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I tell you, recieved my first compliments today, it felt kinda wierd
IN HOC SIGNO said:When I arrived in my section last year my predecessor (a LCDR) had constantly referred to the FAdmO (a CDR) as Mark. I found that all the Lt(N)s were doing the same, of course. I stopped one of them in a meeting one day and said "excuse me who is it you are referring to as Mark?" "Oh you know the FAdmO"....I said "I think you are referring to COMMANDER Watson." It was too subtle for them so I had to put out a TM the next day to the section to inform them of the military protocol and that I did not expect to ever hear them referring to senior officers or NCOs in our meetings again in any other than military terms...
Rowshambow said:One thing that I personally hate is when you salute an officer and they say "Thank you"! You do not need to thank me, it's part of my job to salute, so say something like good day or morning, afternoon whatever just don't thank me for doing my job!
SupersonicMax said:I personnally don't see what's wrong with this. There is a way to be polite and call people by their first name. It just makes the atmosphere more relaxed and makes people more comfortable... Now, in an operationnal situation that might be different.
Max
I have to agree with Bruce here, and I was a wee killick but a few days ago, and while I do see a place where given names can de used in a non detrimental manner it is not for a group setting. and it does make officers uncomfortable especially in a group setting, they don't want to look like a D#%& for correcting you in a group but they also don't want to lose face with thier superiors for allowing it to continue.Bruce Monkhouse said:Being the low man on the totem pole you might find it makes things more comfortable for you, but I can assure you that not all those in between you and the highest rank are comfortable.[ and he/she is probably hoping someone closer to your 'level' would say something]
MedTech said:I have always been taught since day one of being in Cadets, and day one on BMQ to never address anyone by their firstnames. I have thus never been comfortable in doing so. I see no problems in doing so out side of the uniform, and outside of work settings, but I have to agree with kincanucks in that there should be minimal to no addressing people by their first names. That being said, there are times where first names are appropriate. ie. when you are comforting a peer, subordinate when a tragedy happens. Other then that, first names are a no no.
MedTech said:nope I agree with you ;D
recceguy said:Why are we still discussing this?? :
Roy Harding said:As I with you - my post was meant to support your stated position - if you took it otherwise, I apologize.
ArtyNewbie said:your BMQ instructors were wrong,
exactly how can you expect to sit in a shell scrape with someone if you don't even know their first name (know your subordinates as you know yourself - principles of leadership stuff) not saying we should replace the method we address each other but for a bunch of Pte's not to know each other is just p#$% poor leadership on the part of your instructor.