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Politics in 2016

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Altair said:
I don't run the place, take it up with the powers that be.

I just fail to see how this topic doesn't degenerate into the mess all the other politics threads do and how this isn't locked within a day.

I really didn't think my post would of went on that tangent. I confess I never really followed the political thread on here at all. This thought I have was just something that's been irking me for some time. I am a political junky and I felt I had seen one too many questions being dodged by certain ministers, by blaming the Conservative Government. One as recently as a few days ago.
 
My wife said the honeymoon was over when I walked in and took a dump while she was still in the bathroom.  ;D
 
cupper said:
My wife said the honeymoon was over when I walked in and took a dump while she was still in the bathroom.  ;D

If you waited until after marriage to do that, you are a more patient man than me.
 
George Wallace said:
I heard no such comments about the number of similar Threads about the Government prior to this Liberal Government.  Are you suggesting we change somehow?


Oh PUhleeze, you are in no position to start playing the neutral member of the site.  You are usually in the lead to bash the left, especially Trudeau.

Don't try to make the state of this place in the last couple of years as sitting on the side lines watchng.  More Conservative rhetoric has been spewed on these means, than the bilge poured into the St. Lawerence by Montreal, and you lead the charge on most of them!


 
Liberals have begun doing the things they've criticized the Conservatives for.  Honeymoon will be over in 2 months.
 
Altair said:
I just fail to see how this topic doesn't degenerate into the mess all the other politics threads do and how this isn't locked within a day.
 

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Jarnhamar said:
Liberals have begun doing the things they've criticized the Conservatives for.  Honeymoon will be over in 2 months.

This is true, very few people realize that in the end political stripe matters very little unless the bureaucrats change, or are forced to change. 
 
Jarnhamar said:
Liberals have begun doing the things they've criticized the Conservatives for.  Honeymoon will be over in 2 months.

Depends when the media gets over tweets by Rihanna. It'll be interesting to see the spin when we're $120B further in the hole, and no further ahead with growth and job creation.
 
PuckChaser said:
Depends when the media gets over tweets by Rihanna. It'll be interesting to see the spin when we're $120B further in the hole, and no further ahead with growth and job creation.

Word from Al Jazeera the street is that the Prime Minister will be visiting CFB Petawawa soon. It'll be interesting to see if he ventures beyond the ring of eager subbies and talks to the troops.
 
Jarnhamar said:
Word from Al Jazeera the street is that the Prime Minister will be visiting CFB Petawawa soon. It'll be interesting to see if he ventures beyond the ring of eager subbies and talks to the troops.
I wonder if I'll get charged for asking why people are going to be selected for deployment based on their gender and not professional skills/quals.
 
PuckChaser said:
I wonder if I'll get charged for asking why people are going to be selected for deployment based on their gender and not professional skills/quals.

Wondering about doing something and having the fortitude to do it are two different things. If you had such fortitude to do this, if you ever ran for politics you would have a lot of fans.
 
According to new government policy, I'm a white, protestant, male; I don't have a career anyways. Won't really screw much up if I get demoted, might even open up cooler jobs with less responsibility.
 
PuckChaser said:
I wonder if I'll get charged for asking why people are going to be selected for deployment based on their gender and not professional skills/quals.
 

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Summer is over.  Time to see what fall will bring.
Trudeau should enjoy his popularity while it lasts, because come fall all bets are off
Michael Den Tandt
National Post
15 Sept 2016

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, according to a survey just published by the Angus Reid Institute, is more popular than he’s ever been. He should enjoy this while it lasts. That is to say until Monday, when MPs return to the House of Commons for the fall sitting of Parliament. After that, all bets are off.

It’s been a year, almost, since the Liberal landslide. And though the tone in Ottawa has changed, the bedrock of government policy hasn’t, much, with the notable exception of a law regulating assisted dying. Now comes the time to implement, defer, back off or compromise on the rest of the Liberal platform. Not all of it will get done. Not all of it can get done, given the sweeping ambition of the reforms proposed.

A key measure of Trudeau’s success, therefore, will be how skillfully he manages the coming wave of disappointments. It’s not impossible to succeed in this. Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin pulled off something similar in 1994, prepping the country for deficit-busting pain, which was a far cry from the expansive platform on which they’d campaigned in 1993. But they had the advantage of a national fiscal crisis, forcing their hand. Also, Chrétien never vowed to lasso the moon. Trudeau has.

