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Not sure about Narvik, but the history of The RCR has a reference to the PPCLI and the LER being briefed as part of a the followup force going into Trondheim, but the initial landings were botched.
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Right you are Mike O: the PPCLI were in Scotland ready to embark, but the op was called off. I used the term "Narvik" because that term is sometimes used to describe the entire campaign in North Norway. When we were on AMF(L) in 1992(?) we did a battlefield tour of the operations in the vicinity of Bardufoss-Narvik: very interesting. Cheers.
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Bill Smy said:
The first recorded use of a motorcycle for military message delivery occurred on 21 June 1913 when the General Officer Commanding, 2nd Division wrote to the Secretary Militia Council that Private T. Dawley, 44th Regiment (Lincoln and Welland), had been selected to serve as an orderly at Niagara-On-The-Lake Camp Headquarters:
"for the reason that he brought to the camp with him his motorcycle. He rendered very efficient service, and did work which would have taken two mounted (cavalry) orderlies to perform.
I therefore recommend that authority be granted for him to be paid the sum of $1.25 per diem (which is the rate of horse allowance) to recompense him for the use of his motorcycle in the public service.
Repairs to the amount of $4.50 for piston and compensating rings, stand and frame stud, and time fitting were necessary. I recommend that this sum also be paid"
Private Dawley received a total of $17.00.
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What drink related to a motorcycle was invented in WW1?
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Drum roll please....and the answer is "SIDECAR"!
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Ledgand has it that it was first made by a Junior Canadian Staff Officer and his driver taking cover in a bar. It was made with what was on hand. Staff Officers in WW1 were mostly transported about in motorcycle sidecars, hence the name.
"Ingedients and Proportions are very important with this drink. Cointreau and fresh squeezed lemon juice are crtical to the Quality of the final product. Add the Brandy, Cointreau, and lemon juice to a shaker with ice, shake well, and strain into a well chilled cocktail glass. You can also wet the rim of the glass with the wedge of lemon, then coat the rim with sugar. Garnish with a twist of lemon peel."
"Ingedients and Proportions are very important with this drink. Cointreau and fresh squeezed lemon juice are crtical to the Quality of the final product. Add the Brandy, Cointreau, and lemon juice to a shaker with ice, shake well, and strain into a well chilled cocktail glass. You can also wet the rim of the glass with the wedge of lemon, then coat the rim with sugar. Garnish with a twist of lemon peel."
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When I was a young lad before WW II a chum of mine's Father used to regale us with exploits of daring do with his motor cycle during the Boer War. Maybe the operative word is Recorded or maybe it was just an old soldier's BS.
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Art,
A search of the rootsweb turned this up:
a. The first successful motorized bicycle was built in France 1901, and
British and US manufacturers first produced motorbikes in1903. So motor
cycles could not have been used on operations during the Second Boer War of
1899 - 1902.
c. The British Army had made some experiments with bicycles but they were
not successful in South Africa. The horse was the main means of transport,
including the carriage of messages and despatches.
Also this:
Bike riders in the Boer war.
Both sides used bike riders in very small numbers -- There is some good
background on a it
Military History Journal - Vol 4 No 1
BICYCLES IN THE ANGLO-BOER WAR OF 1899-1902
by D.R. Maree @ http://rapidttp.com/milhist/vol041dm.html
A search of the rootsweb turned this up:
a. The first successful motorized bicycle was built in France 1901, and
British and US manufacturers first produced motorbikes in1903. So motor
cycles could not have been used on operations during the Second Boer War of
1899 - 1902.
c. The British Army had made some experiments with bicycles but they were
not successful in South Africa. The horse was the main means of transport,
including the carriage of messages and despatches.
Also this:
Bike riders in the Boer war.
Both sides used bike riders in very small numbers -- There is some good
background on a it
Military History Journal - Vol 4 No 1
BICYCLES IN THE ANGLO-BOER WAR OF 1899-1902
by D.R. Maree @ http://rapidttp.com/milhist/vol041dm.html
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Here's a interesting one, Who said the following ?
"...of course the people don't want war.... But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship ...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"
"...of course the people don't want war.... But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship ...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"
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