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jollyjacktar said:
Where's jmt18325 when you need him? :whistle:

I'm right here - pretty sure that ( A ) we're talking about very different systems (multiple parties vs two) and ( B ) that Trudeau and Trump are in very different points in their governing cycles.

Trudeau's is normal:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-trudeau-approval-history-1.3950007

Trump's isn't:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/donald-trump-lowest-approval-ratings-us-president-100-days-44-per-cent-cnn-poll-a7705611.html
 
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/true-north/2017/jun/12/justin-trudeau-deploys-the-politics-of-hype-jeremy-corbyn-offers-politics-of-hope?CMP=share_btn_tw

Justin Trudeau deploys the politics of hype. Jeremy Corbyn offers politics of hope @Martin_Lukacs - Monday 12 June 2017

Canada’s PM is a counterfeit progressive who champions war-planes, pipelines and privatization - look across the pond for economic and environmental justice

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has cynically continued many of his Conservative predecessor’s policies, while UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn now stands within reach of government with a redistributive agenda.

Their depiction in the international media couldn’t be more different.

You know Justin Trudeau from the Buzzfeed photo-spread or the BBC viral video: the feminist Prime Minister of Canada who hugs refugees, pandas, and his yoga-mat. He looks like he canoed straight from the lake to the stage of the nearest TED Talk — an inclusive, nature-loving do-gooder who must assuredly be loved by his people.

Then there’s what the columns of trans-Atlantic punditry told you about Jeremy Corbyn: the rumpled, charmless leader of UK’s Labour party whose supporters are fringe lunatics and his stances out-of-date utopianism. If he dared run an election with his political program, he would just as assuredly be rejected by the electorate.

But last week Corbyn pulled off the biggest political upset in modern British history. The Labour party, rather than undergoing a widely-advertised demise, is within striking distance of forming government. Millions, it turns out, are ready to embrace radical policies that take on vested interests, put services back into public hands, and spend massively on education, clean energy and healthcare.

Now that Corbyn has upended the rules that govern electoral life in the west, it will help us see Trudeau in proper perspective: as a smooth-talking centrist who has put the most coiffed gloss yet on the bankrupt and besieged neoliberalism of the age.

Trudeau’s coronation as a champion of everything fair and decent, after all, has much to do with shrewd and calculated public relations. I call it the Trudeau two-step.

First, he makes a sweeping proclamation pitched abroad — a bold pledge to tackle austerity or climate change, or to assure the rights of refugees or Indigenous peoples. The fawning international coverage bolsters his domestic credibility.

What follows next are not policies to ambitiously fulfill these pledges: it is ploys to quietly evacuate them of any meaning. The success of this maneuver – as well as its sheer cynicism – has been astonishing.

In this manner, Trudeau has basically continued, and in some cases exceeded, the economic agenda of Conservative Stephen Harper: approved mega fossil fuel projects, sought parliamentary power grabs, cut-back healthcare funding and attacked public pensions, kept up the dispossession of Indigenous peoples, undermined the prospect of universal childcare, maintained tax loopholes for the richest, and detained and deported thousands of migrants.

Out of breath? He has also broken an electoral reform promise, initiated a privatization scheme that is a massive corporate handout, left un-repealed a Tory political spy bill, launched air strikes in Iraq and Syria despite pledging a withdrawal, and inked the largest-ever weapons deal with the brutal, misogynistic Saudi Arabian regime.

Not exactly what those who voted for “real change” were expecting? Before you answer, here’s something titillating to distract and disarm you: Justin and Barack Obama rekindling their progressive bromance at an uber-cool Montreal diner. Jeremy Corbyn has shown us the meaning of a politics of genuine hope: what Trudeau has deployed has only ever been a politics of hype.

Trudeau’s latest progressive posturing is over foreign policy. Last week his government announced, to wide-spread acclaim, a brave course for their military that is independent of the reviled US administration. Except they will boost wasteful military spending by more than $60bn, a shocking seventy percent budgetary increase, and are already entertaining new NATO missions — exactly as Donald Trump has demanded. The doublespeak seems to have escaped the naval-gazing pundits: this is utter deference masquerading as defiance.

Jeremy Corbyn has shown what real courage looks like: he called for Trump’s visit to the UK to be canceled; and he has been a consistent critic of the UK’s disastrous, illegal wars of intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya — many of which Canada directly participated in and Trudeau supported.

