave Halifax, go up to the Arctic, do a prolonged patrol (a month?) and return without using a milchkuh or a surface supply ship?

According to this website the Vics can stay at sea for 45 days.

Victoria-class capability - Canada.ca

Conventional diesel-electric submarines – like the Victoria-class – with stealth capabilities, increased manoeuverability, and extremely quiet electric propulsion systems, have advantages in certain scenarios over their nuclear counterparts.

www.canada.ca

I would say that's fair for DE. That, I imagine, would really test the crew as well. I did 37 days at sea on a Frigate and things got squirrely then, I cant imagine 45 days in a pop can.

Having said that, transit to and from the Artic need to be calculated into those 45 days. It would be ideal to have some form of surface and subsurface service support facilities up there though.

 

[NavyShooter]

31 days straight on a Steamer (Gat) - that was an interesting trip.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

According to this website the Vics can stay at sea for 45 days.

Victoria-class capability - Canada.ca

Conventional diesel-electric submarines – like the Victoria-class – with stealth capabilities, increased manoeuverability, and extremely quiet electric propulsion systems, have advantages in certain scenarios over their nuclear counterparts.

www.canada.ca

I would say that's fair for DE. That, I imagine, would really test the crew as well. I did 37 days at sea on a Frigate and things got squirrely then, I cant imagine 45 days in a pop can.

Having said that, transit to and from the Artic need to be calculated into those 45 days. It would be ideal to have some form of surface and subsurface service support facilities up there though.

Dutch Harbour

 

[deepblue202]

Here is a google map view of the area:

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