Previous drug use question 2002 - 2018 [Merged]

[Jarnhamar]

SO IT APPEARS AGAIN.........that we have yet another type of scare tactic

You know what buddy, you got us. Theres nothing wrong with drugs, go rob a store for some money (because comming crimes are ok) and get as high as possible.

NBK. That was a pretty well thought out post. Your pretty smart for being retarded
I disagree with your opinion  but I actually wish I could i put to words my thoughts half as well as you can.

I can't argue you point for point, anyone with half a brain can pretty much justify anything. It's easy when your smart. I've seen a webpage that tries to justify the theory that the holocaust never happened and to be honest, it was a hell of an argument. Obviously I know it did happen but just how the author worded it, used fatcs and asked the reader questions, i gotta say he made one hell of an argument.

You make references about your life experiences. I'm not going to make this personal but is 19 or even 25 long enough to have a huge well of life experience?  I don't think so but to each their own.
you guys are arguing here with medics, guys with 20 years life experience on you and it looks like someone who deals with the after math of drugs every day.  I don't thinky ou have any legs to stand on.


This is the bottom line as i see it.
People interested in recruiting to the canadian forces and have questions about drugs can;
-take the advice of civilians trying to get in OR they can take the advice of actual serving members.
-take the advice of older men and women with "life experience" or teen-agers with "life experience".

 

[badapple]

whoever said this thread is going nowhere is right,

one person is claiming acid changes your DNA, which is downright retarded,

another person is saying, come hang out with me, which im assuming they work in some sort of prison, hospital or institute, where there is all kinds of messed up people.   Hello, lets go to the local prision, i can show you the armed robbers and murderers who have "proven" that guns are bad.   Just because some people screw up to the extreme level, shouldn't mean everyone is labeled an "addict" and have a stigma of the type "your turn is coming, your just lucky you're not addicted yet".

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Alright Badfruit, who are you then Mr. empty profile. No age, no life experience, nothing.

So tell me, where the @#$% did you get so smart and if your not willing to provide that then sit back and shut up.
Yes I work in a prison and my name and what I've done is there for the viewing, ....
.....and you?

 

[Jarnhamar]

I'm willing to take a bet that most of those armed robbers and murderers in prison have been involved with drugs.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

...and you would be a winner!!!

 

[spenco]

NBK, I'm going to say what everyone else (save badapple) has been thinking and saying, but in a much more simple fashion so that perhaps you will understand; You are full of shit!   Please do not join the CF.

 

[Infanteer]

...this thread past its expiry date many days ago.   NBK, badapple; there is a reason that the CF enforces its drug policy and the professionals here who serve under these policies understand and support it for a variety of reasons.   Go somewhere else if you wish to debate the merits of drug abuse.

And if you DO wish to argue such matters here (for the sake of consuming more of our time) please, all members, refrain from reducing the thread to a "you are a retard..." pissing match.

 

[Piccillo]

I just got back from my Testing at 55 bay street north. in hamilton ontario. I was applying to join the Argyll and Suthrn Highlanders of Canada (ASH of C)

The Aptitude went perfect, I think I did pretty well. I got 2 pages of things I can be.

Then the interview. this is where my problems rose. I dont like to lie, about anything for any reason. so when he asked me what drugs I have tried, I was totally honest. There were 2 That I had done. One was fine since it was long enough ago. but the other was not.

Magic Mushrooms require a 3 year period after which You can join the armed forces. It has only been one year. But here is my problem. I have done one shroom, once. I even spat it out because it tasted so horrible.

Yet I stood in the rain, dreams crushed as I waited for my ride home letting my thoughts run wild.

I asked one of my friends online who is also in the Argylls what I should do. He dosent know aside from wait the 2 more years. which I dont want to do. He then recommended I come here and ask the good people on the Army.ca forums.

Most of you will reply with one of 2 answers "Dont Do Drugs" or "Wait the 2 years" well, to answer both..

I dont do drugs anymore, I have been drug free for 6 months, and I dont plan on ever doing any again. My life is to important ^_^. And I would wait the 2 years, but In 2 years my life will be going where I want it to. I want the army to be a part of that and I dont think i will be able to just squeeze it in, in 2 years. I want to grow my life around my involvment in the army (which i had hoped to be going fulltime in 2 years)

So does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do. The ONLY reason I was rejected, was a Shroom that ended up on the floor and I never even did. I did not have time to explaine this to my interviewer as I was promptly escorted out the door.

Feedback is greatly apriciated.

 

[Torlyn]

This is a killer...  The reason they want the three years is to ensure that you wont A: relaspe, and start taking again (I know this doesn't apply to you) and B: to ensure that the hallucinigenics will not still be in system.  To be honest, count yourself lucky it's only 2 years.  Mushrooms, LSD et al leave chemicals in your spinal column that stay there for life, and can resurface at any time.  Honestly was the best policy...  Have you tried calling the recruiters?  Problem is, if you try and do an end around on your interview, you'll be labelled an "administrative burden" and you'll never get in...  Again, check with your recruiters, but I think you're SOL.  Sorry, and I know it sucks, but 2 years isn't that long of a time, if you were intending to make the CF a career.

B.N.S.