In the aftermath of the recent terrorist attacks in London, Corbyn dared to connect foreign wars to the inevitable blowback on civilians at home. Such truths are considered heresies as much in the political and media bubble on Ottawa’s Parliament Hill as in London’s Westminster. They are common sense to majorities in both countries.

But the gap between Justin and Jeremy, between symbolism and substance, is perhaps greatest on the environmental front. Labour’s platform laid out an industrial revolution that matches the scale of the climate crisis: an investment of £250bn over ten years to create renewable energy and green jobs, insulate millions of homes, and lower energy bills as well as carbon emissions. The energy system would be pried back from private vultures to public, decentralized control. Fracking would be banned. Trudeau’s method, on the other hand, has been to style himself a proud climate champion, while brazenly selling Canada’s enormous deposits of oil and gas to any willing buyer.

Justin Trudeau is a counterfeit, while Jeremy Corbyn is the progressive. Their way of doing politics is the difference between real change™ and transformation: not an empty spectacle orchestrated by elite technocrats beholden to bankers and oil barons, but an electoral program, pushed for and shaped by a mass movement, that would concretely improve the lives of millions of people.

The election of Trudeau, despite the illusory facade, shows that in Canada as much as in the UK there is a huge appetite for a genuinely activist government. Just as young people in droves voted for Bernie Sanders and Corbyn, they turned to Trudeau. As his shin wears off, they should not merely be disappointed or angry: they should be fighting for a real, radical alternative.

In Canada, the closest parallel to Corbyn’s positive program, as well as its media vilification, has been the Leap Manifesto. Canada’s elite opinion-makers wheezed that this broad coalition’s agenda – public ownership of key sectors, taxing corporations and the wealthy, and respecting Indigenous rights as a way to combat climate change - was electoral hemlock, beyond the shade of reasonable opinion. Polls showed the opposite: that a majority of people support it. Now Corbyn’s success proves beyond a doubt that, in these volatile political times, it can form the basis for a winning electoral program.

For that to happen, this political vision will have to be accompanied by face-to-face grassroots organizing on a massive scale, which is what propelled Corbyn to PM-in-waiting. Whether that’s the Leap’s new organizing initiatives, the New Democratic Party drawing bold lessons from its UK cousin, or a flowering of campaigns like the successful fight for a $15 minimum wage, the broader left must seize the moment: it must activate and connect and embolden, as the movement has in England, tens of thousands of people.

Nothing else will fully and truly puncture Trudeau’s progressive image. Even if the international press never catches on, people in Canada are surely ready.
 
If the Guardian is the best cheering squad Corbyn can afford, he needs to take out a loan.  Having the two old guys from the Muppet Show harrumphing from the wings about how Corbyn is nothing short of brilliant if not rather plain, is pretty much Tier 2 stuff...if not a solid Tier 3 performance...

I gotta say, this piece actually makes me appreciate a little more than I did, what Team Red(-ish) is working on for a plan. :nod:

Regards
G2G
 
At least they got it right about Trudeau being a counterfeit.  They did fail to mention the real reason the youth voted for comrade Corbyn was because they're remoaners and hope to turn back Brexit.
 
I think the Martin Lukacs' piece for the Guardian makes the case that Trudeau much more centrist than many believe; he's much like Emmanuel Macron. It makes sense too; apparently the Liberal Party is moderate compared to NDP. I don't think anyone outside of Canada really thought Trudeau was the 'champion of progressive;' perhaps that was the reason why that opinion piece appeared in the Guardian--to demonstrate to progressive Europeans that Trudeau isn't the progressive they conceived him to be.
 
Does he intentionally go out of his way to do this?

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World Views
Justin Trudeau took part in Toronto Pride while wearing socks that say ‘Eid Mubarak’

The Washington Post
By Adam Taylor
June 26 at 8:27 AM

Canada's Justin Trudeau took part in Toronto's Gay Pride parade, with the prime minister's official photographer Adam Scotti there to mark only the second time that a Canadian leader has marched in the country's largest LGBT event.

One photograph by Scotti — shared widely on social media — shows Trudeau couching down to high-five a young girl dressed as Wonder Woman and holding a rainbow flag. As many quickly noted, Trudeau had got into the sartorial spirit, too — by wearing a pair of multicolored socks.

Trudeau's unusual choices in foot attire have already been celebrated. (He wore socks adorned with “Star Wars” characters while meeting his Irish counterpart on May 4). But his Pride socks carried a subtler political message. Text on the socks read “Eid Mubarak,” honoring the religious holiday that marks the end of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting, which coincides with Gay Pride this year.

