- Reaction score
- 6,302
- Points
- 1,360
That didn't answer the compliment question though, since neither is commissioned, yet Mr O'Leary has stated unless the CO orders it thus.
SeanNewman said:Wrong.
In the same instance, a Sgt may fill the spot of pl comd if he has completed his Infantry 6Bs, where he is tested and qualified as an able pl comd.
GO!!! said:Not to play devils advocate too much - but if any good Sgt can do an officers job - why do we need officers at all?
Scott937 said:I don't remember the phase 3 Inf Regular guys getting badged until after phase 4, prior to 2001. They may have known where they were going, but then again I can't speak on anything prior to 1993 or after 2000.
pbi said:I did all four phases (incl BOTC Chilliwack) between Sep 1982 and Aug 1983. At the end of Phase IV we OCTP, OCTP(M) , DEO and CFR guys were assigned and badged
Sailing Instructor said:I always based my ettiquete off the drill manual, which doesn't even mention officer cadets, but does say that besides the queen &al. commissioned officers are the only ones to be saluted.
At my sea cadet unit, we teach the cadets to salute ncdts, but I always hated it, only receiving the salute when my DCPO reported to me on parade. (I'm an awful stickler & will march with my arms breast-pocket high until I finish BOTP.)
But now I learn there is a precedent for saluting ocdts at other places. All I ask is why can't they just be treated as are sgts-maj or CPOs: with respect but no salute?
How about this: as we can salute civilians, can an officer not to salute NCM reservists who are off duty (& are therefore civilians)? I rather think we ought not to.
When a CO orders 'salute ocdts' which is contrary to the drill manual, is there a conflict? The manual is an order isn't it?
Sailing Instructor said:I always based my ettiquete off the drill manual, which doesn't even mention officer cadets, but does say that besides the queen &al. commissioned officers are the only ones to be saluted.
At my sea cadet unit, we teach the cadets to salute ncdts, but I always hated it, only receiving the salute when my DCPO reported to me on parade. (I'm an awful stickler & will march with my arms breast-pocket high until I finish BOTP.)
But now I learn there is a precedent for saluting ocdts at other places. All I ask is why can't they just be treated as are sgts-maj or CPOs: with respect but no salute?
How about this: as we can salute civilians, can an officer not to salute NCM reservists who are off duty (& are therefore civilians)? I rather think we ought not to.
When a CO orders 'salute ocdts' which is contrary to the drill manual, is there a conflict? The manual is an order isn't it?
Disenchantedsailor said:Hate beating a dead thread but need to point out a wee bit of clarification here,
the CF Manual states that all NCMS shall pay compliments to ALL OFFICERS (not it does not say anything about commision)
3. In Canada, military compliments are only paid to the Sovereign; the Governor General; members of the Royal Family; recognized foreign royalty; foreign heads of state or government; the Prime Minister; the Minister and Associate Minister of National Defence; lieutenant-governors; and commissioned officers.
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10. Non-commissioned members shall salute all commissioned officers.
Disenchantedsailor said:quick question here,
exaclty how does an Ocdt address a MWO/CWO, I would think not as Sir as NCM's are required but by rank and name then? (or Mr in the case of a CWO) as for the Navy types its easy Chief is the accepted form from below and above.
Gunner said:OCdt's don't refer to MWOs/CWOs as Sir. Generally it would be by their position (CSM/RSM) or by their rank.
Nfld Sapper said:Thx Gunner I wasn't too sure but I thought Sir would be acceptable.