 

[Piccillo]

I am seriously thinking i should have lied about my shroom experiance.

In my life i have done 2 types of drugs..pot (2-3 times a month for 4 months) and shrooms (once, and i spat it out cuz it tasted like shit)

the pot was waved, even thou i stoped 4 months ago, and the requiered time is 6, he waved it. i was so thankfull

but the mushrooms, even thou in the end of the experiance i hadnt digested it (which is how it affects you) i was rejected. since it was only this morning i was rejected i am still steamed about it, and trying to find another way to join the army

 

[Piccillo]

I was intening to make CF a carreer if it was an option. I want things in my life by time im 20, this includes a fulltime job (was gonna be the army) and a place of my own. this can no longer happen as in 2 years, If i do decide to try once again to join the army, i will be just that...just joining. meaning no fulltime job. and no place of my own, my goals i strived to achive are gone.

The chemicals never actually entered my body, as I did spit the shroom out (if you have ever tasted these things you will understand..they taste so bad..) so therefore the chemical cannot still be in my spinal fluid, as it wasnt never there.

I might call the recruitment center, but i dont wanna go about this the wrong way. I was just down there and such, how am i going to explain myself? "Hi, I was rejected for a bullshit reason, test me again" I dont think that will blow over well.

It WAS 9 months ago, It WAS one shroom, and it WAS on the floor at the end of the day. So technically I never even did shrooms. I wasnt thinking clearly i guess when he asked me. I should have made it more clear on just what extent i had actually "tried" them. Im an idiot :| now its all about correcting my mistake. I cannot go back 9 months ago and not take the shroom. But calling the recruitment center....that might be an idea. But how am i supposed to explain myself? What do i say so i dont look like a fool?

 

[Righty]

It WAS 9 months ago, It WAS one shroom, and it WAS on the floor at the end of the day

Well this is NOW and your going to have to live with it NOW for what you did and what you said. So take it like a man and wait your two years. Cause if you try to explain yourself now there going to think your lieing...

 

[Piccillo]

Same here sorta.

Before my interview, but after the CFAT me and the rest of the group were sitting in the waiting room, and one at a time a few of us were pulled aisde and into an office...3 of us (including myself) the other 2 picked up there gear and went home. when the man was talking to me he said "you have done pot recently (4 months ago) but it was only for a short time, so we are going to wave it" im like..thank GOD and sat back down with the other guys

then i was interviewed, and when he gave me a sheat of drugs (i never seen so many drugs...) and ask which i have done, i carfully went threw the list, said "marajuana, and Magic Mushrooms once" he said "you never said MM on your form" im like...well yea i did it once and didnt think it would matter, but i think its a good idea to tell you anyway. even thou it was once about a year ago.

at that time he stood up, walked me to the door and said "come back in 2 years"

and here i sit...waiting...

 

[Piccillo]

>_< i done the waiting 2 years thing thou!! (when i was 16, my parents wouldnt sign for it, so i had to wait till i was 18 [now]) and its not enjoyable!! i workout and train like crazy, i do everything i can..and i get shut down again and told to wait agian. its so frustrating, i mean..im PERFECT for the army life. i did shrooms once, but alot of people have done alot worse and managed to join the armed forces just fine im sure.  GAH these next 2 years is gonna be hell...

 

[Torlyn]

You've got two years.  GEt a technical diploma in something, or start a degree, that way when you do join up in two years, you'll have more to offer the CF, and will (most likely) receive a more rewarding posting.  18 is still young.  I know many of us in the recruiting section that are just applying now are mid- to late 20's...  You've got time.  I know it probably doesn't feel like that right now, but stay the course, and you'll get there.  Hate to sound like my father, but patience is a virtue.  All good things come to those who wait.  Good luck.

B.N.S.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Piece of advice Piccillo .... you are a very young man, and you have time to recover from this setback. Go to college and make yourself more desirable for the CF, this will help you immensely when you re-apply. Take electrical intrumentation or a similar diploma, and try and get into a co-op program. The work experience will demonstrate maturity and the diploma enhances your credibility because it will prove you have the capacity and discipline to learn.  And stay the %$^%$ off drugs and out of trouble.

 

[ModlrMike]

Not to sound mean but you've just learned the most valuable lesson there is. Everything has a cost. In this case, your dalliance with mushrooms cost you 2 years. Follow the advice to get a technical diploma, stay clean, and apply again.

 

[commando_wolf63]

When Recruiting gives you that list read thru it carefully...When I was given the list to read of what drug's I may/may not have done I glanced thru the list and said I haven't done any drugs  I was told to look thru it closely  listed was alcohol which then I had said yes

 

[Torlyn]

"theres so many strong applicants with no past drug history"

Seems to me most of the people enquiring about joining have done drugs in the past, according to the posts anyways.

The ones that are asking about applying...  Wonder if they've actually applied? 

B.N.S.

 

[Piccillo]

Makes sence. Never thought of it as time to get a degree. Since im no longer in school i need to wait 2 years to get my GED first...o.o

well, I had a nice shower, and I have decided to wait the 2 years. You all were a really great help. Ima use this time to get in better shape, and to Find some way to get a Degree or sumthing of that sort. thanks alot!