The socks are made by the Toronto-based Halal Socks. Trudeau had previously pointed to them at an event to mark the end of Ramadan. The message was also apt for Toronto Pride, where this year's theme was inclusivity, with indigenous activists and other minorities playing a prominent part in the parade. According to the Toronto Star newspaper, Trudeau wished the crowd a happy “Pride Mubarak,” recognizing the dueling events taking place that weekend.

Trudeau, a member of the Liberal Party, has pushed themes of tolerance and multiculturalism since becoming prime minister in November 2015, publicly embracing issues such as Syrian refugees while other world leaders shied away from him.

While Trudeau was largely praised for his socks on social media, some on the right criticized him and noted that in many Muslim-majority countries LGBT people can face persecution. Even some liberal-leaning supporters voiced criticism, arguing that it was another social media savvy-stunt from a leader whose policies haven't lived up to the hype.

The Canadian prime minister is now half way through his term and has recently suffered a dip in his approval ratings, though Trudeau's numbers remain relatively high compared to his similar polls other leaders, including President Trump.

I guess so.

More from the Washington Post on LINK
 
Love it.  If Harper, blessed be his name, ever wore eid socks the left would be screaming murder and rage that he was disrespecting Islam since he has the socks on his feet and he's walking all over them.  But it's Justin so obviously respectful.
 
Lex Justitia said:
I think the Martin Lukacs' piece for the Guardian makes the case that Trudeau much more centrist than many believe; he's much like Emmanuel Macron. It makes sense too; apparently the Liberal Party is moderate compared to NDP. I don't think anyone outside of Canada really thought Trudeau was the 'champion of progressive;' perhaps that was the reason why that opinion piece appeared in the Guardian--to demonstrate to progressive Europeans that Trudeau isn't the progressive they conceived him to be.

The definitions of many things vary according to culture, our "Conservatives" would be pretty liberal or at best centrists in the United States, and even the term "Liberal" has a different meaning in British Columbia when compared to the Rest of Canada. So it isn't surprising that Europeans would find our idea of "Progressive" not in accord to their version......
 
Well....He is keeping one industry alive and well........The "outrageous sock" manufacturers.    :-\


[Sorry.....Left out an "r".]
 
George Wallace said:
Well....He is keeping one industry alive and well........The "outrageous sock" manufacturers.    :-\


[Sorry.....Left out an "r".]

You bought some didn't you.

I can't help but wonder how Halal socks are made.
 
George Wallace said:
Grey wool with blue stripe.  [Xp
And the stripes on b-b-b-both feet b-b-b-b-better match.

Oh, wait ...
 
Meh, I could care less about his socks or his hair or his selfies.

I'm more concerned for the way he is making senior appointments (appointing partisans to non-partisan posts) and how he is becoming worse that the CPC was at eroding the democratic process with time allocation and slipping in hidden legislation.

 
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-trudeaus-petulant-tone-deaf-performance-a-remarkable-milestone/wcm/12ac58a7-fcad-4c26-9a99-239d62cb38a2

Andrew Coyne: Trudeau's petulant, tone-deaf performance a remarkable milestone

Until this week I don’t think any of us quite fathomed just how cynical Justin Trudeau could be. That he had broken several important election promises was well known; that his government was every bit as controlling, and as programmed, as its predecessor was every week becoming more apparent.

But Tuesday’s petulant, tone-deaf performance was still a remarkable milestone. As an exercise in executive blame-shifting, it may be without parallel. In the course of a single press conference, the prime minister managed to blame the opposition for his own decisions: to run deficits three times as large as promised for ten times as many years; to launch the Senate on its present collision course with the Commons; and to renege altogether on electoral reform.

The deficit, first. The prime minister may have promised to run deficits of no more than $10 billion for no more than two years, and to return to a balanced budget by the fourth. He may have instead delivered deficits of nearly $30 billion, with no end in sight. He may command a majority government, in a growing economy. But that should not be taken to mean he is somehow responsible for any of what has happened on his fiscal watch. Rather, it is all the Conservatives’ doing.

“If you tally up the promises we made [in the Liberal election platform], it was about $10 billion worth of new spending,” the putative prime minister explained. But — alas! — once elected they found they had been hoodwinked. “We just went from a floor where the budget was balanced, because supposedly the Conservatives had balanced the budget, to what was the reality of our budget of being at about $18 billion in deficit the end of that first year,” he added.