Consider this partial list:

Electoral reform. The promise, iron-clad, is for a new electoral model before the 2019 election, and an end to first-past-the-post system. The passion displayed for this file by political scientists, reporters and politicians is roughly equal to the shattering lack of interest in it on the part of, well, everyone else. The Liberals have declared no change will occur without popular support. They also doggedly opposed the only credible means of gauging such support, which is a referendum.

Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women: Necessary and overdue. But also fraught with intractable problems, such as: What to do when the weight of testimony points to poverty, shoddy housing, underfunded education, lack of opportunity and the reserve system itself as key contributors to the disproportionate violence suffered by aboriginal people — women, men and children — in Canada? The Liberals have promised to implement all 94 recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. They can’t hope to meet that goal without re-deploying their entire mandate to the purpose, which,of course, they are in no position to do.

Marijuana legalization: With pot task force chair Anne McLellan urging “go-slow,” we can begin to nudge this one toward the “maybe not right away, maybe not ever” basket. Legalizing weed will require a great deal of political and institutional energy, at a time when the government is consumed with more important files.

Defence and military procurement: The government has launched a defence policy review, which we can assume will show, yet again, that the men and women of the Canadian Forces are good at their jobs but underfunded and hamstrung by rust-out in their gear. Surprise! A full report on procurement is due by yearend. Perhaps this will reveal why, with a year of their first mandate nearly gone, the Liberals appear no closer to replacing Canada’s aging CF-18 fighter jets, or floating a new Navy.

•Guided by a nostalgic affection for blue-helmeted UN peacekeeping, the government is poised to send 600 Canadian soldiers to Africa, possibly Mali. This and the current mission in Iraq have the potential to go badly awry in the event of accidents or casualties.

Climate change: “Canada is back!” had already given way to “how on earth do we do this?” by the time Parliament rose in June. There are consultations with the provinces. There is goodwill, for which Trudeau deserves some credit. How any of this translates into a national carbon-pricing system remains a mystery.

Trade and pipelines: The Liberals have until now avoided staking out a clear position on the Trans-Pacific partnership trade agreement, because why bother, if the protectionist wave in the United States stops the deal cold? Yet until the PM’s overture earlier this month to China, little of note had happened bilaterally either. The government now must play catch up to re-start trade talks with countries such as India and Japan, after nearly a year of “consulting Canadians” about the TPP has produced not a visible erg of momentum toward freer trade, with anyone. On progress toward an east-west pipeline, meantime, there is none

This is not, as noted, a recipe for certain failure. But it does call for triage, for which this government has until now shown little appetite, as well as a willingness to break some eggs.

More practically, the Liberals should designate a new internal auditor, a zealot with a calculator, to police ministers’ spending, item by item. Only by avoiding the drip-drip of waste and entitlement stories can the prime minister and cabinet hope to maintain any momentum once they start taking unpopular decisions.

They will fall from the heights. It’s a matter of how much, how quickly, for what reasons, and what they can achieve in the process.
 
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/michael-den-tandt-trudeau-should-enjoy-his-popularity-while-it-lasts-because-come-fall-all-bets-are-off
 
An outlander's view :

Canadian liberal or alien robot? It was difficult to say
He spoke as if programmed using algorithms based on back issues of the Economist
Jeremy Clarke

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/canadian-liberal-or-alien-robot-it-was-difficult-to-say/

Moderators:  I am sorry.  ;D
 
Upon reflection, and knowing what the responses to my posts will be, I have decided that I will no longer post in the politics 2016, or any other year thread.

Hopefully without me posting here it has a chance of remaining civil.

Enjoy.
 
It's one thing if the peanut gallery here say's something anti-Lieberal, but for an outsider like Mr. Clarke to make comment.  Well, if the shoe fits perhaps...
 
I'll just leave this right here:

Trudeau’s top aides billed taxpayers more than $200,000 in moving expenses, according to report

OTTAWA — The Globe and Mail is reporting taxpayers were billed more than $200,000 in moving expenses for two of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s top aides.

A source told the newspaper that Gerald Butts, the prime minister’s principal secretary, and Katie Telford, his chief of staff, were reimbursed for moving their families from Toronto to Ottawa.


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/trudeaus-top-aides-billed-taxpayers-more-than-200000-in-moving-expenses-according-to-report

 
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