This is admittedly a familiar Liberal refrain, but it doesn’t get any truer with the retelling. That the Conservatives did indeed leave them a balanced budget for 2015-16 is not disputed by any serious analyst. The Liberals were only able to drag the final number into the red by some truly heroic back-dating of their own spending: a surplus of $7.5 billion through the first 11 months of the year became a deficit of — wait for it — $0.9 billion after the twelfth.

It is true that revenues came in less in the following fiscal year than the Tories had projected. But to blame the resulting $23-billion deficit - or the $29-billion deficit in the current fiscal year, or the $27-billion deficit in the next - on this is a stretch, to say the least. Compare: Budget 2015, the Conservatives’ last budget, forecast revenues for fiscal 2017 at $302-billion. Actual figure: $292-billion, a shortfall of $10-billion. Spending, meanwhile, came in at $291-billion, almost $17-billion over the original projection. So let us be clear on what, or who, was responsible for the deficit ballooning as it has.

On the Senate, whose transformation (in its own eyes at least) from a partisan patronage house to one filled with “independent, merit-based” appointees has coincided with a marked increase in belligerence, one that on several occasions has brought it perilously close to vetoing the elected House of Commons, the prime minister again accepted no responsibility. It may have been his decision to kick all of the Liberal senators out of caucus, or to experiment with a new, allegedly non-partisan appointment process. But the fault for whatever followed lay exclusively with the Conservatives.

“The fact that we are stymied a bit by a block of partisan Conservatives who vote against the government every chance they get,” he explained, “simply means there is more work to do to create a more independent and thoughtfully reflective Senate.” You understand, when the Conservative senators vote against the government - 70.5 per cent of the time, according to tabulations by the CBC’s Eric Grenier - they are merely being partisan. But when the prime minister’s own appointees vote with the government 94.5 per cent of the time, why, that just shows how independent and thoughtfully reflective they are.

But the most scandalous part of Trudeau’s performance was his response on why he had broken his promise on electoral reform. To refresh your memory: the Liberals promised the 2015 election would be “the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system.” They did not specify what system they would replace it with. Rather, they would “convene an all-party Parliamentary committee to review a wide variety of reforms,” including ranked ballots and proportional representation.

And, indeed, all through the months of committee hearings that followed the prime minister and his minions professed to be keeping “an open mind” about reform. So how could Trudeau be blamed if, as he now confesses, the whole process was a sham and a fraud: that he had only ever been open to ranked ballots and had no intention of accepting any other proposal? Clearly, it was their fault, like the public’s before them, for believing him. Or at any rate, it was their fault for taking a different view from his.

After all, he said, “I have been consistent and crystal clear from the beginning of my political career” regarding his preference for a ranked ballot, if you don’t count the period from a few months before he was elected to about 15 months after. “Unfortunately, it became very clear that [while] we had a preference to give people a ranked ballot … nobody else agreed.” No, indeed. Not the opposition members of the committee. Not nearly 90 per cent of the experts and others who appeared before it. Not even the Liberal members of the committee.

As Trudeau tells it, while he was fully prepared to accept his own proposal, “there was no openness to compromise in the other parties.” Pity the prime minister: everybody is out of step but him.
 
Good article.

I saw his press conference and frankly it was a bit cringe worthy.  Electoral reform and the Senate issue are problems of his own making.
 
Meanwhile the NDP and Greens in BC intend on voting in non-confidence of the Liberal budget, meaning either we will will have a NDP/Green coalition government or a new election forthwith.
 
Loachman said:
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-trudeaus-petulant-tone-deaf-performance-a-remarkable-milestone/wcm/12ac58a7-fcad-4c26-9a99-239d62cb38a2

Andrew Coyne: Trudeau's petulant, tone-deaf performance a remarkable milestone
The PM is not going into summer on a high note.  I read this and even a similar out of CBC.

A very social Trudeau ducks the accountability of 'elective dictatorship': Andrew MacDougall
Prime minister blames others for campaign promises not kept

Andrew MacDougall
CBC News 
Posted: Jun 29, 2017 5:00 AM ET
Last Updated: Jun 29, 2017 9:36 AM ET


One of the (only) inconveniences of majority government in a Westminster Parliament is having precious few to blame for your misfortunes. There's a reason they call it an "elective dictatorship."

Undaunted, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau elected Tuesday to hide in the opposition's shadow while defending his record at an end-of-session news conference.

The deficit he promised on the campaign trail? Not his fault. His pledge to end the first-past-the-post vote? The opposition — and their minority of votes — made me ditch it.

It was a weak — and bog standard — political display from someone who pledged to play the game of politics differently.

Perhaps knowing he was in for a media barracking for these and other failings, Trudeau opened his news conference by pointing to the fact he was having a news conference (subtext: not like that secretive Stephen Harper), even thanking the media for their work.

Having been a media wrangler for nearly five years, I totally see the value in rubbing the media's belly.

They like it, and it usually works. But judging from the Twitter banter coming from the parliamentary media Tuesday, Trudeau's act is starting to flop.

The banter turns sour

In my experience, what starts as chippy social banter turns into sour copy before hardening into an Ottawa mindset.

The next step is usually the feeling in government that nothing you're doing or saying is registering with the public because the cynics in the media aren't giving you a fair shake.

If you're lucky, or aren't a Conservative, this feeling usually takes a few years to manifest itself. Once it does, the task becomes finding ways of getting "around" the media to deliver your message straight to the people.

This was a fool's errand until the invention of the internet.

Even then, it produced limited returns (hello, 24-7!) as long as the mainstream media was in rude health.

But with the continued and rapid decline of the media — as evidenced by a recent demand for an industry bailout from a media lobby group — the prospect of unfiltered government propaganda is suddenly a very real thing.

It might explain why polls continue to show a deep affection for Trudeau among younger Canadians, who are more likely to get their news from their various social media feeds than a newspaper or broadcast.

Now, there are other factors that could explain it — not least among them the fact that younger Canadians are more likely to favour things like the legalization of marijuana, the serious pursuit of environmental policy and funky socks on the feet of their political leaders — but the breaking of the accountability loop of journalism is certainly a part of it.

Critical media coverage loses its impact if no one reads it.

This is the phenomenon we see in the United States, where a savage media is not yet denting President Donald Trump's core supporters, who don't often visit mainstream news sites.

Tending the garden

As long as Trump keeps tending his partisan flowers with appearances on programs like Fox and Friends —the hint is in the name — he can survive in the White House.

Justin Trudeau tends to his garden, too. A look at his social channels reveals a carefully thought-out program with a fairly wide readership and viewership.

Consider a recent pre-long weekend advertisement for the Canada Child Benefit on Trudeau's Instagram feed.

As taxpayer-funded official photos of Trudeau playing with children flash by, we are shown the text: "More money for 9/10 Canadian families. Tax free."

Lest we have no doubt this is an advertisement, the caption to the montage reads: "It's the long weekend that kicks off the summer — and we're making it easier for your family to get out and enjoy it."

The Trudeau PMO doesn't consider the piece an ad.

Just a 'message piece'

When I put the question to Kate Purchase, Trudeau's director of communications, she replied: "We don't consider something an ad unless it's truly a paid piece — I'd say that unless it's a paid promotion on social media, we would just consider it a message piece."

In other words, it's not an ad if the taxpayer pays to shoot, write and edit it, only if the taxpayer buys ad space for it. No wonder the Liberals put so much effort into expanding the prime minister's audiences on social channels.

The Child Care Benefit "message piece" went to Trudeau's Instagram audience of more than 1.3 million followers and was viewed nearly 200,000 times. It was also seen by his 3.35 million-strong Twitter army.

Those are comparable — or better — numbers than many news outlets. And the Liberals can track who watches and likes the material to ensure other material is later sent their way.

I can't blame the Trudeau PMO for its answer as to whether this is advertising. I used to give much the same answers to journalists when Stephen Harper practised the same tricks. Oh, how the journalists hated our attempts to end-run them.

More tricks, fewer calls

Their criticism never really hurt us. In fact, the more we did it, the fewer journalists who called.

This was in part, I suppose, because quite a few were being laid off, but I could always count on a tough phone call from the no-nonsense and ultra-professional Bruce Cheadle of The Canadian Press, who knew the rules of government advertising better than I did.

And where is Bruce Cheadle now? He's the director of communications to Scott Brison, the federal minister in charge of advertising rules. The paucity of stories on government advertising indicates no one is much interested in his old beat.

A cynic would say the Trudeau Liberals knew exactly what hire to make for the actions they were about to take. Real change, indeed. 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/trudeau-accountability-macdougall-1.4181324
 
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